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 LYN Guitar Phreaks Club v7 strings, Happy New Year all ... rock on to 2008 !

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post Jan 6 2008, 07:12 PM

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Have you guys ever experienced guitar tragedies like broken neck or headstock from a fall or anything like that?
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post Jan 6 2008, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Jan 6 2008, 07:12 PM)
Have you guys ever experienced guitar tragedies like broken neck or headstock from a fall or anything like that?
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i had tongue.gif
it was an old yamaha classical guitar given to me by someone
that time i did not have a guitar stand, so i left it leaning against a corner of the walls

it actually survived a few rounds of falls before one fine day, the guitar had enough of it. and broke into 2 pieces blush.gif
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post Jan 6 2008, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(quarantined @ Jan 5 2008, 10:04 PM)
Opfish, it is great, i enjoy watching the video. You really feeling the song aye? smile.gif

on a side note, i'm very much in love with Pearl Jam's rendition of Love Reign O've Me. Perhaps another video on it soon? biggrin.gif
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thanks for the kind words man. really appreciate it. biggrin.gif

i don't think i can do that one in the nearest future coz i have other songs in mind. i'll try to record ASAP & will keep u updated. thanks.
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post Jan 7 2008, 01:47 AM

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can someone help me with mods

i know they are the same scales starting on a different note, i know the chords define how it sounds.

BUT

how am i to use them, if i paly a D dorian over a C major chord progression it would be a C major scale right?

or should i play a D dorian under a D key which has d maj chord progressions, but the Dorian scale would not be "in" key as its still a C maj
and not having the C# and the F#.

or should i build a dorian mode progerssion and use the mode on it

halp? thanks

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post Jan 7 2008, 09:08 AM

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If let's say you're playing a C major scale, you start a D Dorian run with your root note on C.

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post Jan 7 2008, 11:27 AM

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Tekki, don't think you should have a 'D Dorian' mode in a D major chord progression and omit the C# and F# and play the notes in the C major key instead, it sounds pretty weird! (But of course there's always the Steve Vai/Marty Friedman school of phrasing where I hear they do it that way, for example play A Dorian in an A major key or something, pretty advanced for my comprehension! sad.gif )

And er Mr Blacktrix, a D Dorian run wouldn't be starting on a C as a root note!
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Whoops..... I'm doing something seriously wrong then!
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post Jan 7 2008, 11:41 AM

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Haha no la, nothing really wrong with starting your run with C as the root note, just that it's no longer a D Dorian mode, that's all. It becomes a C Ionian run then. Still in key and like Ingvay says...' If it sounds good, it's good!'

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wah so epic call it C Ionian.
say la C Major scale tongue.gif
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post Jan 7 2008, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 7 2008, 11:27 AM)
Tekki, don't think you should have a 'D Dorian' mode in a D major chord progression and omit the C# and F# and play the notes in the C major key instead, it sounds pretty weird! (But of course there's always the Steve Vai/Marty Friedman school of phrasing where I hear they do it that way, for example play A Dorian in an A major key or something, pretty advanced for my comprehension!  sad.gif  )

And er Mr Blacktrix, a D Dorian run wouldn't be starting on a C as a root note!
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ook.........so i do a D dorian under a C maj progression? wouldnt that result to C major phrasing (since the chord defines the sound)?

always get damn confused with this
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 7 2008, 11:56 AM)
ook.........so i do a D dorian under a C maj progression? wouldnt that result to C major phrasing (since the chord defines the sound)?

always get damn confused with this
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you start on the 'root note' of the mode in the respective key.
easier way to understand.
in C major key.
say A Aeolian, ie. A Minor.
is that still a C Major scale? technically no cos you start and end on the A.
likewise for the D Dorian in C major key.
they all sound different depending on how they start and of cos how you phrase it.

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 7 2008, 01:47 AM)
can someone help me with mods

i know they are the same scales starting on a different note, i know the chords define how it sounds.

BUT

how am i to use them, if i paly a D dorian over a C major chord progression it would be a C major scale right?

or should i play a D dorian under a D key which has d maj chord progressions, but the Dorian scale would not be "in" key as its still a C maj
and not having the C# and the F#.

or  should i build a  dorian mode progerssion and use the mode on it

halp? thanks
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Depends how you're using it, if you're talking about modal soloing, you're treating each chord as a seperate 'progression'. That's why when you go through modes lessons, you would come across a section that tells you which mode sounds melodic over which chords. Ie, If you encounter a G7 chord, use G Mixolydian over it; Dm7, use D Dorian etc etc...

That's what I know lar... of course, it gets more complicated as you venture deeper. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 7 2008, 12:03 PM)
you start on the 'root note' of the mode in the respective key.
easier way to understand.
in C major key.
say A Aeolian, ie. A Minor.
is that still a C Major scale? technically no cos you start and end on the A.
likewise for the D Dorian in C major key.
they all sound different depending on how they start and of cos how you phrase it.
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well true, then lets say if i solo the full scale (in C maj). i would bump into some licks that start with A so im using an A aeolian?

QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jan 7 2008, 01:49 PM)
Depends how you're using it, if you're talking about modal soloing, you're treating each chord as a seperate 'progression'. That's why when you go through modes lessons, you would come across a section that tells you which mode sounds melodic over which chords. Ie, If you encounter a G7 chord, use G Mixolydian over it; Dm7, use D Dorian etc etc...

That's what I know lar... of course, it gets more complicated as you venture deeper. laugh.gif
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hmmm thanks

i think im getting it, so im to play a C maj but to start it with another tonic i would be playing a mode? even under a basic C maj I,III, V chord prog? heck that would make me play tons of modes in every solo?

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Oh yeah. He subbed in for Bass during the Jay Leno show too......
His parents bought him a costco guitar and amplifier set when he was young, and they had to repay it of for a year......

And you're already complaining that gibson cost too much.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Jan 7 2008, 10:13 PM)
well true, then lets say if i solo the full scale (in C maj). i would bump into some licks that start with A so im using an A aeolian?
hmmm thanks

i think im getting it, so im to play a C maj but to start it with another tonic i would be playing a mode? even under a basic C maj I,III, V chord prog? heck that would make me play tons of modes in every solo?
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Yes you are! The whole purpose of playing modes is that have mode 'flavours' in your soloing. Basically, you're still playing the same 7 notes! Looks like you already understand modes, just that it can sound so complicated.

But of coz, as I mentioned earlier, the Steve Vai/Marty Friedman school of modal soloing is a lot more complicated!
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QUOTE(valkyrie1232 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:07 PM)
Yes you are! The whole purpose of playing modes is that have mode 'flavours' in your soloing. Basically, you're still playing the same 7 notes! Looks like you already understand modes, just that it can sound so complicated.
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True that, although your ears would perceive it as the Ionian mode, depending on your note choice/phrasing though.

Anyway one mistake, the soloing method I mentioned earlier isn't modal soloing... modal soloing is a different subject altogether. blush.gif
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What guitar+amp fits the budget of RM800?I'm thinking about the microcube but what guitar is priced at about RM400?I guess my buddy's gotta have to go with some cikai guitar like TGM?

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