refer post #1487 stock market moves in anticipation of the future, most news u wil read is old & stale
imo, whereever can make $$$, its alwiz a good place

izit ok if we do a surprise test on u for trading & investing101 classs?
wat is ur opinion on unicom & china mobile? come on dun be shy... we all wanna see is tis thread working?









in same sector,here is a sample of uptrend, breakout after $5 & supported by volume, but y can it do tat? can u find out?



in same sector,here is a sample of gap up with high volume, but y can it do tat? can u/ any volunteer find out?



come come... anyone out there can participate in this class to make thread active. there is no right or wrong answer.
if u r right, ur bank ac got lots of zero & vice versa if u r wrong. i'm not a fan of buffet, but for those buffet lovers :

In the business world, the rearview mirror is always clearer than the windshield.
Warren Buffett
US financier & investment businessman (1930 - )

This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 22 2009, 10:59 AM

but u no recommend nor gave us a list to choose from in advance

i dun hav hourly ma nor 20ma for them? we need to ask those day traders for assistance
any idea wat drives kong up? try check up google or yahoo finance message boards to see stil got roket fuel or not?
wonder when wil be the pullback? 11? imo, there r other better quality stocks in this group
maybe need to check any momo bought or adding or selling position or not?
also need to check (if got time) those momo got quality boh?

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=KONG

in comparison to lvs

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=lvs

can u see the difference?
so if this stock can generate earnings quarter after quarter & more momo add position
then u r early bird (but maybe it can even do a pullback to shakeout weak holders)
but if co no make money, then could be speculative or goreng stock
notis speculative stock quality difference between us & our beloved m'sia

This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 22 2009, 01:12 PM

here is the post mortem for spar

if u had did earnings play, ie sold before earnings, would gain 6-5.44=.56 (careful as got some stock never move after earnings)



refer above purchase example on arang batu case study, below is the results for 20/3/10 options expiry

bought call option & now close position QQPCA 1.4-.85=.55 lost

bought put option & now close position QQPOA 1-.05=.95 gain before comm

sold call option QQPCA & collected 85 in advance, if want to close position, need to buy back at 130, lost 45 (but normally we do nothing as we had already collected 85. now we waiting to see would open interest person exercise this option or not?) unless we want to keep the stock in hand now

sold put option QQPOA & collected 70 in advance, if want to close position, need to buy back at 175, lost 105 (but normally we do nothing as we had already collected 70. now we waiting to see would open interest person exercise this option or not?) unless we want to keep the stock in hand now

so how do we play dji then?

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Added on October 22, 2009, 11:21 pmhmm... that means 95% of my ramblings could not be understood
ok, in future more pictures, less talking
if can, u got to try the theory & see how it fits to ur study plan

basically 50>200 means its in uptrend
u can note some charts, the price just above 50 & ride up along the trend

so 50<200 means downtrend
u can note some charts, the price just below 200 & ride down along the trend

see how is 50 trying to move, notis it tries to move up, while still under 200

refer dia, qqqq & spy chart. the candlesticks charts & volume is giving u some kind of a clue, where the support & resistance r located
dia = dow jones, qqqq = nasdaq & spy = s&p500

the key point to watch is when 50 intersect with 200 & vice versa, who will win the fight? bulls or bear. u can either wait for confirmation or gamble on its next path

This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 22 2009, 11:48 PM

imo, nothing much to read in conjunction with above , as it seems there is an information overload
its like walking in the forest & looking for a way to the gold mine
of coz u wil wish there r signboard & a highway that leads to there
so i just give some ideas to engage ur mind & show some signs to there
all the best in your trading journey, anything - u can alwiz ask in the thread

refer post#1483
agree, so how u use it & wat u wan to use depends on wat u r looking for
but my portfolio includes short, medium & long term stocks/ etf
for me, i see from overall picture, then i drill deeper down into individual stocks
everyone has diff opinion, as long as wateva makes $$$, its fine

haha... for the market, stil hard to say... its still earnings season - opinion wise, it does seems lethargic

appreciate those who tried the trading & investing101 class.
oh well, since participation really sux time to gulung tikar
but i'll continue post case study whenever i pick up anything la

from now, i'll post gambling101 instead, but as usual, caveat emptor
for those who long, fix ur own buy, profit & cut loss level + vice versa when short
i don't set any limit order, i monitor it & when price hit, i do the necessary
i not licensed investment advisor & is just to show u all a glimpse of usa for ur entertainment purpose
do note, the stocks may or may not be part of my portfolio & this is not a recomendation

gambling101





buy if hit above 51 or pullback to 45 (whichever hit first)
holding period, few days before analyst earnings or when got signs to sell
call option +CLWDJ cost 10.70
if all fails, can be a short candidate



wait pullback $24



buy at market open (options not available)
holding period, few days before analyst earnings or when got signs to sell



wait pullback $20

imo for this range trading, options won't help, as direction still uncertain, it'll just decay its time value



hmm... 16.5-17.5 range trading? i sense greed & fear from the thread
wat the heck, buy market open & gamble ...caveat emptor

ya man & pls go lower so can activate my cut loss

imo, i dun think so, coz the f-ing bac is way too close too overhead, bac its qucikie trade, i no balls for long term on it

gee...i understand its a hassle but if u can read some of the previous post, lots of faq r there
there was some discussion abt buy price, cut loss & target profit - so wats yours?
wat was the reason u buy? r the reason stil valid?
if u can't make up ur mind, i'll quote William Buckingham: "you'll be like a deer in the headlights."

so dun just stand there... evaluate & decide coz its ur hard earned $$$
if u wanna lose it with style, the stock market wil giv u a lesson u wil never forget
who knows? maybe u r lucky & bless & stock can go roket to moon...





50>200ma & looks up, but u gotta ask urself (imo trading takes common sense too )
if u r those lucky fellows who bought during nov08-jan09
wat is ur game plan now

currently, we're having a fun time watching our frens call fear & greed in front of our monitors
hope to hear from u & share around here

btw, if u wanna put range trading from theory into practice, maybe got a slight chance it can swing trade up, but ur buy point makes it hard a bit

This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 24 2009, 12:04 AM

haha... got stuck & next range trading is 15.4-18.1, if it goes below 14.5, i've to say adios
well, hope it can continue downtrend nex week, so stop loss can be activated on the case study
buy the dip, ge fulfils at 15.17

mrPOT, frankly speaking, in terms of 50-200ma, i hav no idea i like the yahoo, as i use KISS method
i heard some others found stockcharts helped them le, so how?

imo, dun get overloaded with book, virtual trade, over reading too deep FA, TA & analyst reports, high chance to get confused
as all wil giv conflicting signals when is time to take action



This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 25 2009, 09:37 AM

to recap last week adventure

gone with the wind : cbst, ebs, aixg & med
watching : rtk 1.57, spar 5.44, bac 16.65, ge 15.17, wms 48.88, fuqi 27.17, gymb 47.78, clw 51, clwdj 10.7, ddrx 30.04



would u all want some other stocks? but it need ur feedbacks & time to analyse it for expected range trading...
as usually i hav some stocks which breakout-then pullback or it swing trades up - then i don't bother
but there's too many for me to monitor, if yes, need 4 volunteers, what price range u all prefer?
i dun like penny stocks or low volume type, normally takes long2 time to move
or u all prefer status quo? ie stay back & watch entertainment as usual, haha

This post has been edited by sulifeisgreat: Oct 26 2009, 11:49 AM

well, sprinting on treadmill means a person running on the track mesin in fitness first
wat is the difference if u go joggin at ur taman or fitness first?
in ur taman, u can move from point a to point b, the timing or distance depends on ur speed (speed=energy=volume=buying power)
on track mesin, u remain at point a, no matter how fast u run, so u feel tired, but at end, remains there

eg. bhi, so much volume but so slow price moves



"The best analogy I can think of for the markets this week is that they have been sprinting on a treadmill. There were some volatile moves back and forth, but in the end, the markets ended up going nowhere."

eg. expe, refer the volume & compare price movement with this. so they wonder y no see this



"The promising breakouts from last week have basically stalled, although most of the indexes remain above their breakout areas.". "There are some clear signals of weakness appearing in the markets, but as of yet there is still not a valid reversal signal. The market remains above prior support and in a near-term lateral range. This coming week should offer additional clues."

eg. refer clw, it has broken out, but stil cannot be push higher yet, so this week wil hav some idea on its movement

"If the indexes fail their breakouts, they could be in for a more prolonged consolidation or lateral trading range. The key level on the downside remains the September lows; if these are breached, it could signal a more protracted correction."

eg. ek breakout $4 with high volume. next breakout is to breach $6 level. however looking at chart, seems wil range trade. if not, can go lower to $3

bac may sell tomolo or today to cut loss, say 15.3
hope u guys/ gals get ur virtual swing trade profit target set for those in watchlist
this thread has TA & analyst report, we seem to be lacking FA specialist care to share
anyway, after reading thru the lyn forum & its related links. it seems 99% of u all r FA buffet lovers & they're able to wipe the floor clean agst TA

hope those FA can follow their master sifu buffet method & invest in USA, i believe they can make it too
i would really appreciate feedbacks from them on how to analyse EPS, PE, fair value & etc - for the benefit of this thread lurkers
r the stocks in my watchlist overvalued & too risky?
any other stocks in usa which is undervalued & can be place on our radar, when/if the correction happens... tq

can tna hit 40 within this week? can consider... but see how low market goes first