I have PANASONIC aircon with ioniser, fan with plasma ioniser and SHARP air purifier but sickness still exist and spread ... don't work imo

Now got new product in market, which ionises food ... there's a booth at IKANO basement level (near IKEA)..... said to be able to get rid of chemicals and harmful elements in raw food eg. meat, fruits, vege, etc. Got pics to show and demonstration too. Very yucky.

Even got booth at IKANO/Curve bridge that produces O2 in water, etc..

Got MEDKLINN product which patented to kill/dispel virus/dust/allergen ..... cost RM600+.




So so many ...... any testimonies that they work or not?

This post has been edited by crazyconsumer: Dec 5 2007, 08:53 PM

Food ioniser is called OKAMIZU.... RM1xxx !!

When u fall sick altho with all these ion stuff, i can only think of 2 reasons.
1) the ions are not powerful enough to deter the sickness
2) the sickness itself cannot be prevented even if ion levels are high.
(Just cos it helps in immune systems and makes u healthier, doesn't mean you can't fall sick. get what i'm saying?)

the MEDKLINN ionizer is very good. ive been using over 1 year plus can really smell difference and air is much lighter/fresher.

highly recommended

I'm using medklin too, I feel the air in my room is lighter, not so heavy life before, dunno how else to describe this.

Also, I think it increased my alertness too.

So unless you live near greenery with big open windows, you know what to do.

Are you selling this product now?

haha no no just thought i'd share my testimony

try Amway's Atmosphere!..
wah that thing..damn powerful and good!

Amway must be expensive. Same mechanism... using hepa filter.

Amway's Atmosphere!. damn expensive....
i am also MEDKLINN user... so far so good.... now use to the smell of it already...so can't feel difference..haha..but initially can feel difference..
it does help.....

Medklinn ionizer confirm around RM600?

Regular price for Medklinn is RM699. If anyone interested to get the Medklinn at lower price, feel free to PM me

Pm me the low price u have... might need 1... and the car ionizer too..

really give + 1 more oxygen?

For more understanding about air purifier, you guys can check it here home air purifiers

anyone heard of a brand named 'shinnyes' b4?

Wah! so many Medklinn kaki here. I am also one la.
I got home and car units.

Ioniser or ozoniser is not everything to keep you from falling ill.
If using all these products can prevent you from falling sick then you will be able to live beyond 100 years. LOL

I just bought one of this Ioniser / Purifier at home.

In regards to cleaning the filters and replace the filters?

The air feels a bit better than usual (is it a placebo effect?), it's kinda costly as well, how much electricity it consumes per month?

Cheers

If you wanna know whether it works, try this

1. Light up a cigarette and pollute the room. Come back in about an hour time and check if you still smell it.
If you do, throw away the ionzer.

2. Place your stinking training glove on the ionizer for a couple of hours. If it still stinks, throw away your ionizer.

Cool, I'll try with my stinking glove.

How about the replacement of filters and stuff?

Medklinn is maintenance free. Those with filters are good when they are new.
Performance declines as they aged. This is what I was told.
That's why I ended up buying Medklinn.

Mine is from Sharp and it is freakishly huge, like those desk fans.

I have used it for 2 days, I think I am getting better sleep as I do have dreams more often for the past few days (albeit they were more nightmares than beautiful dreams.....LOL)

Do you use it in an enclosed area or like a living room? Air con goes well with this?

Cheers

If it is an ionizer it is best used in an enclosed area.
It can't ionize an open area. It has to be concentrated.
It is fine using in an air cond room.

Hi bro,

I plan to buy Sharp air purifier with humidfier feature below. The prob is it dont have ionizer as what medklinn has, so should i get another ionizer on top of the air purifier? Thanks.

KC6400E
PLASMACLUSTER AIR PURIFIER WITH HUMIDIFYING FUCNTION

KC6400E
PLASMACLUSTER AIR PURIFIER WITH HUMIDIFYING FUCNTION

# NEW PLASMACLUSTER ION SHOWER FUNCTION
# ANTI BACTERIA HEPA FILTER
# HEPA Filter: High Efficiency Particulate Air Filter.
# NOISE FREE, ENERGY EFFICIENT INVERTER OPERATION
# Effective against H5N1 virus
# Reduce Floating Mold Spores in the Air!
# Reduce Odor-Causing Molecules!
# Refresh the Air!
# NEW HUMIDIFYING FUNCTION
# Enhance Plasmacluster effectiveness in eliminating viruses & bacteria
# Enhance Plasmacluster deodorizing power
# Prevent dryness of throat, nose & skin


Same function. I don't see why you need Medklinn.

Thanks Bro. Appreciate your info. Will buy it later today.

Folks,

Ionizer works by generating ION and use static electricity to get the dust settled. In Malaysia, due to high humidity, it does not work in most places except enclosed location with air-con on 24/7. So, I failed to see how can you have a ionizer and humidifier working together??

Dreamer

I've been using it for almost one week, I'll like to say it does help with my sinus problem and my eyes. (Although, I never seem to have this problem back in Aussie)

Good thing is that is almost silent therefore it does not interfere with my sleeping.

* Please share your experiences as well be it good or bad.

If you have not bought one, Medklinn is a better choice.

haha this thread make me on back my ionizer......

didn't use it for sometime since i read somewhere that, ionizers might create a layer of ozone(O3) ......forgot wheres the source though...

Been using medklin for more than a year.. now I could hardly notice it's there.

Hi dreamer,

I'm a noob in this air purifier thingy, apperciate ur inputs.

I need a humidfier due to i feel very dry sleeping in air con room. Thus would like a humidfier to ease dry skin, dry throat

Regarding air purifier/ionizer, just want to have a better air quality and gems/bacteria free when sleeping.

If they dont work together, then i need to reconsider as there's a few models that have both air purifier/humidfier function together.

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Added on April 7, 2008, 11:03 pmHi Bro,

Medklinn only release ION to kill gems but it dont actually filter the air right?

This post has been edited by shakiraa: Apr 7 2008, 11:03 PM

Medkilnn is maintenance free. Medklinn brings the dust particles down. You have to sweep or vacuum the dust manually.

Ok. thanks for the info

but got ppl told me tat it didn't have any improvement in long term..

So I assume Medklinn will pass the tests you mentioned?

So the conclusion is..Air-COnds air purifying system is LOUSY and DOES NOT WORK WELl ?? Like those new Panasonic ENvio models or the new LG which you can off the air con and still ON the Ionizer...

Yes. Medkilnn is used in some hospitals and tested by Uni Malaya.

Hmm I'm also wondering the same thing. I was just about to purchse this unit today (new Sharp Humidifier+Purifier... RM1299 smallest model at Best and Harvey) What do you guys think... do you think it is worth buying one with humidifier in malaysia? Humidity is important to prevent skin dryness leading to aging... but this might be more relevant in japan (where this thing is popular) rather than here.

And as pointed out by dreamer101 ... the humidity may interfere with the ionizing function.

Any comments from 'experts'?

Also anyone knows where it is cheap to buy this in Klang Valley? Or is this question forbidden here? (sorry noobie here)

bought it and used it for ~ 3 week already, not recommended to be honest. the humidfier is crap, the water level does not change much, regretted buying it.

i think it's better to buy a separate humidfier if u need one.

and the air purifier is not as strong compared to diamond and york

Mine looks something like this.



I think it helps my sinuses a fair bit. I still wake up too early on the weekend though.

Cheers

There's medklinn kakis and sharp kakis. Any Honeywell kakis? Would like to get some feedback on it and another question, how pricey is it? Thx~

honeywell is noisy according to a friend of mine and sales person, that's why i ended up with sharp

Really? Ooo... looks like its off the list then. Thx~

i'm planning to get few too but still not sure which one to buy.
1 for bedroom and 1 for living room.
seems like only the battle between medklinn and sharp.
if its medklinn then its easy for me coz its only 1 model.
If its sharp, which one should i choose?
any suggestion?
thx

you can also consider York or Diamond, not bad....

i just bought medklinn set with mobile unit too yesterday.
cost me RM1000, still testing it out 13 days to go, if i'm
not satisfy i can return it back and no question ask.

I am using the home and mobile units. I recommended them to my friends and we are all happy with Medklinn. The after service is good too. My home unit KO after 2 years of usage. I paid $100 in exchange for a new one.

This post has been edited by 4Rings: May 20 2008, 08:50 AM

wat about Super 8 ionizer? any user here?

http://www.<link removed>/showthread.php?t=1111

I've also seen some Air Coolers that have Ionizers or something. I was thinking of getting that since I just have to fill in water to make the wind cooling. better than utilizing an aircond.

But, my dad has contemplated that it does not work strongly compared to an aircond. So, i'm abit confused right now.

There's so many brand in the market right some "CLAIM" or "MAY" do ionizer or air purify this and that .. and sometimes misleading advertisement can make a person come up with a funny conclusion. Do some research before buying any air purifier.

But i do reckon that air purifier helps you a lot. I have Extremely sensitive nose and just a simple small air purifier could help you in a way or two but no matter what brand air purifier you need to clean it's filter once a while. I've used an AMWAY air purifier and SHARP air purifier and both are EXTREMELY good brand but so many brands i've seen so far i love AMWAY's the most cuz the HEPA filter is THICK !!! it's extremely THICK, while the sensor I've did my research somewhere AMWAY and SHARP share the same tech. But in the end i've bought SHARP but with constant cleaning while AMWAY was a LOAN unit ..

Aircond don't have the filter like what air purifier have. All they have is just the black netting to filter the dust and it won't 100% filter the dust. And air cond just "conditions" the air to your need ... Not like air purifier it cleans your air (even if you fart a distance away it stills can detect).

I was at first looking at an environmentally friendly solution towards the air cond, so I thought the Air Cooler would be great as it cools the air with water and then purifies the air, as it advertises.

Btw, how much is the Sharp purifier? I only remembered the Air Cooler, that was merely 400 at Harvey Norman. And cheaper at HSL.

Thx for the detailed feedback. I'm a noob, my budget is +-1K, and i don't know which to choose;


Panasonic

or

Sharp

or

Gintell


My wife is pregnant right now, and I want the best for her and the my baby.

Thanks in advance.

To be honest i'll go for reliable brand and easy to find Filter to replace.

I'm not too sure about gintell

Sharp if you can afford the larger air purifier from sharp that is a much better choice the model you mention is pretty small and it's pref. for small rooms and I wouldn't say not suitable for 2-3 people....

Panasonic .. i'm not too sure about this. I also didn't know they make one also hehehe ...

My advice. Goto gintell, or any electronic shop. OPEN and feel the Filter. Check is the HEPA filter thick or not. I remember OSIM air purifiers Filter is THIN like tissue paper. Can see thru ......

wah thanks man..

so its either;

Bigger Sharp

or

Panasonic

i think the Panasonic and the sharp is 999. The Sharp with de-Humidifier is 1199.
But I heard the de-humidifier is rubbish. Need to turn on 24/7 to get the de-humidifier effect.

Sharp with de-humidifier

The built quality also not good. Plastic more like toys...

HAhAHAH ignore the de humid. the BIGGER Sharp is nice ...

My current sharp model is being replaced by this "BIGGER SHARP" .. but do make sure to clean it once a while ...

for air purifier, maybe you all can try out Coway brand. its using HEPA technology as well, and it got 5 layers of filters in it. Just PM me for more info.

hahaha

seems like im becoming a 'bigger sharp' fan now

Panasonic one is very dangerous cause its really good looking. Trying hard not to listen to my wife
Really hope to get feedback from panasonic air purifier user.


thanks for the confident feedback

Your very welcome.

But do go and research. Touch and feel .. hehee .. there's this shop specially sell air purifier .. i dunno what's the name of the shop ...hehehe

tumpang thread for a while, can someone recommend me a good humidfier? since so many experts here now. thanks.

Im just bought Sharp after sold off medklinn..
I do recommend Sharp since its ionizer is better than others. Sharp has own exclusive Plasmacluster which included + and - ion.. I cant stay with the negative ion smell from medklinn.. somemore medklinn used to be on 24 hours a day to produce its effect to kill bacteria.. I like those with fans which can actively filter out the dirt..

I agree with you.

I've just bought the 'bigger Sharp' recommended by MSA.

It is just awesome.

1. I put it in my bedroom and everytime my wife cooking at the kitchen, it will turn on the clean and ion mode automatically. im quite suprise coz i dont even know she is cooking and i cant smell anything.

2. Im not a morning person. but with this thing, waking up in the morning makes me feel happy and motivated. especially after 1 hour queue at the gas station that night

fyi, the model is FUS51ER

cheers

This post has been edited by alfian2: Jun 5 2008, 02:30 PM

Wow thanks guys .....

I was thinking of buying an air purifier and this discussion kinda gave me some clue...

I think I will settle for the Sharp Purifiers

i had once tot of buying sharp purifier, but then i saw their aircond also has a built in purifier plasmacluster..so, since the big purifier standalone one is expensive, might as well (i think, for those who'd want to buy sharp's plasmacluster) buy the aircond unit, which is also servicable i think.. i settled with panasonic inverter air cond with e-ion. at nite its quiet, i use dehumidify mode so that its not too cold, but it has patrol sensor (to see if the air is dirty) and will cllean air/release e ion even if on dehumdifyingmode.. and really is very pwr saving.. and the room smells really clean also.. .. im quite satisfied with it

This post has been edited by fugu199: Jun 8 2008, 11:59 PM

Hey there

Glad you've liked it. I've been using this for quite sometime already and never regreted a little bit. Make sure you at least clean it everyweek / everymonth. You'd be surprised that how much dust that we are breathing in everyday ....


Yes certain aircond are built with these function but honestly they do not perform to the full potential. I'd also have the Panasonic aircond with the extra little stuff but it doesn't really 100% potential to it. And usually air purifier have HEPA filter which aircond usually don't have. So It's always best to have both.

But if you have sinus / breathing problem. Just get an airpurifier with a FAN should do. If not just get an aircond. If you have budget just buy both ..heheh ....

i agree with u MSA. i dont have any sinus problem, but that aircond really sux. im not sure about LG aircond (i heard good feedback) but imagine that the standalone purifier uses really low power consumption compare to aircond. after some calculation, i've just turn on the purifier 24/7 haha.

towels and bedsheet in the room also have no smell anymore. i think i dont have to wash them every week anymore (i actually hate laundry job)

next, i plan to buy another one for the living room

Hi alfian2,

How much you pay for the FUS51ER? I checked Sharp website, there is only FUS51E model, but no FUS51ER. What is the different between with and without R?

Hehehe ... is the "R" the Red Colour Air Purifier ... by sharp ?

its the same actually

I bought at Seng Heng coz they are clearing their stock this month. unfortunately, the black model is not available anymore.

Yeap just makesure when you buy the FILTER is not TORN ... !! very important ..hehehe

And sometimes when they sell clearing stock item MAKE sure it's not the DISPLAY unit .... hehehe .....

I heard Medklinn is going to come out with a more powerful model soon.

- share the love

This post has been edited by sosotomato: Jul 5 2008, 12:54 AM

The mobile unit is more powerful than the home unit simply because the pollution on the road is much greater.

but can't really feel it in the car. so i guess not as good as the room unit. but i gotta vouch for the room unit as it is incredible

My friend's car stinks. After using the mobile unit, the foul smell had disappeared. My car is free from foul smell too.

really ar? my fren bought a new car also and used the medklinn unit in her car but the new car smell was still very strong.

If you are doubtful, then why are you selling?

This post has been edited by sosotomato: Jul 5 2008, 12:55 AM

medklinn make me feel like buying a BMW

sharp fus51er ..... more costly than medklinn...... ?

i guess i have to eat animal blood cook by my mom....will clean the dust in our lung

all tis air purifer can filter many type of things in the air and medklinn only release ion to counter certain type of things.

So you cant compare medlkin and tis other expensive air filter because they do different job.

Hey guys,

I am reading alot people using aircon...I notice i started to get nose problem right after i start to work in aircond room.

From my understanding, the aircond is very dry n very low quality of air. it dry up our nasal(as the specialist doctor claimed).

This come in with the ionizer...it remove the dust...but still it is very dry.

U can buy Sharp purifier with humidifier function but more costly & u need to refill the water in the tank every now and then.

Anyone know how much is Sharp FUS51E? I bought FUS25E at RM649 and I think I will get another FUS51E because the design it great, and it is more powerful also.

Hi guys, I am new to this air purifier thing, but was recently being approach to buy this Diamond air purifier thing at RM590, but I am not sure if it is a good bargain. Heard that it was made by Panasonic, you folks have any comment?

What about super8?

http://www.super8.com.my/index.php?mid=1865

Maybe your sickness was caught outside your home. The Ionisers- Air-filters, depending on their effectiveness, only help clean dust or/and kill viruses inside your room, not prevent you from catching viruses outside your home.

Medklinn also an Ioniser. Maybe more concentrated than most, but still just like other Ionisers. If you don't clean the dust that settless in your room (espc around the unit) regularly, it might blacken the surrounding area. So it's not exactly maintenance free.

Ioniser with filters are easier to maintain because the filters help trap the dust as they ionise and you mostly need to clean the filters.

Sharp Plasma cluster with dehumidifier are not like other Ionisers/Air-purifier. They use patented technology which releases Ions in Clusters and together with water molecules they trap the Viruses and kills them.

Other Air Purifier kills the virus near or around the Purifier unit. But Sharp Units shoots these Plasmaclusters around the room and sort of 'seek' and kill the viruses around the room.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Feb 1 2009, 09:06 AM

For those using sharp plasma cluster. how much is maintenance, ie replacement filters etc and has it broken down on you? looks very hi-tech lar.. scared break down repair expensive..

well just a reminder, ionizer will produce a by-product...can check it out at google. ask when shopping for a air purifier, most important thing is to check the clean air delivery rate and not how much air it can intake. as for plasma cluster if not mistaken it is using plasma to ionized water correct? cant remember well about it already.

anyway there is this technology which ionized water particles and spray it to the air, then it will attract the containminents and particles in the air into the water. But one thing about this technology is that what will happen to the contaiminents and particle when the water droplets dry out? well i think you can figure it out ^^

Please Take Note for ALL Medkiln User,

Many brands of air purifier no matter apply on house, car, or room. Please use properly when you decide buy air purifier. What I can tell is please smell properly on Medkiln product, you can feel is same as Food Ozone Sterilizer smell. They always claim their product is Ionizer but actually is consisting Ozone more than Ionizer. They products are useful but not close with people breath environment. Ozone is can be best or can be bad also. Please DON'T USE for LUNGS PROBLEM or NOSE SENSITIVE because it will increase their problem. All the news from Environment Protection Agency, USA

Please buy from specialist air purifier or ozone company because they can give more professional comments to you all.

Thank you.

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Added on May 24, 2009, 12:18 amI heard my friend said that about Diamond air purifier got problem and not so efficiency because that will flow out the dirty wind on the wall when my friend put close with the wall. He bought 2 units and regret now...hahahaha

But now I heard he bought another is good efficiency more purify layers function and very low maintenance le....

This post has been edited by darren0914: May 24 2009, 12:18 AM

hi mates,got a simple question.
recently we bought a super8 ioniser which model name is (super plasma).according to the information provided,this machine can produce electron ranging from 750 ft-790ft.but my room area is only around 100+- ft,my question is,will the excess electron give side effects since the room is 7times smaller than the room space recommended..
also,there was a setting named 0-ions,what will be the different if i set it to low,medium or high?according to my situation,what kind of setting should be set?
thanks for replying

What ionizer does is ionise the air, so dust tend to stick onto surfaces instead of flowing in the air, so less chance you will inhale them. Ever wonder why in most cars dust tend to stick onto the dashboards evenly? Most car aircondition comes with ionizer.

Air purifier just remove the dust from air, so it improves air quality, by how much depends on the capacity and location mounted.

They don't really kill germs or virus.

how bout the negatively charged ion?according to the super8 itself,some sort of ions produced once there is lightning strike or else thing.whats that actually?

Some info for Negative Ion:

:: Ion Generator generates negative ion, that helps to relieve stress & fatigue, effectively improve diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiovascular and cancers.

:: Negative Ion is a vital element in our respiratory system. It helps in enhancing metabolism and increasing body immune system.

:: Neutralize positive ion, active oxygen, Benzene, Radon, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide and others poison gases in the office.

:: If our body lack of negative ion, it causes headache, giddy, fatigue, constipation, lack of concentration, insomnia and reductive leukocyte.

Sos

agree Ozone not good for health... studied it will coz respiratory problem...

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Added on September 17, 2009, 6:21 pm

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Added on May 24, 2009, 12:18 am
I heard my friend said that about Diamond air purifier got problem and not so efficiency because that will flow out the dirty wind on the wall when my friend put close with the wall. He bought 2 units and regret now...hahahaha

But now I heard he bought another is good efficiency more purify layers function and very low maintenance le....

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MAY I KNOW WHAT BRAND IS YOUR FRIEND BOUGHT? INTERESTED.

This post has been edited by Novel: Sep 17 2009, 06:21 PM

WANNA KNOW MORE THE GOOD EFF ONE

but mecklin is expensive lo. i buy super8 air purifier for car only rm88. can wash the dirt n reuse. for my bedroom only rm388. i wash it 2 weeks one, very powerful n maintenance free.

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Added on September 28, 2009, 10:36 amMalaysia's air is wet, humidifier in not suitable for us, u wan to get "feng sap" miao. if really wan to buy should buy air purifier with ion-negative n ozonne. good 4 our health.

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Added on September 28, 2009, 10:44 ami bought super life few months ago, good products, can clean it ourself, maintenance free.
it produce ozonne to kill bacteria/virus, eliminate unpleasant smell, reduce my sinus.
the ion negative also provided to reduce radiation, give us fresh oxygen and can operate 24 hours. after using it, my family reduce to c doctor. it cheaper than medklinn one, only rm388/=
i found it at www.super8.com.my

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Added on September 28, 2009, 10:45 ammedklinn is expensive lie. super8 cheaper. super drive only rm88

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Added on September 28, 2009, 11:07 amas i know u can turn to low as u like
the low button is operate few minutes n stop few minutes n operate again.
but high button is operate 24 hours non stop.
u can check with them.
as i know they have a website at www.super8.com.my

This post has been edited by kllady: Sep 28 2009, 11:07 AM

How long u bought the super8? i bought super8 for room and car at rm388 last 2 year. car i still using. consider OK.
but the room i send repair many times within the warantty period.

and now is rosak..never think to bring it to repair.

it just produce the ion but did not filter any dust and bacteria..as u can see no filter,no HEPA
yes, u can clean yourself but the quality is very bad...the steel is 'karat' after u used sometimes.

i m waitng my AAF 400A now.