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TSLodewijk
post Dec 8 2007, 10:43 PM, updated 18y ago

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Just got QX9650 ES O0

Specification :

Processor QX9650 ES (thanks to Intel Indonesia)
MB Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5 (F4B BIOS) know as X38-DQ6 by CPU-Z tongue.gif
VGA Gigabyte GeForce 8800GT 512 MB
Memory Team DDR2-1200 2 GB Kit (thanks to Foxhound)
HDD WD Caviar 320 GB SATA II
PSU Gigabyte Odin Pro 1200 Watt
Cooled by Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120 + Thermaltake 12 cm Smartfan
Memory Cooled by Corsair Memory Cooling


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On air result @ 4.4 GHz vcore 1.72 volt

80K++ on 3DMARK 2001 SE

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45K ++ on 3DMARK 2003

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25K ++ on 3DMARK 2005

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16K ++ on 3DMARK 2006 (CPU clock only stable @ 4.63 Ghz)

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Super PI 32M @ 4.3 Ghz (update PI 32 @ 4.4 Ghz will publish soon)

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to be continued....... biggrin.gif

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post Dec 8 2007, 10:47 PM

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4.4Ghz on air?? nice rclxms.gif

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Frankiec91
post Dec 8 2007, 10:52 PM

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wow QX9650 ES 4.4ghz.. notworthy.gif
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post Dec 8 2007, 11:22 PM

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but the vcore applied made me sweat.gif
TSLodewijk
post Dec 8 2007, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 8 2007, 10:22 PM)
but the vcore applied made me sweat.gif
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don't worry, penryn cool enough brows.gif. Can you imagine Q6xx using that vcore on air ??? hahahaha

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post Dec 8 2007, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Dec 8 2007, 11:25 PM)
don't worry, penryn cool enough  brows.gif. Can you imagine Q6xx using that vcore on air ??? hahahaha
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d@ng it.. those word would bring me to throw my kentsfield doh.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 8 2007, 11:29 PM

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tha's why la... at first... wow... 1.7vCore, that's too much, how hi/lo the idle/load temp?
TSLodewijk
post Dec 8 2007, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Dec 8 2007, 10:29 PM)
tha's why la... at first... wow... 1.7vCore, that's too much, how hi/lo the idle/load temp?
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it's not really 1.72 volt needed for 4.4 Ghz.

Here's the situation :

- X38-DS5 vcore option above 1.6 volt increment from 0.0025 change to 0.05v (1.65, 1.7, 1.75, 1.8 etc)
- Vdroop on this mobo around 0.03, and real vcore detected by CPU-Z/Everest difference with BIOS setting around 0.03 too. Example : you set 1.65 volt in BIOS, the real vcore you get is : 1.65 - (0.03 + 0.03) = 1.59v
- When i need 1.68 volt for CPU, i can't set the vcore 1.7, because the real vcore applied will be 1.64. So i must go 1,75 volt on BIOS, get real vcore 1.72 and vdroop up to 1.68 - 1.69. This is the real vcore for the CPU.

About idle temp around 31 - 35 degree and full load reach 47 - 50 degree
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post Dec 8 2007, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Dec 8 2007, 11:37 PM)
it's not really 1.72 volt needed for 4.4 Ghz.

Here's the situation :

- X38-DS5 vcore option above 1.6 volt increment from 0.0025 change to 0.05v (1.65, 1.7, 1.75, 1.8 etc)
- Vdroop on this mobo around 0.03, and real vcore detected by CPU-Z/Everest difference with BIOS setting around 0.03 too. Example : you set 1.65 volt in BIOS, the real vcore you get is : 1.65 - (0.03 + 0.03) = 1.59v
- When i need 1.68 volt for CPU, i can't set the vcore 1.7, because the real vcore applied will be 1.64. So i must go 1,75 volt on BIOS, get real vcore 1.72 and vdroop up to 1.68 - 1.69. This is the real vcore for the CPU.

About idle temp around 31 - 35 degree and full load reach 47 - 50 degree
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Hmmm.... but still high vcore wor...... what's the default vcore?

I wonder whether these new 45nm proc can stand high vcore or not.... you know, narrower space, increase risk of electromigration, etc.... hmm.gif

BTW, the temperature is cool!!!
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post Dec 8 2007, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 8 2007, 10:47 PM)
Hmmm.... but still high vcore wor...... what's the default vcore?

I wonder whether these new 45nm proc can stand high vcore or not.... you know, narrower space, increase risk of electromigration, etc....  hmm.gif

BTW, the temperature is cool!!!
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Default vcore detected is 1.25 volt Time will answer your question about that.... biggrin.gif i can't answer it now...
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post Dec 8 2007, 11:56 PM

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I see. Could you give some OC capabilities of this proc on each vcore setting? E.g. Stable OC at 1.3v, 1.35v, 1.4v, 1.5v, or something like that...... wanna know how they OC on lower vcore.... smile.gif

Edit : Oh ya, what's your vdimm setting?

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post Dec 8 2007, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 8 2007, 10:56 PM)
I see. Could you give some OC capabilities of this proc on each vcore setting? E.g. Stable OC at 1.3v, 1.35v, 1.4v, 1.5v, or something like that...... wanna know how they OC on lower vcore....  smile.gif

Edit : Oh ya, what's your vdimm setting?
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okay if i have time i'll do that... since i want to see this baby doing with dry ice first.

My dimm setting for all the benchmark 2.55 volt.

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post Dec 9 2007, 12:16 AM

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1.7vcore idle temp around 31c? rclxm9.gif
but the retail price of QX9650 is killing laugh.gif
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post Dec 9 2007, 02:28 AM

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Q9450 for most people. smile.gif
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Yeah, my next target is the Q9450... wub.gif

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post Dec 9 2007, 07:24 AM

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nice clock benny~! btw while the penryn seems to be a very2 good ocing chip, i wonder why it seems like clock per clock it has same performance as the current quad core..

maybe the extra l2 cache is too overkill .. currently...

if so, people who is not intends to oc extremely, might not have benefits migrating from kentsfield to penryn.. sad.gif

btw i hope the retail one also can hit as high as the ES.. or perhaps better than that!! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2007, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Dec 8 2007, 11:37 PM)
it's not really 1.72 volt needed for 4.4 Ghz.

Here's the situation :

- X38-DS5 vcore option above 1.6 volt increment from 0.0025 change to 0.05v (1.65, 1.7, 1.75, 1.8 etc)
- Vdroop on this mobo around 0.03, and real vcore detected by CPU-Z/Everest difference with BIOS setting around 0.03 too. Example : you set 1.65 volt in BIOS, the real vcore you get is : 1.65 - (0.03 + 0.03) = 1.59v
- When i need 1.68 volt for CPU, i can't set the vcore 1.7, because the real vcore applied will be 1.64. So i must go 1,75 volt on BIOS, get real vcore 1.72 and vdroop up to 1.68 - 1.69. This is the real vcore for the CPU.

About idle temp around 31 - 35 degree and full load reach 47 - 50 degree
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1.7 vcore and that kinda temp? jesus imma throw my kentsfield now lol
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post Dec 9 2007, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Dec 9 2007, 06:22 AM)
Yeah, my next target is the Q9450...  wub.gif

Best bang for buck....  drool.gif
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yap Q9450 best bang for buck... but there's a problem if you want to OC it...the multi is too low.. you will need very very good MB to reach higher clock with it.


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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 9 2007, 06:24 AM)
nice clock benny~! btw while the penryn seems to be a very2 good ocing chip, i wonder why it seems like  clock per clock it has same performance as the current quad core..

maybe the extra l2 cache is too overkill .. currently...

if so, people who is not intends to oc extremely, might not have benefits migrating from kentsfield to penryn.. sad.gif

btw i hope the retail one also can hit as high as the ES.. or perhaps better than that!! biggrin.gif
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thanks irenic

Retail QX9650 is a monster !!! Can do 4 Ghz only with 1.25 -1.35 volt...and i saw somebody can reach 4.7 GHz with only 1.68 volt.

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 9 2007, 07:24 AM)
nice clock benny~! btw while the penryn seems to be a very2 good ocing chip, i wonder why it seems like  clock per clock it has same performance as the current quad core..

maybe the extra l2 cache is too overkill .. currently...

if so, people who is not intends to oc extremely, might not have benefits migrating from kentsfield to penryn.. sad.gif

btw i hope the retail one also can hit as high as the ES.. or perhaps better than that!! biggrin.gif
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A few reviews showed that the wolfdale is, on average, faster than conroe by about 5-10%. Can't remember about kentsfield vs yorkfield though.... IIRC, the most benefit would be those apps that take advantage of SSE4, especially video apps....

QUOTE(Lodewijk @ Dec 9 2007, 08:03 AM)
yap Q9450 best bang for buck... but there's a problem if you want to OC it...the multi is too low.. you will need very very good MB to reach higher clock with it.
Oh ya, forgot about the CPU multipler. Hmmmm.... actually not a problem for me as I'm not an extreme overclocker. Currently using the E6750 with 8x multiplier too.... smile.gif

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