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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with **V9**, SIE "Saga Iswara Enthusiasts"

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post Jan 24 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 24 2008, 11:09 PM)
Mine is normal drive, hardly below 15 reading.. If when full throttle, 0 reading..
Black tinted doesn't mean their dunno got what inside de.. My cousin putra all all window 90% dark, windscreen 70% tinted, his car also being broke into.. His RSM put on the glove box being stolen.. Only the rsm on his glove box.. Happen last months... Being hide those thief also know..
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luck lo. my car very low profile 1. haha.
what is RSM actually???
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 24 2008, 11:01 PM)
Let me tell you something.. gauge stick at windscreen not really good.. Your windscreen will crack by theif..And, in future when the heat kena the tape, it will left some mark there...

By the way, what you guy talking about? Driving not below 10 reading?
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10inches mercury
10inHg
refering to the meter reading
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 24 2008, 11:11 PM)
luck lo. my car very low profile 1. haha.
what is RSM actually???
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Rev Speed Meter.. It show your REV and Speed in Digital and got memories your top speed...

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jan 24 2008, 11:11 PM)
10inches mercury
10inHg
refering to the meter reading
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Mine is HG..


Added on January 24, 2008, 11:17 pmBy the way, today I bought a pair of Philips Rally 100/90 bulb.. It much more better that my hella.. so bright...

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PureGeek
post Jan 24 2008, 11:19 PM

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can we DIY for this vacumm gauge?
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 24 2008, 11:19 PM)
can we DIY for this vacumm gauge?
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DIY install or DIY make a vacumm gauge? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 24 2008, 11:14 PM)
Rev Speed Meter.. It show your REV and Speed in Digital and got memories your top speed...
Mine is HG..


Added on January 24, 2008, 11:17 pmBy the way, today I bought a pair of Philips Rally 100/90 bulb.. It much more better that my hella.. so bright...
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yup
thats it
Hg = hyrdogyrum which is latin for liquid metal...which is exactly what mercury is at room temperature wink.gif
so inHg = inches mercury which in short is sometimes abbreviated to just plain "Hg" nod.gif
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:23 PM

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DIY install/.... how do u install it? must plug into the engine?
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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 24 2008, 11:19 PM)
can we DIY for this vacumm gauge?
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hahaha
ya ya
i oso wondering
want to diy make it or diy install
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 24 2008, 11:23 PM)
DIY install/.... how do u install it? must plug into the engine?
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Install is very easy.. You go find the neosaint99 thread and he got show how to DIY install.. While I diy installed my by using catacomb sifu de guide.. Hehe..

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jan 24 2008, 11:23 PM)
hahaha
ya ya
i oso wondering
want to diy make it or diy install
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If can DIY make, I wanna also.. Hehe..
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post Jan 24 2008, 11:29 PM

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post Jan 25 2008, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 24 2008, 09:13 PM)
hv some problem with vacuum reading. when off air-con is 22. when on air-con is 16-17. is it ok?
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aircond off reading 22 means ignition timing abit too advance... do u hear pinging sound under loaded acceleration?? (especially uphill acceleration with aircond switched on).... if yes, try retard ur timing a little... constant detonation can cause premature engine failure.... icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 24 2008, 10:41 PM)
today i play with volks golf..
that fella so sombong man, he flash light and hon when i go over take a lorry at a steep curve

then when he go on my right and try cut thats when i accelerate biggrin.gif...
guess who win?
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that day i also play with an alphard on PLUS highway... he tiong and flashlight me when i'm crusing 110kmh.... knn, chase dat fella up to 140kmh before i see my rear view mirror got patrol car coming... laugh.gif

QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Jan 24 2008, 10:49 PM)
train ur foot
lastime wen i 1st start to drive mine was very erratic
now can control half inHg oso d  thumbup.gif
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me too icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(PureGeek @ Jan 24 2008, 11:23 PM)
DIY install/.... how do u install it? must plug into the engine?
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wiring to 12v, ground, and signal from vacuum sensor unit... vacuum tube to the hose coming out from intake manifold... vr easy... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 25 2008, 12:59 AM

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guys wanna ask horr if my saga engine was running idle for 5-10 minutes then it suddenly turn off by itself, so i need to on it again...so wat is the problem there ?

thanks

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post Jan 25 2008, 01:37 AM

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choke problem... u start then press ur pedal gently and see if the problem still persist. if no then choke problem by the way ur car got auto choke or not?
by the way ur engine already hot or not? if already hot still stall then u can tune up abit ur cab so more fuel ll be flow in then ur rpm ll be higher

Added on January 25, 2008, 1:39 am
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 25 2008, 12:51 AM)
aircond off reading 22 means ignition timing abit too advance... do u hear pinging sound under loaded acceleration?? (especially uphill acceleration with aircond switched on).... if yes, try retard ur timing a little... constant detonation can cause premature engine failure.... icon_rolleyes.gif
that day i also play with an alphard on PLUS highway... he tiong and flashlight me when i'm crusing 110kmh.... knn, chase dat fella up to 140kmh before i see my rear view mirror got patrol car coming... laugh.gif
me too  icon_rolleyes.gif
wiring to 12v, ground, and signal from vacuum sensor unit... vacuum tube to the hose coming out from intake manifold... vr easy...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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fuhyoh 1.3 vs 3.0 (or at least 2.4) monster detected notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

that day i also play with a benz e class i dulan he tiong me so i left him pass and i tiong him back without 30 sec he already missing.. sweat.gif doh.gif vmad.gif mad.gif vmad.gif

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post Jan 25 2008, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mcrae @ Jan 25 2008, 12:59 AM)
guys wanna ask horr if my saga engine was running idle for 5-10 minutes then it suddenly turn off by itself, so i need to on it again...so  wat is the problem there ?

thanks
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u installed turbo timer ahh??... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jan 25 2008, 01:37 AM)
fuhyoh 1.3 vs 3.0 (or at least 2.4) monster detected notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

that day i also play with a benz e class i dulan he tiong me so i left him pass and i tiong him back without 30 sec he already missing..  sweat.gif  doh.gif  vmad.gif  mad.gif  vmad.gif
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noler... i able to tiong him at 140kmh because he was blocked by another mpv in front... if not he smoked me kao kao adi... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 25 2008, 03:35 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 25 2008, 12:11 AM)
luck lo. my car very low profile 1. haha.
what is RSM actually???
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lu apa low profile? ?
i think hor~
u wanna b low profile silentkiller jor~

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post Jan 25 2008, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 25 2008, 12:51 AM)
aircond off reading 22 means ignition timing abit too advance... do u hear pinging sound under loaded acceleration?? (especially uphill acceleration with aircond switched on).... if yes, try retard ur timing a little... constant detonation can cause premature engine failure.... icon_rolleyes.gif
that day i also play with an alphard on PLUS highway... he tiong and flashlight me when i'm crusing 110kmh.... knn, chase dat fella up to 140kmh before i see my rear view mirror got patrol car coming... laugh.gif
me too  icon_rolleyes.gif
wiring to 12v, ground, and signal from vacuum sensor unit... vacuum tube to the hose coming out from intake manifold... vr easy...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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pinging sound? u mean something like klinging sound like. i always hear that even if 2-3k when up hill. i ask the SC n he say is ok de wo. .........
how to retard timing arr. which skrew. can teach arr. still noob with this timing things. thx ^^

QUOTE(cheeann @ Jan 25 2008, 03:35 AM)
lu apa low profile? ?
i think hor~
u wanna b low profile silentkiller jor~
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outside no mod ma. n now a day travel a lot a but lazy to wash car tongue.gif


Added on January 25, 2008, 7:20 amwhere andy jor brows.gif

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post Jan 25 2008, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 25 2008, 07:13 AM)
pinging sound? u mean something like klinging sound like. i always hear that even if 2-3k when up hill. i ask the SC n he say is ok de wo. .........
how to retard timing arr. which skrew. can teach arr. still noob with this timing things. thx ^^
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abit is ok... but too loud is no good lor... u can feel the difference after retard the timing... ur mid to high rpm revs are much nicer... ur car pulls a little smoother... but 1 problem, ur initial pickup from standstill sucks... laugh.gif

try get the balance between eliminating the pinging sound and getting a good/reasonable standstill pickup... this requires a certain amount of trial n error tuning...

u retard/advance the ignition timing at ur distributor... loosen (do not remove) the 2 bolts connecting the distributor to the cylinder head... push down (CCW is looking at it from the side from drive's side) to retard, pull up to advance... u will notice ur idle rpm increases as u advance the timing... do not advance too much.... u can alwiz refer to ur vacuum gauge (if u have one) for reference... reference point will be at 20inHg...

thru my experience, vr hard to get good accelerations but yet eliminate pinging for magma engines... but u can alwiz try using v-power fuel (higher octane) + colder heatrange sparkplug... this will reduce detonation/pinging....

good luck... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 25 2008, 07:42 AM

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I wanna ask you guy something especially LMST owner.. Have you realize the car got 'tak' sound when underpowered time? When mine car not enough power, then it will got the sound 'tak' on the dashboard at the left side, then the car will have power back.. When got the sound 'tak', you will feel the power coming...
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post Jan 25 2008, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jan 25 2008, 07:41 AM)
abit is ok... but too loud is no good lor... u can feel the difference after retard the timing... ur mid to high rpm revs are much nicer... ur car pulls a little smoother... but 1 problem, ur initial pickup from standstill sucks... laugh.gif

try get the balance between eliminating the pinging sound and getting a good/reasonable standstill pickup... this requires a certain amount of trial n error tuning...

u retard/advance the ignition timing at ur distributor... loosen (do not remove) the 2 bolts connecting the distributor to the cylinder head... push down (CCW is looking at it from the side from drive's side) to retard, pull up to advance... u will notice ur idle rpm increases as u advance the timing... do not advance too much.... u can alwiz refer to ur vacuum gauge (if u have one) for reference... reference point will be at 20inHg...

thru my experience, vr hard to get good accelerations but yet eliminate pinging for magma engines... but u can alwiz try using v-power fuel (higher octane) + colder heatrange sparkplug... this will reduce detonation/pinging....

good luck... icon_rolleyes.gif
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colder heatrange sparkplug mean which type o.....
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post Jan 25 2008, 07:44 AM

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actually there is another way of advance/retard ur timing... which in fact is the proper way compare to messing with ur distributor....
this u need adjustable campulley... advance and retard using it....
this is the basics of DVVT, VVTi, CVT, etc. works.... only that we are doing it manually while those technology advance/retards it according to ur driving style...


Added on January 25, 2008, 7:46 am
QUOTE(singchaii @ Jan 25 2008, 07:42 AM)
I wanna ask you guy something especially LMST owner.. Have you realize the car got 'tak' sound when underpowered time? When mine car not enough power, then it will got the sound 'tak' on the dashboard at the left side, then the car will have power back.. When got the sound 'tak', you will feel the power coming...
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thats the pinging sound lor... when u pump v-power, does the pinging sound reduces??...

QUOTE(wkho555 @ Jan 25 2008, 07:44 AM)
colder heatrange sparkplug mean which type o.....
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normal one is BP5ES.... try use BP6ES... forced induction engines usually use heatrange 7-9....

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