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ahnien
post Oct 14 2008, 03:14 PM

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vista.... a failure =.=
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post Oct 14 2008, 03:21 PM

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nice...an improved vista... vista is good already...hope they make it better biggrin.gif
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post Oct 14 2008, 03:24 PM

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I am waiting for windows 8
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post Oct 14 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ahnien @ Oct 14 2008, 03:14 PM)
vista.... a failure =.=
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Did u use vista before?
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post Oct 14 2008, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(alien0110 @ Oct 14 2008, 03:24 PM)
I am waiting for windows 8
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doesn't care which version you wait for, if your PC didn't pass Vista, what make you think it will pass 7? 8? 9? 10?
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post Oct 14 2008, 05:14 PM

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hopefully MS will get things right for win7
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post Oct 15 2008, 10:04 AM

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its not the OS problem. its US (as in customer) problem..

u think u can use Windows7 or Win8 kah kalau specs pun ndak cukup kuat?

surely it'll take MORE processor power, more RAM, and obviously more STORAGE...

if u dont like Vista, u'll surely wont be liking the continuation of its legacy..
vista got problems? surely the next gen will have MORE problems. as the OS is upgrading it'll surely undergo many changes... and A LOT of us hate changes when we're to suttle to settle for what we have now..

even im using Vista now, i have to be satisfy with what i get. i pay for what i get, and what they can offer...

yes, newer OS is more beautiful, more powerful.. but problems is something that HAVE TO EXISTS in this 'competition of upgrading' time...
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post Oct 15 2008, 12:49 PM

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Hope to see it releases simultaneously with AMD lil'dragon(RV870).... happy.gif



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post Oct 15 2008, 01:53 PM

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Hey, I just want a Windows XP with desktop thumbnails and improved security. Windows XP is perfectly fine.
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post Oct 15 2008, 03:35 PM

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yeah rite now u can say like that, like previous windows, such as 98, ME, 2000,

but microsoft will force the customer to use new os from them, they starting to stop all the updates, etc2 for the windows....

and then after that you realized that ur current windows not good anymore....yeah, of course, new windows more good, with new interface, security, etc2.. but need powerfull pc b4 u can run smoothly...ngaaa~~~~!!!.. tongue.gif

b4 this some said, vista no good, messy settings, etc2...but now, most of the people change their os already, heheh..because what?..yeah they look some of the people use it, so they want to try, and after try..they satisfied, hahah!!...i also like that...after installed vista, i dun want to use xp anymore!!!yay!!...i like it!!..same feeling after i change my ME to XP!!!!.... rolleyes.gif


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lol. exactly. sooner or later ull have to change to either vista or 7.. haha.. so enjoy ur XP as much as possible. lol


( same goes to me sad.gif )
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post Oct 15 2008, 10:14 PM

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Now i using ^^ so fast so good very nice
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post Oct 15 2008, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(skyacer @ Oct 15 2008, 10:14 PM)
d'oh doh.gif looks like you're just using Windows XP Service Pack 3 and not anything near Windows 7. And oh, you're using pirated one too doh.gif
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can I still downgrade to windows XP with windows 7??? biggrin.gif
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post Oct 16 2008, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 15 2008, 10:17 PM)
d'oh doh.gif looks like you're just using Windows XP Service Pack 3 and not anything near Windows 7. And oh, you're using pirated one too doh.gif
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YA...is pirated but it can update with window genuine......and the windows7 system tools have analog clock/core temp/filemenu tools/hwmonitor/reshacker/runme/setting/thumbwin/topdesk/transbar/truetransparency/ubericon/ultraexplorer/vienna explorer/visualtasktips/windows 7 pie dock and Yzshadow.

I install 1 more software "rainmeter" make more pretty when view my desktop


Added on October 16, 2008, 12:11 amwindows7 nice part is the "windows 7 pie dock" and center desktop very nice...
I can say this windows can fight with windows VISTA...

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post Oct 16 2008, 12:14 AM

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Windows not even released BETA yet....you can time travel? doh.gif

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post Oct 16 2008, 12:18 AM

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Added on October 16, 2008, 12:20 am
QUOTE(skyacer @ Oct 16 2008, 12:08 AM)
YA...is pirated but it can update with window genuine......and the windows7 system tools have analog clock/core temp/filemenu tools/hwmonitor/reshacker/runme/setting/thumbwin/topdesk/transbar/truetransparency/ubericon/ultraexplorer/vienna explorer/visualtasktips/windows 7 pie dock and Yzshadow.

I install 1 more software "rainmeter" make more pretty when view my desktop


Added on October 16, 2008, 12:11 amwindows7 nice part is the "windows 7 pie dock" and center desktop very nice...
I can say this windows can fight with windows VISTA...
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OPs,sorry i see wrong aready ya this is windows xp sp3 with visual style vienna

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post Oct 16 2008, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(skyacer @ Oct 16 2008, 12:08 AM)
and the windows7 system tools have analog clock/core temp/filemenu tools/hwmonitor/reshacker/runme/setting/thumbwin/topdesk/transbar/truetransparency/ubericon/ultraexplorer/vienna explorer/visualtasktips/windows 7 pie dock and Yzshadow.
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I've used an early release of Windows 7 (really old one) and it does not looks anywhere near that. Nothing nice to see except the drivers are Vista drivers lol
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post Oct 16 2008, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Oct 15 2008, 10:04 AM)
its not the OS problem. its US (as in customer) problem..

u think u can use Windows7 or Win8 kah kalau specs pun ndak cukup kuat?

surely it'll take MORE processor power, more RAM, and obviously more STORAGE...
Interesting remark there as I scoured for this article; A chip too far? - FORTUNE magazine. Although technically the article's contents are mostly redundant to this subject, it does hold some aspects open to questions.

I disagree the part where the problem lies with US...Here's why...

I have long held a bit of contempt with this "hardware needs to keep up with the OS" direction taken by Microsoft based on various factors, 1 of it being; the OS core efficiencies vs. the value from optimized hardware usage's on money spent. In simpler terms, how is it that other far more resilient, robust and literally usage abuse-resistant OSes such as the Mac OS and Linux can be scaled back to not rely or be dependent on raw processing powers alone? It's a known fact that most Wintel or WinAMD DIYed rigs or even mainstream notebooks or laptops are way more better specced than any Mac configurations. You name it whether if it's a Macbook, Macbook Pro, iMac or Mac Pro towers. A typical midrange or low even, Wintel/AMD we can set up out of Low Yat today at far lower prices can easily beat any Mac systems offered currently. Of course the age old "Can it play Crysis" snorts comes into play along with DirectX bragvados, while the always sticky issue of computer gaming still stands so does OS efficiencies.

But here's the kicker; Mac OS works out of the box, does what the user wants it to do very well with less to no hiccups even if it's on more expensive yet underpowered hardware. whistling.gif That's my point. Ignore the prices at the moment and look at older Macbooks's specs before this recent update.

Name me 1 Linux distro out there under the sun that you can't run on 4-5 year old (some can even go way back older) rigs... I'm waiting cool2.gif

"Hardware needs to keep up with the OS" is just the mother of all FUD. Usage trumps all. There's valid reasons why all of these teeny tiny cutey but lamey netbooks are all the rage. It gets what you want it to do... done. Full stop.

Answer? Both (Mac OS and Linux) are coded and engineered to work better on available technologies to maximize a user's ROI, simple as that. To work with users' in mind, not against the user. Definitely not against their wallets. You can argue otherwise when it comes to Mac fanbois but even as I'm not a Mac user, I'm finding it very very hard to have ever seen my Mac using friends ever regret their purchases. They actually save later into the coming years when they can comfortably wait out for Apple's keynotes and product revamps with no apparent probs whatsoever. Us Win users? Pray you're not a gamer or you'd have to jump, evaluate and scrounge for necessary upgrades, at every title that tries to outmax any DX extravaganzas with their sequels. That's not counting that we have to wait out for game patches to sort out compatibilities (Vista 64 anyone? brows.gif) or drivers for same. AND pray if even for "simple yet necessary" service packs' changes doesn't bloat the rig down. MS are lucky that Vista SP1 seems to work the opposite. Same with my Linux hobbyist friends. They're complete freaks at hoarding older systems just for the heck of it, a "luxury" of a hobby that you won't dare to gamble to waste time, energy and money on if you intend to play with Windows.

Yes multimedia APIs are important so does to hold gaming in the vessel but for the rest of the tasks? ; productivity, DTP & design & web? The only saving grace for Windows these days are familiarities and DirectX...that's discounting the fact if most Win gamers would resort to move to their own Xbox if they haven't already...If a Linux distro such as ubuntu can ever figure out how to properly run DirectX apps and more importantly; how to kill off command line out of generic use equation with no or less tradeoffs, MS can say bye bye to Win forever.

I fail to see the relevance, the economic sense and base efficiency for a user to be allocating 20 - 50% system resources just to hold an OS' "desktop" with visual effects in place before running separate applications on top of it?

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QUOTE(eq8all @ Oct 16 2008, 09:28 AM)
But here's the kicker; Mac OS works out of the box, does what the user wants it to do very well with less to no hiccups even if it's on more expensive yet underpowered hardware.  whistling.gif That's my point. Ignore the prices at the moment and look at older Macbooks's specs before this recent update.
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then you must know that even from before, Mac hardwares are monopolized by Apple right? That explain why it "work out of the box", in the meanwhile, WinTel WinAMD combination got lots of different hardwares and configurations, so who's to blame? If the PC hardware manufacturing are monopolized by Microsoft and Microsoft alone (or Intel alone), I'm sure you will see any version of Windows that "work out of the box" like Mac, just my tiny cent here... eventhough not related... sweat.gif

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