QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 16 2008, 09:56 AM)
then you must know that even from before, Mac hardwares are monopolized by Apple right? That explain why it "work out of the box", in the meanwhile, WinTel WinAMD combination got lots of different hardwares and configurations, so who's to blame? If the PC hardware manufacturing are monopolized by Microsoft and Microsoft alone (or Intel alone), I'm sure you will see any version of Windows that "work out of the box" like Mac, just my tiny cent here... eventhough not related...

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It wasn't simply just long winded criticisms previously my friend. I run separate Win Vista Home Premium, Ulti 32 and XP SP3 rigs right here on my home LAN. It's collectively a and still what we can consider as my daily experience of usage. All rigs here are with between 5-15 default Windows Services killed off and several other tweaks just to match each' work ability. When we're talking milestones, one doesn't have to be an old school geek all the way from Win 3.1 or DOS even. Start off from Win 95 and you can really tell which milestone has succeeded or failed for short or long terms. Of course I still consider in comparison to Vista, ME takes the crowning crap cake for sure.
That's an excuse really if we're to talk about OSes' hardware certifications. My question before was simply this; Even when 90% of the time if we have a fully stable and working Vista rig
with higher and better specs, is it justifiable to put it
head to head to a lowly Intel GMA 950 driven Macbook? See my point or not? Both different rigs
are working. Hence no relevance whatsoever to worry about certifications. But both are different at performance levels. You'd still have to turn some features off the Vista rig to match up to the Mac. Can understand now?

We're talking designs here.
When we talk about hardware certifications, then what about Linux? It's an independent movement with more unpaid coders and software engineers working on it part time oni all these years, with nary close to MS' Labs outfit at their disposal? No godly amount of financial and organization resources like MS. And yet they can still do distros that runs on 700Mhz CPUs and pitiful by today's standards 256mb RAM? And have you seen those GNOME, KDE and the lowliest XFCE, LXDE desktops lately? On par and even better at most than Vista. Linux fanbois never bother to bat an eye about multi tasking when there's cooler "virtualizations" to be done.
What needs to be done in this upcoming Windows 7 are simple but oddly hard enough for MS to do. We don't need 3 separate desktop editions in 32 or 64 bits variations. We want one that can get the job done and not "beta" until the next service pack. And someone should fix the licensing crap once and for all for same user, diff installations. Any user worth his or her salt wants to fork out RM600-1000 on graphic cards or some more on 4-8gb of memory to run
separate applications on top of the OS, not the other way round. Unless if anyone tells me that MS plans to pack Office, Firefox, Photoshop, Python and Blender all in the OS as a single package (btw this thing is becoming a standard in most Linux distros these days ALREADY....and free...) then it's a diff storylah...

Gigs of RAM just to look at my wallpaper and make sure my windows stays transparent oni? Come on weh

Heck even if it's just a redone Vista
but easier on hardware reqs, XP-like fast and priced I'm grateful edi