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 Lets Talk Salary! v2, What is the Industry Rate?We Must Unite

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post Feb 3 2008, 09:38 PM


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Salary totally depends on the company one lar. Of course if the big company will be much higher than local company. The best way is to take big big company like Intel to be the benchmark, and those local company will surely pay lower than them, just depends how low they pay. And another factor is also depends on which industry you refering to.

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post Feb 5 2008, 12:16 AM


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I have a few curious questions to ask here about the salary part. Do you guys put in just the basic salary pay, or plus in the allowance? If plus in the allowance, then how do you fix your allowance? Company fix it? Or you just divide it from your annual income?

Because from what i see, got quite a few fresh grad or experience less than 5 years got their pay more than RM10k. So my guess here is they plus in their allowance and some other benefits?

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post Feb 5 2008, 02:25 AM


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All the above jobs. I think the ppl should seperate their basic pay with the allowance. Both are different things and different pay.

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post Feb 23 2008, 10:14 PM


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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Feb 23 2008, 01:14 PM)
sad...

if it is me.. i decline
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Same with me.
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post Feb 24 2008, 12:10 AM


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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Feb 23 2008, 11:21 PM)
sad.....

it this how our freshgrad's thinking now?
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How freshgrad should thinking now and why?
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post Feb 24 2008, 02:54 AM


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QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Feb 24 2008, 02:41 AM)
my parents paid my uni fees totalling around 130k and if i earn 1750.. how long would it take to justify what they paid...

i worked in starbucks and i earned rm6.4k ... go figure
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Exactly the point. You forgot about the living expenses at uni time, i believe it surely more than your uni fees. 1750, either the company not doing good, or they are abusing their employee.


Added on February 24, 2008, 2:56 am
QUOTE(mutt @ Feb 24 2008, 12:17 AM)
freshgrad now can demand high salary? i think with rm1750 plus benefits and allowance already enough for me, at least for the start and that's an average salary for fresh. dont compare with banking or oil&gas industry la...
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did you survey the market price before you say that's the average pay? Anyway, if you are happy with that, then jsut stick with it.

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post Feb 24 2008, 06:05 AM


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QUOTE(mutt @ Feb 24 2008, 05:42 AM)
hmm.. the statistic is from jobstreet.. u will find out that most of the company will give around rm1500-rm2000 to fresh grad.. if u read starjob every sat, the salary will be around that also.. fresh grad working for INTEL also get rm2900. banking field also give around rm2200-rm2800 to fresh grad. so what the heck with your rm6.4k????


Added on February 24, 2008, 5:47 amforgot to mentioned.. my friend (fresh grad) working at sclumberger(management trainee). the pay is rm4900. starbuck really got so many bucks. i wonder if the waiter earned rm2000++ permonth..


Added on February 24, 2008, 5:50 amanother thing to be mentioned, dont tell me that u r working with starbuck in US...


Added on February 24, 2008, 5:54 am
check this out....
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brother.... like you say, intel is paying 2.9k for 1st class grad. Just take that as the benchmark, k? You dont forget intel is in penang, i assume you are at selangor. So your expenses here is higher than penang (dont put in the land property thingy). At melaka, infenion paying 2.6k, same go with NS. And it is in melaka again. Living expenses much lower than selangor. At selangor should be atleast 2.9k. Dont forget intel, infenion, NS's job is office work, no need to travel outside to site. But yours need to travel, go site some more. One simple thing, your company how they count the petrol? Mileage claim or petrol card? If mileage claim, you still might have the chance to cover your maintenance fee. If petrol card, then you have to pay yourself. Atleast you are using the company car. But from what i see, your company most properly will ask you to use your own transport.

Your survey is incomplete without taking account of other stuffs like location and stuffs.

Sorry, i'm not manager or senior, i just same like you, fresh and new.

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post Feb 24 2008, 07:00 AM


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QUOTE(mutt @ Feb 24 2008, 06:36 AM)
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increment of 25%, very unlikely to happen. At mlk, one meal cost around 2.5~3. The distance maximum is 20 minutes drive at mlk with jam.

In the end, if you happy with what you got, then everyone also happy.
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post Feb 24 2008, 07:04 PM


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What i see same as what SeLrAhC see.

Only local, chinaman or taiwanese company give that kind of pay.

Sorry guys, you happy with what you have, then stick with it and be happy with it. That's all i got to say.



Added on February 24, 2008, 7:06 pm
QUOTE(guanteik @ Feb 24 2008, 11:43 AM)
Well said man...
If you know how to hunt... you may get a meal of that price...
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Are you from mlk? Which part of mlk you stay?

That's the average meal cost i am talking about at outside stall.


Added on February 24, 2008, 7:16 pm
QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Feb 24 2008, 09:16 AM)
before look at the salary offered , 1st look at what quality n how much capabilities u hav in u and the potentials of the company tht offer u a job.
A low starting salary doesn't mean a low remuneration 2yrs later, some companies will do huge adjustment when u prove urself worthy n not based on ur background (1st class ? world class uni/col?).

In many cases, fresh grad tend to think a company tht offer low salary is hopeless n one tht offer high salary is the future....give u an example : a MNC offer 1800 for a start but train n groom u well with their training program VS a company tht offer 2500 but require u to immediately perform efficiently.

afterall, how many fresh grads is ready n fit for any job the moment they grad ? give urself 2-3yrs on field b4 u complaint about underpaid.
just my 2cents, not against u or any fresh grad.smile.gif
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How you do justify the company will surely give you huge adjustment after you performing for few years? It can be empty promises and i would say you are talking BS here. Before the company hire you, they already know your capabilities. It is not wait until you enter the company then only know you cannot perform or you are not the person they looking for. If this happened, it is the HR manager's fault and mistake. That's why there are few stages of interview going on to check you out.

What you mean huge adjustment when you prove yourself? You mean give you an 50% increment in your 1750 pay? after you work your a$$ off until midnight for 1 or 2 years time? one time adjustment give you 50% increment is in your dream.

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post Feb 24 2008, 09:44 PM


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QUOTE(mutt @ Feb 24 2008, 08:57 PM)
hello.. most of the companies in malaysia are local, chinaman and taiwanese company ok? be realistic.

so u tell me which company will give u rm5000++ for fresh grads. since im in construction field, give me which construction firms that are so kind to give u such amount...
i assume that rm3 is for rice(50cents)+chicken(1.50)+vegi(50cents)+drink(50cents)=rm3 (really heaven price)
so, for average fresh grads no oppurtunities to work laa.... all grads must be 1st class honoured..

what fresh grads need is experience.. then, up to them whether to demand or jump to other company for better pay. but still 2 years exp already can demand for rm10k? blink.gif  (since one the forumer earned 6.4k. so assume if have 2years exp the salary will be 10k? or higher? shakehead.gif ... oh.. i forgot.. it's starbucks.. got so many bucks for their employee...

huge adjustment doesnt mean to give 50% increment.. maybe get more benefits and remuneration would be better.. and 50% increment from 1750 is 2625.. working for 2 years is possible to get that amount my brother... 100% increment also possible...
last but not least... r u currently working?? so i assume u already met and facing the world..
u show me your payslip here, i'll STFU..
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oh... sorry big boy, sorry for hurting your feeling, i'll STFU here. I take back everything that i sincerely told you and now you can happily stick back with your job there. Good? Btw, i am here to tell you the situation and market. If you cannot take it or dont believe it, then you can treat me as BSing around. For those who are there, they will know what i'm trying to tell. Big boy, open your eyes and see around, how the hell ppl whose age around 25~28 manage to drive a brand new honda civic (or some even more ridiculous to drive BMW) and at the age of 35 owned a few houses? Do you ever think of these questions big boy? And i am not talking about those from rich family, i am talking those who really work themselves up to that level.

Another thing, do you always post up your payslips to the public? Mind show them to us that your honor hard working result? Oh yeah, i am just a secondary school dropout troublemaker and now going around subang area, trying to sell some vcd or dvd smile.gif

Big boy, look at this, the income (monthly i assume, not mine, but friend of mine) of purely pirated industry alone.
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I think it is enough of the issue or honest suggestion towards other's pay. In the end, it is not our business, your money not my money, my money not your money. You stick with yours, i stick with mine. So drop the issue right here.

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post Feb 25 2008, 03:36 AM


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QUOTE(castelloz @ Feb 25 2008, 01:04 AM)
25% unlikely to happen?! Bullshit!
Im just 1 year in IT field(previously zero exp, this is my first job) and I just got incrment 60% for this year..
Starting pay was rm1800, then after 6 months, another adjustment rm400, became rm 2200, then after another 6 months(means I year),
60% increment of rm2200 became rm3500.
So what u wanna say?
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So you are doing SAP, and no long ago you just got the certified, right? So you did not clear your situation here and i believe your increment of 60% is because of previously you dont have the SAP experience or certificate and now you got it like the abaper? So please dont take "without certificate" direct compare "with certificate", it just dont make sense!

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post Feb 26 2008, 01:27 AM


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QUOTE(castelloz @ Feb 26 2008, 12:26 AM)
Who said previously i dont have SAP certificate before joining my current company? My current company is my first company.
Prior to joining this company I already got certified. The 60% increment is not because im certified, but because of my performance feedback was good. The certification is nothing but just like a ticket for freshies to break into sap field without any experiences.
You really dont know what u are talking about dont you?
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hi, let me ask you do you know what are you talking about Mr Castelloz? You are talking you got your SAP and got increment of 60% to rm3500. I am talking about engineering job here and you try take your bloody SAP come to project site and do the project engineer's work? If you got the one time pay increment of 60% for the site work, then i will follow your family name, other wise you throw away your SAP certificate and disqualify yourself from SAP?

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post Feb 27 2008, 08:37 PM


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QUOTE(furryfeline @ Feb 27 2008, 03:57 PM)
i have a diploma in chemical engineering but right now working at a private college as a technician. Initially i wanted to work in a Unit Operations Lab; where i can apply my chemical engineering knowledge (distillation, adsorption, absorption and evaporation unit) but my boss decides to place me in the General Chemistry and Analytical Chemistry Lab. At first i was reluctant but then slowly the interest in the field of applied chemistry come into place and i've grown to appreciate this field.

Since i've been working at the same place for the past 5 years and i've been the unofficial "the go to person for information on analysis",  i decided to upgrade myself academically by pursuing my degree in Industrial Chemistry on a part time basis. Currently the pay is not that bad RM 2.6K per month. My workload is ok. Plus, the office gives me 1 day of study leave per month. My has even assure me of a higher position (Lab Executive) once i complete my degree.

Although age is catching up on me (will be 31 this year) but i enjoy my work!

Just sharing my experience....
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May i know how to you do your part-time study of the degree? What i mean is the Uni, college or institute offer you the course to do part-time study or you request for it? Doing part-time study need to attend class or certain of lecture hours, tutorial hours or certain test paper or final paper to take? How actually it works? You know work is already took most of our time, and hardly can find extra time to attend class. Or the class is at night?
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post Feb 28 2008, 08:59 PM


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QUOTE(furryfeline @ Feb 28 2008, 09:18 AM)
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I seriously respect you. notworthy.gif It is a long road to go and it also test your patient to the max. But atleast in return, it is also indirectly related to your work field as you are conducting on your lab and it is a very good chance to improve your way of thinking in a professional direction, atleast everything you think and say are backed up with facts and prove.

So far only UTM offering part time study course for degree? Did you check out some other institute, college or Uni? And the last question is will it be the same scenario as yours for master degree part time study course?

Keep up with your hard work mate and wish you all the luck~

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post Mar 2 2008, 09:54 PM


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QUOTE(jumajuma @ Mar 2 2008, 04:38 PM)
Age  : 29
Job Title : Senior QA/QC Engineer
Job Desciption : Too many(draft, calculate, inspection, commisioning, document clerk also)
Years spent in company : 1 year
Company : Sdn bhd
Industry : Oil&Gas
Tenure : permanent contract - no epf
Employment Level : Exec
Experience before joining : 6yr Freelance, Short contract employee, sleeping.
salary : RM 5k +transport+phone bill+house+overtime+bonus by project. but no epf
working hour: flexible.. but ot only after 7pm, Sunday off.
what do u all think about my current job?? currently got some offer from oversea company working at Dubai with 3X current salary but only 3 month job. i never working with oversea company. opinion??
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Your company is doing what type of project? Site or office? Construction, machinery, or what? Then the dubai company is doing project? I think you sure what is that company doing right? But i warn you, Dubai, or UAE living cost is not cheap.
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post Mar 3 2008, 08:23 PM


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QUOTE(jumajuma @ Mar 3 2008, 07:15 PM)
more to pipeline construction and plant servicing. Dubai suppose to work with japanese company. but after discuss with my boss(actually he's my friend) i changed my mind already. he had promise me something.
and bro u re rite 15k not worth working there bcoz the living cost very high. but i hope they will counter offer with more higher salary.
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Pipeline builder ah.... hoho, PIG rider here tongue.gif Dun let me catch you do some lousy work here tongue.gif
I heard if want work over there atleast 20~30k only worth it. Donno how truth. Or ask them to free you accommodation, transportation, maid, pay for your tax, free education to your kid and free you air flight back home, then should be ok.
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What is ppp?
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post Apr 1 2008, 09:26 PM


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QUOTE(vkeong @ Apr 1 2008, 04:32 PM)
Did you use your pay in USD and convert into RM?
LOL WUT? My starting pay is only 1.6K

Fresh grads ah, don't be so choosy in your first job. Your first job is for you to gather experience, not for you to earn money for your honda civic

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post Jun 13 2008, 02:12 AM


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Where did you get that information from?
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post Jun 25 2008, 08:12 PM


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dude, like you said, it is CEO position, do you know how big is CEO in company? And trust me, you dont want to know what kind of job function and work load they have.

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