first and foremost, if my battlegroup server cluster is filled with terribads, whats your proof? what do you based it from?
our 2v2/3v3/5v5 top teams are all on 2.5-2.7k and above. while its not BG9 standard with their 2.9k rated teams with a lot of sponsored professional teams playing, you have nothing to claim that cyclone, or any BG group for that matter being terribad.

and what does you having your personal beef against me have anything to do with me, or this thread for that matter? if your somehow butthurt, sore or even jealous of my epeening over the forums, my advice is that you keep it to yourself and not go apeshitting around people's threads. better for yourself as you dont make yourself look like a clown, but also others by not reading your personal hate posts.

also, letme refresh you a bit:





letme highlight the above, especially the one specially highlighted.
and in case you still didnt understand, no, i didnt included arenas.

what does this still mean? yes im still implying that arenas are different and yes BG/World pvp = non factor PVP.
and am i being a hypocrit? dont think so.

As for your comments about arenas being RPS plagued, while i will agree with you on 2v2/3v3 formats, 5v5 format is almost non-existant, especially when you can rotate in other classes should you feel being RPS countered.

Again, if ur butthurt from my gear, team, and my spec, as mentioned above, keep it to urself. And since you even critisize my skill, let me clear this up to you:

first off, i focuses mainly on 5v5, 2v2 and 3v3 is merely for fun and even my 3v3, i run RMP AND rotating with a feral druid time to time, which is arguebly a weak composition. 2v2 i do 2 dps with mage or feral druid but mainly with holy priest (now being disc)

for the main event - 5v5, i run a rather "standard" 2345 setup, but instead of a warrior, im a rogue. and if you've been very keen to the pvp world, rogues run 4dps setup as their main 5v5. so arguebly, a rogue being in a 2345 is a weak composition. so, does that mean that i am actually much more skilled running a supposedly weaker composition?

ill leave that up to you to decide while i mix and match my team compositions to my heart's content and win games.

but comeeeee to think of it. im done being good and continously to let you shit toss in my thread anonymously with 0 credibility. so now,

armory profile?
PTR copy of said profile?

wanna have a dance on PTR?

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Added on December 7, 2007, 6:17 pm^ this guy knows my stuff.

but some correction:
during the last 2ish months, i pvp'ed every day for 20+ hours. so if you count 20x7 thats around 140 hours per week.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 7 2007, 06:17 PM

because there is pvp competition, and hwl grind is basically competing amongst your own faction, a dog eat dog world. the bigger the competition, the more you got to put in.

i avg on 1.5mil-2mil honor gain per week, yet that only puts me around top3 and not even guaranteed number 1 spot. however things werent as bad as it were 2-3 generations before me as theres no "warlord group".
in a warlord group, you kill every competition outside of your group, and then fix standings for everyone within the group. so the ammount of time needed to put in can be reduced significantly.

also, if you didnt know, ratings system in the arenas works on zero-sum gain. the more players, the more gain. add that fact, along with the fact that theres a lot of news spreading that BG9 Asia/pacific team sucks would also be a good deciding factor that most likely ill be getting higher ratings.

better yet, overpopulated and pvp crowded BG means better queues and better queues means more games and that means more ratings. our 5v5 queues can go as high as well... on a bad day, 4-5 hours of queue and 0 games done ftw. you get the idea.

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Added on December 7, 2007, 7:05 pmyea and hes currently wearing pve thats why i didnt comment lol.

with his resil, any team you face with a priest would be utter disaster for ur paladin lol. or lol locks with their op COT and you cant remove it with ur setup. RPS at its best. hence 5v5 is where its at.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 7 2007, 07:05 PM

and ive pointed out in my first post, and along this thread mainly in replying to you, that arena system definitely isnt included. For someone who seems to get off on telling people to read their posts, you don't seem to be doing a lot of reading yourself. See where im getting now?

and no, arenas and all other pvp in this game arent just seperated by a need of different skillsets/disciplines. just the fact that many people if not almost everyone can ace other form of pvp EASILY while not every person get good ratings in arenas is a proven fact. if its just simple skillsets and disciplines then theoretically it shouldnt be world's apart. true, being good at arenas may or may not make you a superior pvper, but being good in bgs or ganking people clearly does NOT make you a good pvper. anyone can do it, simple as that.

and how did i validate what it takes to win in an arena? 5's comes with a 10 man roster, obviously is for you to ultilize it, and by ultilizing it you reduces if not COMPLETELY eliminates the RPS factor. as i said and will say again, 2's and 3's are plague by RPS and even with rotating people you still wouldnt eliminate RPS at all. 5's you can do it due to the larger roster and game play format. and the game is in general balanced around group pvp, not solo/small scale pvp. so unless ur having some serious misunderstanding or lacking reading skills (as proven before anyways) you arent getting anywhere with statements without facts to back yourself up. hell, i can GUARANTEE you, you WONT win by just swapping people if your gonan suck anyways, the advantage of class swapping in 5's is not as significant as say 2's or 3's due to, as i said earlier and will saying again - RPS factor in 5's is very minimal and thus class does not play a critical role. OBVIOUSLY you'd still have to run at least a healer or double healer setup.

And HOW am i making the arena system come off looking bad? imo im rather promoting it even more. probably cuz you cant do good at it thus your making such absurd statements. and hey, since your mentioning about highest level of arena competition (something you're prolly not familiar with and prolly wont ever will), have you EVER seen people stack classes in 5's and got over 2.5k ratings? AFAIK no. even if there is its just that very RARE team running some wierd setup prolly for shitz n gigglez or they just cant find another class to prevent class stacking. main reason for that is that in a larget scale group pvp setup, you'd want to ultilize a variety of ultilizations as you can get, examples would be: mage offering food/water, sheep cc, frost cc etc. rogue offering control through stuns and minor cc through sap/crippling/blind. warrior, thats basically a rogue, does not offer any of those but they offer more consistant dps. and the list goes on. and its up to you to build your own composition based on what you like best/more comfortable with.

again, armory profile? PTR copy? dance? still dodging?

why would you ask this question when the answer is already on my first page? still lacking those reading skills?

and do you realize that arena was only opened around a month'ish+ after TBC released? so you're gonna make a point by bringing in BG9 WSG league during the period that arenas doesnt even exist yet? are you THAT stupid? and if they are still running those funny WSG leagues even on this very day and refuse to arena or being as ignorant as you are, yes im gonna call em out terribads, but i doubt thats the case because its just you being ignorant.

and you wanna know why arena is better? heres a convenient linky from blizz's webby: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/arena/index.xml
HOPEFULLY, you got enough skills to read and comprehend that k?

to answer your question on group swapping, again, i do not deny that it brings advantage, but ive also mentioned that the advantage it brings is no matter what, is still minor compared to your group's gear/skill/ability to co-ordinate and having a good teamwork going on. and the only part that imo makes composition swapping nessesary is that we work differently with different composition. eg: if we run our standard setup we kill clothies etc as priority first. but if we swap in 2 priest for dual PI, mage + lock to benefit it (hell you've read my pvp thread, catch the last week's 5v5) we'll look into nuking paladins/warriors first. in the end if we still suck, we're not only gonna feed the warrior so much rage that he'll just steamroll us, his other members are pretty much left unguarded to rape our FOUR clothies.

since you're also dragging wsvg and dreamhack in. let me ask you this, what do you think about watching arena videos in 5v5 format, compared to videos in 3v3 format? and what is the main concern of those tournament organizers? if you've been REALLY following the tournaments, you'll know that the recent dreamhack is HEAVILY critisized in the allowance of class swapping and even worse, allowing stack classes to be ran in the tournament. so really, why are you making yourself looking so stupid?

to add in to your stupidity, but i have to give you credit in profiling me at least, is that you ran a profile on my guild, without realizing armory updates guild 1-2 days later (or even sometimes longer). so do you wanna armory again to check how many guild members i have right now compared to how many i have previously? and after that, check if there are any level 70 warriors left in my guild? and since you've read my pvp thread (well, why am i even mentioning this since your reading skills arent so bright), have you noticed any mentionings of 2v2/3v3's? AFAIK i dont remember highlighting any 2v2/3v3 progressions other than rating changes or minor happenings as to why they dropped so badly or risen drastically etc. and since you're checking my arena teams, do you see any games been played since last week? and when is the 3v3 played? really, you KNOW EVERYTHING about how myself, my team(s), and my guild functions and operates after looking at armory right? /giggle
just so you still havent get it, yes, my main focus and concern is still first and foremost, and unless blizz makes any drastic changes to 2v2/3v3, will forever be 5v5 arena brackets over 2v2/3v3.

you're not wrong on this statement except 2345 counters most 4 dps team, not just shadow 4 dps team in general. but you also realizes 4 dps teams counter the very standard 2345 dps teams thats consist of warrior + holy paladin + elem shaman + 2x in general? and since you mention that 2345 is to counter shadow 4 dps teams, and that 2345 is more favorable, stronger in general, what kinda setups you think my 5v5's will be facing more? really self biting comments there man. oh yea, check and see if i got any available level 70 warriors in my guild, grats on not even spending the effort to log into an alt and check up the people in my server about my guild/the warrior that you're actually refering to.

lastly, why dodging? does it have to be 1v1 duels on ptr copy? bring your team, 2v2, 3v3, 5v5, i welcome them. and wheres that amory profile? you think you still hold any form of credibility without any of those being brought out the table after im calling you out? think again.

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Added on December 8, 2007, 4:51 pmread the first post and see if its anything special. and what thats been discussed mainly across this thread? yes, thats right, its about "those screenies" being nothing special.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 8 2007, 04:51 PM

so you ran outta rebuttals, and start acting like a retard now? well, ill continue to entertain as usual as i dont just flame, i flame with hard solid facts unlike you



nope, the true BG9/tich craze happened after arenas were out, and thats when the huge peak of transfers were happening with all the sponsorships started occuring. seems like your knowledge of history is failing you. and why beat on the dead horse that is wsg where its non-factor these days? hell, just go tich forums or bg9 forums, and tell em to do wsg because its apparently the kewl thing to do with the whole wsg league and all, and come back with screenshots to see if your getting lol'ed out the forums or not. im sure it'll be entertaining as hell.

and yea, did i claim that the highest level of pvp isnt invitation/money based tournaments? first off, you still fail to see my point, and 2nd'ly, you're contradicting yourself that:
1) you claim the 2v2/3v3 formats of wsvg and dreamhack being the highest level of pvp
2) you claim arena being unfair and shitz and continue to beat on the dead horse that is - WSG

so, which is which?

and once again, when and where i claimed armory sucks? i only mentioned to you that you dont realize that it takes time for armory to update guild rosters. and if you wanna be sure on not getting fired back, you should go the extra length to ensure an accurate data acquisation.

i mean, you do realize what thread title this is right? and now you critisize me on bringing this to PTR? hello?

see, you're disappointing me with every sub-sequent post you make. you run outta content, outta ideas, and outta flame. to the point your spamming your posts with ~~~~~~~ to apparently make you look more intelligent but frankly imo, its only making you look more like a clown than ever.

again i ask, where is your armory profile?
PTR copy?
1v1? 2v2? 3v3? 5v5?

you still believe your words hold ANY value compared to mine? which i display my armory profile for anyone to view. think again buddy.

oh yea, you said last word on ur previous post, why ur still posting anyways? considering:
1) your words still hold no value
2) your running outta content to entertain

GJ, we need more alliance schooling.

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edited for spoiler tag

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 9 2007, 05:15 AM

didnt miss all that much really. just another no-name scrub acting tough.

yeap, continue to attack my ratings where you, until this very minute, here and now, is still a nobody who holds no value in his words. but im very generous, and this is my thread afterall, so ill just entertain you more and feed you more attention since thats what you crave oh so much. I mean, yeah, if all i did was "wanking off my ratings", i wonder how it manages to get towards essay-length posts. i mean, theres a LOT to right about those 4 digit numbers, right? I mean, it HAS to be, somehow.



and quoting your own post:



And a few other minor indications from your posts preaching WSG that is the past and continously down-playing arenas that is the current High-end pvp. I mean, if someone would constantly bead on the dead-horse that is WSG, and continously downplaying arena gameplay, wouldnt it be clear that in his mind the only thing that really matters is WSG? you could at least mention EOTS, AV, AB, or world pvp, but throughout the whole thread, you only argue against me with WSG mainly. If that isnt any clearer i dont know what else is.



why do you need a definition over a simple term? but since you've asked for it, here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/acing
this one is my favorite: a very skilled person <-- lolz.
but hey, i suppose you need more difinitions right? ok, heres my definition of acing pvp outside arenas:
- Winning BG, or better yet, score top w/e you class does (top heals for healers, top dmg/kb for dps'ers etc)
- making successful gankings in world pvp, like um, kill the guy?

based on the above, do you think its REALLY hard to achieve? with or without high ratings, with or without high end pvp gear, with or without a team, a group, or a raid? if you answered yes after all that, then may god save you.



hey, lets just say, hypothetically my BG are ALLLLLLL terribads, and the majority of the asia/pacific players/teams are moved to BG9. but do you realize that, i at least have a standing, even being the best amongst the worst, i have a standing. what about you? you are still no body. you never present anything to back up your claims, your worthless attacks over me, my team, my guild, my server, or my battlegroup. and further yet, even the so-called facts in your posts, are to be taken with a pinch of salt at best thanks to your worthless credibility.

As for my pvp threads, do you know how many PM's, in game pm/mails ive recieved for interests to join the team/guild? and how many of them ever expressed interest to initiate server transfers to join? im SURE you do. but you see, why do i have to invite so many people when all i really need, is 10? and thanks to that, i get to be VERY selective to whom i want to pick. but again, im SURE you've known all those.

And WHY would i leave my server/BG? i mean sure, you are probably correct that i would get more interest, more competition, and no doubt more ratings due to the zero-sum nature of arena gains. But you see, throughout the 3+ years of WoW, ever since closed beta till retail, there are people that still stick around and ive been in touch with them and on occassion even hang out/pve/pvp/chat with them. And thats some of the many benefits of being a server old skooler. But hey, judging the way you've been talking, i guess its just futile to explain all these to you. as you've probably never earned the respect and fame that ive accumulated over these years on the very same server ive set foot on.


and my answer:


and my question of this:

is no doubt, dodged by you in a poor attempt to attack me and my ratings. as seen at:

instead of even making a decent attempt to have a valid arguement/counter of my point. all you do is just dodging dodging and more dodging.


You knew that the biggest push of transfers and the reason of all the hype, yet you still cling to WSG. get over yourself, WSG is the PAST. i mean, ive also dared you to:

i mean, WSG was the sole reason that BG9/tich got so many top pvp'ers around right? go make a level 1 alt so you dont embarrass urself, and link me to the thread you made, i am really interested to see the results. or, you're still gonna dodge?


I mean, you also knew if i did or did not made a level 1 alt to do further check ups right? and/or having friends/guildmates to do it on my behalf. just so you know, unless i have an absolute confidence based on gathered solid information, i wouldnt have had that huge of a set of ballz that would call people out to no end.
As for you, i mean, based on the entire thread, ive gathered 2 facts:
- you're a spineless coward
- you already mentioned being 1-2 season behind me

so even without intel, i would've still dared to take you head on. what do i have to lose? not much besides being made fun of on a forum. and thats provided i lose. while you losing, i would've further strengthen my point and i get full royalty to make fun of you and further entrench my boots into your face thats been so mud covered from the dirtnap you've taken.



i mean, sure. keep on dodging. ive called you out numerous times, without struting my numbers. and you've got all the advantage over me since i have all my details posted all over the LYN WoW boards while i have nothing on you. who knows you might bring a merciless glad with full s2/s3 gear ready to dig me in? but hey, keep on dodging. and whos the immature one wanting the last post? i mean, your the one making a fuss outta it, im merely replying to posts directed to ME, in MY THREAD. i dont see how i am not entitled a reply, and last i checked, the last person who replies is the one that makes the last post. but hey, keep on being immature over such a trivial matter.

i facepalm'ed at the flag caps alliance made.

Since you cant read:


hopefully i dont have to keep on spamming quotes thanks to someone's inability to read from previous posts cause' old posts are just, old. and tasteless.



yeah, ive read it clear that you mentioned proper WSG, but do you realize that, its STILL WSG? im VERY sure that in the dark ages of pvp, 2 shotting people is really a lot of skill right? like hey look, its a GM/HWL running around, /B/moment IMMA BE CHARGIN MY LASERS /b/ and trinket pom pyro for lol 6k 1 shotting a 5k hp rogue or 6k hp warrior, even not dead, being left to burn from ignite/pyro dot. And thats just mages, lets not forget the oh awesome cheapshot death from the tea/renataki rogues (lol i play em so i know exactly how FUN it was to press 1 macro button involving backstab spam using renataki and thistle tea.)

i mean, really, its the same deal as arenas nowdays right?

may i even REMIND you that the best pvp gear is from pve too, not even HWL weapons can withstand naxx gears. and BWL/AQ40 gears are in general much better than the pvp set, hell in some cases such as rogues, even the MC set is better than the pvp set due to the 120 energy bonus. to think you keep on rambling about the old WSG days is pretty hilarious if you ask me.



since you even resort to atk my HWL golden age without even doing background checks on me. here, ill dare you. goto stormscale forum, and ask around how it was during the ages of Quazacolt/Hondow/Malgus HWL group. Let me know if you've been utterly humiliated and laughed on your way out of the forums.



well, no doubt you've been proven to lack reading skills, so i guess ill have to spoonfeed you a lil now dont i? im really wondering what could you ever do, for being a coward, and illiterate. well, at least put in some effort in this then:



hey, at least im not just making baseless sarcastic rebuttals like you here. and at LEAST i can read unlike you thats been proven throughout the thread.



And i should listen to someone that is a spineless scrub? if you're someone thats 2.5k ish rated, i MIGHT actually take that advice and do it already. sadly, you're not that person. and im also sure that im gimping my 5s but at least im even more assured that being in a gimped 5s, i am still better than you and for that i think that will do, i mean, why not? im the one winning matches, you're prolly losing that 10 game each week just for the sake of getting points.

Just a little FYI, i did open warrior recruitment on my thread for months btw, and yes if he is recruited he will be rotating in my place, and i have full trust to my mage/priest to lead my team on in my absence when the warrior is rotating over me. Sadly we're now full and there are no warriors that is equally, and/or better geared/skilled than i am being found, so we'll just have to get over it.

Again, still dodging? wheres the armory profile? PTR copy? perhaps petition towards some mods to get ur gender tag changed, you're quite a disgrace to the male populance.

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Added on December 11, 2007, 12:57 pmnice armory you got there, ditched enchanting for lw or jc on ur hunter?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 11 2007, 12:57 PM

exactly how does killing enemy members not help your faction to win? last i remembered dead flag carriers cant carry flags.



So, even after the hint of the 3 main figureheads of our HWL group back in the days, you still came to the conclusion that ive claimed to solo my way to HWL? Your stupidity never cease to amaze me.

And umm, i REALLY needed to cocksuck my way into the HWL group when im also the lead of it for 1month+ right? I mean, i would have to cocksuck my own d*** if that were to happen, and frankly, i find it a little difficult to happen be it mentally or physically. But then again, i wouldnt know, i figured you might have an idea about it since you brought it up.

And you ALSO apparently somehow spied my life and knew if i did or did not grind my HWL all by myself physically without other people botting my account. Surely, that person also had some sort of voice mask and impersonated my voice over vent too im sure. I mean, i have over 20-30++ people in the old HWL group for about 4-5 generations of HWL's achievers that know how my voice sounds and they all can seriously make a good laugh out of your claims. Get over yourself, some people have the determinition to do it, and did it. OH WHO AM I TALKING TO, thats right silly me, im with a spineless coward right here, sorry MY BAD.

So, still dodging i guess. i really give up on even attempting to further call you. You simply do not have the manhood to make yourself worthy. Until you decide to actually stand up and provide ur fellow lyn wow forumers some base to your postings, you are still nothing but a coward thats making weak rebuttals against someone that at the very least have solid materials to back his words.

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Added on December 11, 2007, 2:56 pm^ QFT.

kurei would've been a much better pvp challenge compared to you despite being a pve focused player thats on tier 6 raiding. he got his armory posted and got his gears and ratings to show (dont matter how low it is, its better than someone that got nothing)

one thing though, imho, armored netherdrake > phoenix. least i can still make children, and STILL have a kick ass mount.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 11 2007, 02:56 PM

dudeeeeee check out the armored versions, they look so MUCH fiercer, and their heads are held up a little bit higher

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Added on December 11, 2007, 3:10 pmstill dodging. why do you even bother to reply anyways? its a little sad to see you continously making mindless futile attempts.

i MAY or may not have the ability to comprehend pre-arena PVP, but really, does it matter? you can go ahead and be all nostalgic and live in the past, me, and almost everyone else in the world will live on the future, thank you very much.

btw, excuses like that only further proves that you're nothing but a coward. not replying that would PROBABLY make you a *TAD* bit tougher, maybe.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 11 2007, 03:10 PM

see, a true man would always conserve his true strength to when he truly needs it. in the netherdrake's case, he will only raise his head when theres a presence of a beautiful female netherdrake around. now you know the secret...

oh and armory isnt science lulz, but id like to believe it is with all the numbers it shows.

and that is not possible because if a man stays errected for 24/7 he will run out of blood throughout the rest of his body unless he wants to be inflated with blood. HAH I BROUGHT SCIENTIFIC TERM INTO THIS.

well. in our modern world, there is ALWAYS solutions to almost everything.

i think you can perhaps try replacing your penis with a bio-mechanical penis, that way, not only it can have a true 24/7 permanent erection, it would have more strength and well, more strength.

care for a PTR run? i would really like to have fun with your teammate boardwarrior.

my main reason is that its too bright for my taste.

sadly a buncha chumps chosen onyx netherdrakes and that totally removed any hopes of being special having the onyx colored drake.

^ at least this didnt disappoint.

but damn retiring? now thats a surprise from the all-star. lulz

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Added on December 12, 2007, 1:31 amnow who is the scrub barking?

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Added on December 12, 2007, 1:32 amread the first thread and it says that ur not good.

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rats, and how could i forget.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...dan&n=Rhythalia
now now, mr. AV all star already quit WoW or something of the sort and went to play REAL PVP guys. so lets try not to laugh at his profile k k?...



JUST KIDDING, LOL @ HALLOWED AND THAT PATHETIC AMMOUNT OF RESILIENCE.

and lets not forget to worship hallelujah haptism, the new emo. they dont cut themselves, they cut YOU! for the lulz.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 12 2007, 01:45 AM

because you cant be a mohawk night elf IRL. Mr. T said so.

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Added on December 12, 2007, 1:46 amtruth hurts

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Dec 12 2007, 01:46 AM