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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with **V9**, SIE "Saga Iswara Enthusiasts"

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neosaint99
post Dec 31 2007, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Dec 31 2007, 09:45 PM)
how do u post a video from hp cam to internet?, i think my format not supported its MIDI format
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u got vid of the immitation BOV d? icon_idea.gif
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post Dec 31 2007, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Dec 31 2007, 09:47 PM)
now the psstths sound come out when i press accelerator and not when i release it....its around 3-4krpm at each gear
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huh?!
y terbalik wan?...
u got reverse turbo ar boss rclxub.gif
wut new technology is dis laugh.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(andychan @ Dec 31 2007, 09:57 PM)
all information fuel price will up around 40sen so go pum now ASAP tongue.gif
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i dont think it will go up
not until elections
word on the street is that its going to be in may
once thats over, fuel n tol price is going to go up
sei lar we all doh.gif


Added on January 1, 2008, 1:31 am
QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 31 2007, 09:59 PM)
Erm.. VS not really important. If want try, you can try it. But not the cipalang brand. grounding will make your headlamp better, and your electric flow will become smoother. But about the headlamp will dim, I not sure that grounding + vs will help or not. Last time, I had the same problem is when my bass kick in, the headlamp will dim. Follow the bass and after I put VS + grounding, it become ok now. But, got a problem still never solve. When my car still stock that time, when I open door and the emergency light turn on, the room like will blinking dim. While now, still the same although I put the grounding and VS. I wonder why.
Erm.. Vs, actually it not really work. The main VS is a device which keep electric current. It only make the car easier to start. Because it got extra current which can boost up the starter easily. Above the VS, my friend tried added in the Original Pivot and done dyno at the same time. From without VS and with VS, the torque is slightly higher around 3 or 4 like that while the horsepower still remain his horsepower. His car is EFI. While the VS in my car, the different is easier to start, my ice really have power to kick compare with no VS and aboout performance improvement, I can't really confirm. Cause maybe is those mentally sense. If your car is EFI, then you can feel the improvement of the VS.

Tomorrow fuel might be increase RM0.40. Andy get the info..  thumbup.gif
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yeap
chances are its all a mental thing
dun think theres any real effect on power etc
ur bass performing better is possible
coz the draw is short and intermittent
so the vs has time to recharge
when the bass kicks, it discharges
for that, i believe the vs could possibly work nod.gif

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post Jan 1 2008, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 1 2008, 12:02 AM)
Erm.. Last time my LMST when turn on air cond, the rpm will gone crazy. Then found is the actuator spoiled and changed a new one. I realize, Rm27k batch really got alot of problem..
HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the members here.. All the best!
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yea
really lot of problem
i think to save cost proton replaced all the human workers at the factory with trained monkeys from zoo negara

eh!... hmm.gif ....wait....
if that happened,....that would mean....the quality would have increased! laugh.gif ahahahaha

so wonder how they actually managed to make it worse hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 1 2008, 01:34 AM)
until may only increase? i think tat time RM0.40 will not be enough for government already RM0.70-RM1.00 maybe.. TOLL if they increase also maybe they ll decrease the road tax like last time.. but decrease in 20% in road tax is negligible but increment of 10% in toll already cost a lot!!
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i go ipoh once already cover d doh.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 1 2008, 01:36 AM)
oh... u r beating around the bushes to say that those worker in one of the malaysia major car manufacturer company is worse than monkey..  rolleyes.gif
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Added on January 1, 2008, 1:40 am
QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 1 2008, 01:36 AM)
oh... u r beating around the bushes to say that those worker in one of the malaysia major car manufacturer company is worse than monkey..  rolleyes.gif
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dun lar so cruel
they not worse than monkeys

they are probably worse than trained monkeys lor
kekeke

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post Jan 1 2008, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Jan 1 2008, 01:56 AM)
HIM???
Bro..when u wan to go TOM's Sticker? From last month till now.. shakehead.gif
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hahaha
ya
i noticed that to laugh.gif
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post Jan 2 2008, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Jan 2 2008, 04:55 PM)
so really izzit my rpm meter faulty liao ??? its nothing to do with the engine right ??

my rpm meter sometime works but sometimes zzz when i drive.... but i dun know when the meter works, it is already giving me wrong timing rpm reading .... i see my rpm meter at 5k liao at highway i dare not to rev higher anymore..... hmm.gif
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cruising at 110kmh on the 5speed iswara gearbox is about 3450
if your meter is showing 3500 for 100kmh, then ur speedo is showing under
time urself wen at constant speed on the highway
count the markers for about 2 or 3km and convert
c wut ur actual speed is
my meter shows 8 over
so wen it shows 110, im actualy doing only 102 doh.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 11:01 AM

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Hey guyz,

what do ya'll think of this kind of fog light setup?
thinking of fixing the Hella Comet 450 Amber Lens on my car in this configuration

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:24 AM)
look nice but wat color? amber color? got picture with light on?
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nope
hvnt got the lamps yet
usually amber penetrates better,...especially on dark wet roads
initially was tinking of white
but white light doesnt light the road as well as amber
thats y thinking of amber now
my friend's car is using this setup (thats his car in the pic)
so wondering if its ok
can the bumper take the weight of the hella lamps?
checked them out in the shop
they are quite heavy compared to the el-cheapo copies hmm.gif


Added on January 14, 2008, 11:51 am
QUOTE(ceo684 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:29 AM)
Currently using it in the same config as you on my saga. Using the normal white colour ones (not the yellow as in yellow ones) to complement the headlamps because my headlamps suck.
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btw, not sure how u jaga ur iswara
the engine n gearbox is mitsu
should be ok if u take care of it
other parts ko is possible lor
but leak oil all that i dont think will hapen if u take care of your car hmm.gif

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 14 2008, 02:23 PM)
Dun use midbox already... use Bullet. Make sure is really mandrel bend..
Our from bumper can support the foglight.. But, better you put it behind the bumper.. Then you can request a metal plate to hold the foglight. And for me, the foglight out behind the grill will look better.. Cause if front, easily crack is kena stone. Hella foglight is made from glass...
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err,...lastime one of our member, i think blackpc, put it behind the grill
then the light beam was kinda bad...alot blocked by the grill

any1 else tried putting behind the grill before?
any pics? (lights off during the day and lights on at night)
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post Jan 14 2008, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 14 2008, 07:34 PM)
After my service, my fc Rm0.17 per km..  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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still abit on the high side bro
mine is about rm0.15/km...12++km/L flex.gif (no mod to the engine at all)
waiting until i change to full synth
then wana c how the fc improve icon_idea.gif
hope to break the 13.5 barrier
hehe

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 14 2008, 11:45 PM)
coz full syn too thin. so it will gone some. biggrin.gif
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thats actually a misconception
if your rings are good, you shouldnt be burning any engine oil even if you r using synths
my bro is using a 1.5 magma
using full synth
noneed top up oso
(except when he changed the oil filter at 10k...then need to top up the oil lost when removing the filter)

i just checked out the BLM today
looks good actually (for the price)
and the specs are surprisingly good too
cant wait to test drive it

the dash is a savvy's
the meters are the savvy AMT's
the steering is a neo's
the radio is a gen2's
the AC vents are from a savvy (i think)
the gear shift (auto) is kindof a perdana concept (not sure where they curi it from)
from the outside, it looks like a little vios...hahaha
overall,...not bad...
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post Jan 15 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 15 2008, 06:13 PM)
I support that.. cause my dad ride already 10 years old plus, he still using full synthetic.. No need top up also..

But, if the engine condition is poor, although 4 years engine also will get less engine oil..

BLM overall is nice... Because of the price, and also the spec.. Only more RM4000++ compare with our lmst.. But dunno handling how.. Dunno power can win our car or not..
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just a sneak peak b4 d launch k peeps cool2.gif

bhp: 96
tested FC: 16km/L (constant speed, flat road, 90kph)
engine: campro 1.3 (twin cam, dual length air intake, fuel injection)
0-100: 13.5sec (not too sure on this spec,...cant remember...should have written down doh.gif )
only sad part is it comes stock with 175 tyres...after using the 185 tyres on my lmst,...i prefer 185...duwan 175 d...hahaha

couldnt test drive, coz cant be seen on the road...sighz... sad.gif

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 16 2008, 07:42 AM)
Stock sport rim where got light la..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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wahhh...like that better stick to our steel rims boh...
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jan 16 2008, 10:40 AM)
of cuz it's not light~
sport rim from JRD jus normal heavy weight lo~
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local jrd heavy
japan jrd better smile.gif


Added on January 16, 2008, 4:00 pm
QUOTE(Mcrae @ Jan 16 2008, 02:23 PM)
just got an additional info bout the new SAGA BLM:

Technical specifications
Engine = CAMPRO 1.3 + Intake Air Fuel Module (IAFM)
Hp = 70KW (94BHP) / 6000rpm
Torque = 120/4000 rpm
High-wide X-X = 4257mm X 1680mm X 1502mm
Luggage space = 413L
Oil barrel = 40 liters
Color = 5 metallic paint, two Putongqi,
= Genetic Silver Metallic paint, Mountain Blue, Zircon Green, Tranquility Black, Gray, red and white Putongqi =
Warranty period = 3 years or 150,000 KM factory warranty
Fuel consumption = hand Pai 5.5 L/100KM, automatic 6.0 L/100KM
its 94 BHP on 1.3 cc engine !!!   drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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slight correction:

torque at 4500rpm not 4000
bhp at 6500rpm not 6000
i saw the proton documents said 96,...anywayz,...jus a lil diff
saw the torque curve oso
much much better than the old campros
i think now the power distribution will be much better nod.gif


Added on January 16, 2008, 4:03 pm
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 16 2008, 02:58 PM)
if most of the power at 4k rpm above, whats the point??... campro engines are popular to have bad low end torque (especially the first gen2 with campro)... thats why they have bad fc....

hopefully this time they tweak the ecu more to shift the torque curve down.... unsure.gif
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the peak power is always above the normal driving band
dont think u can find a car with peak power at 2.5k rpm or sumthing like that
we always drive in the 2nd quarter of the curve
we are not supose to be driving on the negative slope part
this is why diesel engines are so good
their curve have plateus at the top (peak power) so there is a very wide max power band that they can drive in
the petrol engine's curve is basically an increase. peak, and decrease again...so power band is very narrow
this greatly effects the efficiency of the petrol engine

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 16 2008, 04:12 PM)
deng... i know ler peak power cannot be at 2.5k rpm.. even diesel engine also higher....
i mean torque increase is more linear lah... a more straight line graph at the torque graph rather than a slanting upwards geh... u understand what i mean geh....
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ya ya
the curve improve d
much better than lastime
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Added on January 16, 2008, 11:18 pm
QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jan 16 2008, 07:25 PM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
Dun la...  rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif

-pWs-
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regarding the air coming from the fender being hot during the afternoon,...please lar,...common
the air flow rate is too high for the air to heat up with merely the radiation of the sun to heat it
engine is different as there are many components (with a large surface area) that is RADIATING heat (the fender metal is not radiating heat,...the sun is radiating heat,...the fender metal is conducting heat)
so the air from the fender will definitely be practically at ambient temp nod.gif

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 24 2008, 09:13 PM)
hv some problem with vacuum reading. when off air-con is 22. when on air-con is 16-17. is it ok?
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thats normal
this indicates how underpowered our 1.3 engine is
my brother's 1.5 only drop by about 3inHg

now u know y when a/c compressor kicks in there is such a large drop in power rclxub.gif
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post Jan 24 2008, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Jan 24 2008, 09:57 PM)
why all of the vacuum meter reading is so weird...my one start with 0, -2, -4, -6, -8, and etc...is it the same?
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ur meter is reading "gauge pressure"
zero is atmospheric pressure and then any vacuum is represented in negative values (below zero gauge pressure)
normal meters read atmospheric pressure as zero
it is also gauge pressure
but then vacuum is measured in inches mercury where 30inHg is perfect vacuum
its just a different way to represent pressure
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Added on January 24, 2008, 10:34 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 24 2008, 10:02 PM)
my reading are inches of mercury (in. Hg.).


Added on January 24, 2008, 10:16 pm

here u go
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hmm.gif interesting
ur meter is using stepper motor
nice n smooth movement
but abit sluggish response tho hmm.gif


Added on January 24, 2008, 10:35 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 24 2008, 10:31 PM)
icic. but very hard to drive not below 5 brows.gif
coz my meter can set warning if below 5.
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can can
v possible
i most of the time drive above 5
unless kau kau accelerating lar
then usually press till 2 n rev till 4k sweat.gif

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 24 2008, 10:41 PM)
today i play with volks golf..
that fella so sombong man, he flash light and hon when i go over take a lorry at a steep curve

then when he go on my right and try cut thats when i accelerate biggrin.gif...
guess who win?
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u redline ur car ar? rclxub.gif

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