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TSirenic
post Dec 2 2007, 06:48 AM, updated 18y ago

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As requested by some forumers to have an official OC thread for the new ATi radeon, the HD 3850 and HD 3870 so here is the official thread for these new cards so that we can share our oc results, benchies, modding, or any dicussion regarding these cards that is related to OC..
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What's news.. (quoted from ATi AMD Website|:

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ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series – Key Features
PCI Express(R) 2.0 – Get ready for the most demanding graphics applications with PCI Express 2.0 support, which allows up to twice the throughput of current AMD PCI Express cards.

Incredible Microsoft(R) DirectX(R) 10.1 performance – You’ll be blown away by life-like graphics from the latest DirectX(R) 10.1 games, with stunning 3D graphics and shading effects.

320 Stream Processors – More than enough horsepower to support the most demanding graphics applications.

ATI CrossFireX™ multi-GPU – Upgrade to even greater 3D performance quickly and easily thanks to plug-and-play ATI CrossFireX technology with up to quad-GPU support.

Unified Video Decoder – View and manipulate the latest Blu-ray and HD DVD content with a dedicated hardware video decoder that leaves your CPU free to perform other tasks.

Ultimate Image Quality – Performance that rivals high-end HD-DVD and Blu-ray players on displays with resolutions that exceed 1080p – up to 2560x1600.

Integrated Digital Outputs – Enjoy your digital content the way you want to, with built-in HDMI that includes 5.1 surround audio for big screen entertainment.

More Processing Performance per Watt – Get up to twice the Gigaflops per watt of previous generations of high-end AMD GPUs.

ATI PowerPlay™ Technology – power saving features that reduce power consumption at idle or during low-usage

Runs Cool and Quiet – With a smaller chip designed to use less power, your system can take advantage of high-end Windows Vista(R) features while running more efficiently and quieter than ever.



ATi vs Nvidia... on paper

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Driver and bios

Catalyst for Windows XP

Catalyst for Windows Vista 32bit

Bios / OC hotfix (strictly for 3870 only)
Attached File  HD3870_PLLVCO_v010.071.zip ( 64.12k ) Number of downloads: 721


Modded OC bios:
http://www.iax-tech.com/video/3800biosmod/03.htm

Flashing tools:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/Utili...S_Flashing/ATI/

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post Dec 2 2007, 07:00 AM

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now let me post my single and CF results..


Rig spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1426mhz 7-7-7-24
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Single

3870 @ default:
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3870 OC @ 891/1314:
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Rig Spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1339mhz 7-7-7-23
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Crossfire

3870 CF @ default:
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3870 CF @ 820/1250:
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post Dec 2 2007, 10:53 AM

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g0od jobs bro

but still the 3870 CF score kinda lower i believe compared to 2900xt CF which can get 20k score of 3dmark smile.gif


ps: i thought the 2900xt default memory was 2Ghz aite?

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post Dec 2 2007, 11:41 AM

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It's because of the motherboard. The P35T-DQ6 does not offer dual 16x PCI-Ex 2.0...Maybe should replace motherboard with X38 or X48, when there's enough resources for that.


Added on December 2, 2007, 11:43 amAnyone up for setting Dual HD3850 512MB CF-X? I surely want to see the results as HD3850 512MB seems to be the card that offers the best bang for the buck at the moment.

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 07:00 AM)
now let me post my single and CF results..
Rig spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1426mhz 7-7-7-24
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Single

3870 @ default:
Attached Image

3870 OC @ 891/1314:
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Rig Spec:

Q6600 @ 4.01Ghz
Gigabyte P35T DQ6
Kingston HyperX DDR3 1375mhz @ 1339mhz 7-7-7-23
Corsair HX620watt
Sapphire 3870 Crossfire

3870 CF @ default:
Attached Image

3870 CF @ 820/1250:
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good score, bro any comment while playing games? how the fps? if wanna compare to 8800gt sli

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referring to those results i think 3870 CF pawned single 8800 ultra. thumbup.gif

Nice result to share. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ocz @ Dec 2 2007, 12:26 PM)
referring to those results i think 3870 CF pawned single 8800 ultra. thumbup.gif

Nice result to share. rclxms.gif
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ya, it just base on 3dmark score, but when in real game nvidia perform better even 2900xt cf score more then 20k, but when turn in game ati loose, just waiting comment @ post from who hv play game on 3870 crossfire, wanna know did it perform better then sli
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 2 2007, 12:31 PM)
ya, it just base on 3dmark score, but when in real game nvidia perform better even 2900xt cf score more then 20k, but when turn in game ati loose, just waiting comment @ post from who hv play game on 3870 crossfire, wanna know did it perform better then sli
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Thats right bro,Ati lose when playing games like Flight Sim X in overall performance. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 2 2007, 10:53 AM)
g0od jobs bro

but still the 3870 CF score kinda lower i believe compared to 2900xt CF which can get 20k score of 3dmark smile.gif
ps: i thought the 2900xt default memory was 2Ghz aite?
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that for 1gb ddr4 version biggrin.gif

QUOTE(clayclws @ Dec 2 2007, 11:41 AM)
It's because of the motherboard. The P35T-DQ6 does not offer dual 16x PCI-Ex 2.0...Maybe should replace motherboard with X38 or X48, when there's enough resources for that.


Added on December 2, 2007, 11:43 amAnyone up for setting Dual HD3850 512MB CF-X? I surely want to see the results as HD3850 512MB seems to be the card that offers the best bang for the buck at the moment.
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erm yeah.. regarding to cstkl it's bcoz of my mobo.. btw i already have x38.. but i dun have good ram to make it a fair comparison... i'm waiting for ddr3 board coming to m'sia.. x48 perhaps rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Dec 2 2007, 12:09 PM)
good score, bro any comment while playing games? how the fps? if wanna compare to 8800gt sli
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i havent got chance too test this cf with games yet.. so many commitment.. but i still cant compare with 8800gt SLI, coz never try them.. the best is only to compare it with 8800gt single..

maybe others who has try 8800gt SLI can contribute ur result here thumbup.gif
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i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46

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why not try it on vista?

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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM)
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
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41fps for 1920x1200 reso, that very good achievement... ,my lcd reso just up to 1680x1050, so it should get lil higher fps, looks i'm going for cf next year...

thanks bro... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(irenic @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM)
i've just tried crysis and when i asked it to set the graphic to optimal setting, it just detect it as medium spec..
so to make it comparable with my previous 8800gt, where i used high settings, i manually adjust all the settings to high, 1920x1200 and no AA.

specs:

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
3870cf @ default
xp sp2

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz (400x8)
hyperX ddr3 @ 1333 cl7
p35t dq6
Single 8800gt OC @ 700/1750/1800
xp sp2

using fraps to monitor,

avg fps for 8800gt is 26 while 3870 CF is 41..
lowest fps, i notice 8800gt only drop to 23 while 3870 CF drops to 33 (almost 20% performance drop compare to 8800gt 12% ) ..
highest fps 8800gt 31 and 3870 CF is 46
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what about your 1g hd 2900xt? or do you have 2900xt CF for us?
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hmm i'll trt it on vista soon..

sorry the 1gb hd 2900xt i sold edi..

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wow..it doesn't show an impressive result on CF setup, like 8800GT SLI...imatuer of driver? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(168257061 @ Dec 2 2007, 07:40 PM)
wow..it doesn't show an impressive result on CF setup, like 8800GT SLI...imatuer of driver? hmm.gif
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this is such a silly statement.

one that is an impressive result
second nvidia game without a mature driver for sli??...

anyways this is a overclocking thread dudes..
not a discussion about HD3870 vs 8800gt.
or even the performance


this is what i can tell u about the bios

using the stock bios.. even though u cant go more than 862.. but it was gaming stable 862/2500 easy.

with the new bios that overcomes the pll divider... the mem u can overclock so much and very buggy with CF.




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Sapphire 3870 new bios :

1. fixed the 862MHz limit.
2. fixed bugs of the fan speed from always 25%-25% to 35%-50%.

download : http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Dec 2 2007, 08:20 PM)
this is such a silly statement.

one that is an impressive result
second nvidia game without a mature driver for sli??...

anyways this is a overclocking thread dudes..
not a discussion about HD3870 vs 8800gt.
or even the performance
this is what i can tell u about the bios

using the stock bios.. even though u cant go more than 862.. but it was gaming stable 862/2500 easy.

with the new bios that overcomes the pll divider... the mem u can overclock so much and very buggy with CF.
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erm do u mean its better if we dont flash it using the new bios?

QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Dec 2 2007, 09:07 PM)
Sapphire 3870 new bios :

1. fixed the 862MHz limit.
2. fixed bugs of the fan speed from always 25%-25% to 35%-50%.

download :  http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
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thx!! biggrin.gif
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The latest 3dMark06 world record still using HD2900XT.

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