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post Dec 9 2007, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(virginslayer @ Dec 9 2007, 04:26 AM)
hello guy..i own a 1995 iswara sedan=)
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Yea...at last V9 already.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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post Dec 9 2007, 09:45 AM

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hey guyz
leave u guys skejap n u all go n start v9 d
hahaha

anywayz,...heres a snippet of the post i put in my iswara mod thread

*quote*
i just tried out my friend's new lmst
its using the stock 4-1 exhaust manifold
i can honestly say that his car has far better low end torque compared to mine which is using a long 4-2-1 extractor (which was stock when i purchased my car back in May)
if ya'll are having problems with power, i would suggest you get a trade in on the 4-2-1 extractor at your local exhaust shop
im sure they have many 2nd hand 4-1s hanging around
im seriously considering doing this as my low end torque is really bad hmm.gif
*unquote*

the new lmst (with the crummy tail-pipe and 'long' gear shift) is wayyy lighter than mine which i got in May
the clutch is lighter, the gears smoother, i think the power steering is also lighter (havnt driven my car in a month so cant really remember)
...and the best part is,...it has far better low end torque!
this will significantly improve efficiency,...especially in town driving

any idea howmuch it would cost to swap my 4-2-1 for a stock 4-1?
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post Dec 9 2007, 09:49 AM

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oh,...and i need to fix fog lamps on my car
some of the roads here are really really....(and i mean REALLY)...dark rclxub.gif
any pics of ppl who have installed?

i saw in v8 singchaii posted a pic
but that was with the lights on
couldnt c how the lights themselves were mounted

anyone else fixed fog lamps?
can please post pics here?
i need ideas
hehe
thanks alot peeps
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 9 2007, 12:02 AM)
..............
2day go i go liao.
howeii so nice. ask him too many question tongue.gif
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I said jor howie very good and friendly de la.. You all dun believe only.. Intro yourself then he will serve you well geh..

QUOTE(cheeann @ Dec 9 2007, 12:12 AM)
i sum1 2 go there for me take signature from wynners d~
i can provide 2 tickets pass for them le~
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I wan vip ticket.. whistling.gif whistling.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:45 AM)
hey guyz
leave u guys skejap n u all go n start v9 d
hahaha

anywayz,...heres a snippet of the post i put in my iswara mod thread

*quote*
i just tried out my friend's new lmst
its using the stock 4-1 exhaust manifold
i can honestly say that his car has far better low end torque compared to mine which is using a long 4-2-1 extractor (which was stock when i purchased my car back in May)
if ya'll are having problems with power, i would suggest you get a trade in on the 4-2-1 extractor at your local exhaust shop
im sure they have many 2nd hand 4-1s hanging around
im seriously considering doing this as my low end torque is really bad  hmm.gif
*unquote*

the new lmst (with the crummy tail-pipe and 'long' gear shift) is wayyy lighter than mine which i got in May
the clutch is lighter, the gears smoother, i think the power steering is also lighter (havnt driven my car in a month so cant really remember)
...and the best part is,...it has far better low end torque!
this will significantly improve efficiency,...especially in town driving

any idea howmuch it would cost to swap my 4-2-1 for a stock 4-1?
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I suggest you don't swap to 4-1. Just like me change the exhaust system last month ago. I changed my midbox into bullet and monza straight flow and still using 1.6 piping with 4-2-1 wise extractor. The different now is, I had better pick up. Seriously that my pick up so gear. While in top speed, no different with last time.. Stock exhaust setup, 0-100km/h I get around 12 seconds while after change my exhaust, I can get around 10 seconds. I tested it at a long straight road. icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:49 AM)
oh,...and i need to fix fog lamps on my car
some of the roads here are really really....(and i mean REALLY)...dark rclxub.gif
any pics of ppl who have installed?

i saw in v8 singchaii posted a pic
but that was with the lights on
couldnt c how the lights themselves were mounted

anyone else fixed fog lamps?
can please post pics here?
i need ideas
hehe
thanks alot peeps
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I suggest you get HELLA driving lamp. The light beam, more good that our LMST headlamp. sad.gif But above Rm160 for each. The image i posted is myvi foglamp. I wouldn't help much in driving.
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 9 2007, 11:10 AM)
I wan vip ticket..  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

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i can provide 2 passes for u if u can get my cd sign by their signature~
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:47 AM

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aiyo until now still nvr add me in the list ar? XD

i drive a lmst 1.3 got it this year around june.
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 9 2007, 10:10 AM)
I suggest you don't swap to 4-1. Just like me change the exhaust system last month ago. I changed my midbox into bullet and monza straight flow and still using 1.6 piping with 4-2-1 wise extractor. The different now is, I had better pick up. Seriously that my pick up so gear. While in top speed, no different with last time.. Stock exhaust setup, 0-100km/h I get around 12 seconds while after change my exhaust, I can get around 10 seconds. I tested it at a long straight road.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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but if i can get the same with a stock swap i would rather do that than change the exhaust line
lastime i drove my fren's lmst to ipoh n back
got 16++km/L!!!
his was using stock 4-1 manifold
and there were 3 of us in the car
n had our stuff in the boot too

thats y wen get 12+km/L with my lmst i was very disappointed
i think it has to do with the extractor and exhaust line that they changed
no idea y they keep changing
dun think they are doing any modeling to test oso
just main change change je
haih...

QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 9 2007, 10:10 AM)
I suggest you get HELLA driving lamp. The light beam, more good that our LMST headlamp.  sad.gif But above Rm160 for each. The image i posted is myvi foglamp. I wouldn't help much in driving.
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any pics?
i tot the myvi fog lamps similar to the gen2's?
the gen2 fog lamps performance not bad wor
wen i 1st came here i was using a gen2 for 3 weeks
it had the fog lamps and i was using them alot for my night driving on the darker roads


any1 got pics of fog lamps they installed?

thanks all biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Dec 9 2007, 10:57 AM
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:49 AM)
oh,...and i need to fix fog lamps on my car
some of the roads here are really really....(and i mean REALLY)...dark rclxub.gif
any pics of ppl who have installed?

i saw in v8 singchaii posted a pic
but that was with the lights on
couldnt c how the lights themselves were mounted

anyone else fixed fog lamps?
can please post pics here?
i need ideas
hehe
thanks alot peeps
biggrin.gif
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bro, u can check out mine;
user posted image

for the picture of them lighted up, refer to the first page.

I am very happy with the fog lights' performance. Price is only rm120 per pair. It's very sturdy as well, no scratches at all until now.

By the way, where is pembunuh bijirin going?

This post has been edited by blackpc: Dec 9 2007, 10:58 AM
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post Dec 9 2007, 10:59 AM

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any1 here if thinks can help me later pls sms/missed call my hp 012-2792112
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post Dec 9 2007, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 9 2007, 10:51 AM)
but if i can get the same with a stock swap i would rather do that than change the exhaust line
lastime i drove my fren's lmst to ipoh n back
got 16++km/L!!!
his was using stock 4-1 manifold
and there were 3 of us in the car
n had our stuff in the boot too

thats y wen get 12+km/L with my lmst i was very disappointed
i think it has to do with the extractor and exhaust line that they changed
no idea y they keep changing
dun think they are doing any modeling to test oso
just main change change je
haih...
any pics?
i tot the myvi fog lamps similar to the gen2's?
the gen2 fog lamps performance not bad wor
wen i 1st came here i was using a gen2 for 3 weeks
it had the fog lamps and i was using them alot for my night driving on the darker roads
any1 got pics of fog lamps they installed?

thanks all biggrin.gif
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I dunno how to count how many km/l. While after I change my muffler, RM0.17 per km. Hehe. I dun think swap the extractor only can give more improvement.

I dun think myvi foglamp can work well when after install in our lmst bumper. because, the myvi foglight we terbalik only can fit. So I scare the beam also terbalik.

this is Hella comet 450. (rm90+ each)
user posted image

This is hella driving lamp. The beam, more good that our oem headlamp. (near RM200 each)
user posted image


QUOTE(blackpc @ Dec 9 2007, 10:57 AM)
bro, u can check out mine;
user posted image

for the picture of them lighted up, refer to the first page.

I am very happy with the fog lights' performance. Price is only rm120 per pair. It's very sturdy as well, no scratches at all until now.

By the way, where is pembunuh bijirin going?
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Pembunuh bijiran wan go johor already. This coming saturday TT wan come or not ler? Hehe.
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post Dec 9 2007, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 9 2007, 11:19 AM)
Pembunuh bijiran wan go johor already. This coming saturday TT wan come or not ler? Hehe.
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owh.. sorry bro. I'm not in KL. Enjoy the TT!
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post Dec 9 2007, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(yewwing @ Dec 8 2007, 11:19 PM)
Thanks Gilbert for recommending a good shop for me..finally i get my pillar gauge holder done...hehe thumbup.gif
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post Dec 9 2007, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 9 2007, 09:45 AM)
hey guyz
leave u guys skejap n u all go n start v9 d
hahaha

anywayz,...heres a snippet of the post i put in my iswara mod thread

*quote*
i just tried out my friend's new lmst
its using the stock 4-1 exhaust manifold
i can honestly say that his car has far better low end torque compared to mine which is using a long 4-2-1 extractor (which was stock when i purchased my car back in May)
if ya'll are having problems with power, i would suggest you get a trade in on the 4-2-1 extractor at your local exhaust shop
im sure they have many 2nd hand 4-1s hanging around
im seriously considering doing this as my low end torque is really bad  hmm.gif
*unquote*

the new lmst (with the crummy tail-pipe and 'long' gear shift) is wayyy lighter than mine which i got in May
the clutch is lighter, the gears smoother, i think the power steering is also lighter (havnt driven my car in a month so cant really remember)
...and the best part is,...it has far better low end torque!
this will significantly improve efficiency,...especially in town driving

any idea howmuch it would cost to swap my 4-2-1 for a stock 4-1?
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swap with mine. ^^
as u can see in the market. performance exhaust is 4-2-1. i hv check mine n i found out the the proton oem 4-1 exhaust bend is bad. i can see the main band hv a sharp corner. for sure the exhaust flow is no good.

This post has been edited by wkho555: Dec 9 2007, 05:30 PM
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post Dec 9 2007, 06:43 PM

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sry OT abit, but can anyone list out the difference (in terms of parts) between the 27k LMST and the previously more expensive iswara...
let me start first
1) extrator 421 to 41
2) lousier ekzos pipe
3) lousier suspension (issit)
4)
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post Dec 9 2007, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Dec 9 2007, 10:57 AM)
bro, u can check out mine;
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


for the picture of them lighted up, refer to the first page.

I am very happy with the fog lights' performance. Price is only rm120 per pair. It's very sturdy as well, no scratches at all until now.

By the way, where is pembunuh bijirin going?
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what brand is it?
can it adjust the "left-right" direction?
i see the mounting as if can only adjust up and down hmm.gif


Added on December 9, 2007, 7:00 pm
QUOTE(singchaii @ Dec 9 2007, 11:19 AM)
I dunno how to count how many km/l. While after I change my muffler, RM0.17 per km. Hehe. I dun think swap the extractor only can give more improvement.

I dun think myvi foglamp can work well when after install in our lmst bumper. because, the myvi foglight we terbalik only can fit. So I scare the beam also terbalik.

this is Hella comet 450. (rm90+ each)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


This is hella driving lamp. The beam, more good that our oem headlamp. (near RM200 each)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Pembunuh bijiran wan go johor already. This coming saturday TT wan come or not ler? Hehe.
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oh
didnt know must terbalik...
if like that den duwan lor
hahaha

the hela comet looks like something off a land cruiser or range rover
dun think it'll look good on a car
the driving lamp on the other hand looks good
any dimension?
and can it adjust "left-right" direction?
this one oso the bracket looks like can only adjust "up-down"


Added on December 9, 2007, 7:01 pm
QUOTE(wkho555 @ Dec 9 2007, 05:27 PM)
swap with mine. ^^
as u can see in the market. performance exhaust is 4-2-1. i hv check mine n i found out the the proton oem 4-1 exhaust bend is bad.  i can see the main band hv a sharp corner. for sure the exhaust flow is no good.
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do u have a pic of the band?
would be interesting to know

all performance extractors are 4-2-1
thats true
but then the engine must also be tuned for it
cant just go and slap an extractor on just any engine block
if the match doesnt jive, the performance will actually decrease rather than increase

This post has been edited by neosaint99: Dec 9 2007, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Dec 9 2007, 06:43 PM)
sry OT abit, but can anyone list out the difference (in terms of parts) between the 27k LMST and the previously more expensive iswara...
let me start first
1) extrator 421 to 41
2) lousier ekzos pipe
3) lousier suspension (issit)
4)
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4)interior more plastic
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post Dec 9 2007, 07:21 PM

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also, is the warranty cover air cond, power windows, absorber for 5 years? or less, or not covered?
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post Dec 9 2007, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Dec 9 2007, 06:43 PM)
sry OT abit, but can anyone list out the difference (in terms of parts) between the 27k LMST and the previously more expensive iswara...
let me start first
1) extrator 421 to 41
2) lousier ekzos pipe
3) lousier suspension (issit)
4)
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confirm is lousier suspension. My suspension dead after when 3months. vmad.gif vmad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Dec 9 2007, 06:58 PM)
what brand is it?
can it adjust the "left-right" direction?
i see the mounting as if can only adjust up and down hmm.gif


Added on December 9, 2007, 7:00 pm
oh
didnt know must terbalik...
if like that den duwan lor
hahaha

the hela comet looks like something off a land cruiser or range rover
dun think it'll look good on a car
the driving lamp on the other hand looks good
any dimension?
and can it adjust "left-right" direction?
this one oso the bracket looks like can only adjust "up-down"


Added on December 9, 2007, 7:01 pm

do u have a pic of the band?
would be interesting to know

all performance extractors are 4-2-1
thats true
but then the engine must also be tuned for it
cant just go and slap an extractor on just any engine block
if the match doesnt jive, the performance will actually decrease rather than increase
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The driving lamp can adjust. About the hella comet 450, it look ugly if put on bumper. It will look better if put behind the behind. I mean behind the grill.. It look more nicer. If with amber, it look like AE86. =P

I got some example of Hella 450 beam. If you wanna see, I post for you to see..

QUOTE(PureGeek @ Dec 9 2007, 07:21 PM)
also, is the warranty cover air cond, power windows, absorber for 5 years? or less, or not covered?
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Absorber didn't include warranty although it dead 3 month.. Power window yes, air cond yes.
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Dec 9 2007, 09:36 AM)
MIA so long adi baru muncul... whistling.gif
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Sorry laugh.gif laugh.gif

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