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Drian
post Nov 20 2007, 05:29 PM

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next time portfolio must be 90% blue chip 10% warrant.

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QUOTE(kapitan @ Nov 20 2007, 05:16 PM)
Wah...
Still playing HK CW...

I think HK CW really hard to monitor... up and down fast...
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Up and down significantly will be the syndicate and trader haven, (if got it right, off course lah) no up and down, stagnant one, syndicate and speculators don't like it at all.

Like those blue chips, always stagnant one, people complain cannot move (but actually in longer term, it moves quite signficantly also), so no interest to buy.
While like those 'goreng' one can move significantly in just a few days, then complain too hard to monitor.
(no offence, just try to explain some mentality of the people)

Hard to please everyone, right?

Actually for those playing CW, you must monitor the mothershare movement as well. If mothershare doesn't move, while CW run like crazy, then surely it is doomed. So better watch carefully about the premium, too high premium generally will lead to losses only.

QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Nov 20 2007, 05:22 PM)
me buy sikit sikit nia

if kena burn, also burned sikit sikit nia tongue.gif
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May be you got plenty of 'oil' so can 'burn' longer. tongue.gif biggrin.gif

I did manage to grab some reit today as well.

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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 20 2007, 05:29 PM)
next time portfolio must be 90% blue chip 10% warrant.
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yup, that's one of my target too smile.gif


QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 20 2007, 05:31 PM)
May be you got plenty of 'oil' so can 'burn' longer.  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif

I did manage to grab some reit today as well.
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yah i got a big tangki of oil behind, kekeke laugh.gif

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lemme update the Futures once again before i go home

hmmm Futures drop significant : +52.00

hope everything is o'rite smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2007, 05:51 PM

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Stocks poised to bounce back
Futures gain strength after bargain hunters lead Asian stocks higher, HP posts strong quarterly results.




LONDON (CNNMoney.com) -- U.S. stock futures rose Tuesday as investors eyed gains in overseas stocks and upbeat results from HP ahead of the release of the minutes from the Federal Reserve's last meeting.

Stocks in Asia mounted a sharp turnaround to finish the session higher. The rally helped lift European markets in the early going and could give Wall Street a boost at the open.

Tech stocks are likely to lead the advance, helped by HP (Charts, Fortune 500), which reported a surge in quarterly profit after the market close Monday.

In the broader market, U.S. investors are anxiously awaiting the minutes from the Fed's Oct. 31 meeting, due out at 2 p.m. ET.

Before that report comes out, they'll take in readings on October housing starts and building permits.

Stocks to watch Tuesday include Target (Charts, Fortune 500), Freddie Mac (Charts, Fortune 500), Tyson (Charts, Fortune 500) and Medtronic (Charts, Fortune 500).

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QUOTE(andy888 @ Nov 20 2007, 05:51 PM)
Stocks poised to bounce back
Futures gain strength after bargain hunters lead Asian stocks higher, HP posts strong quarterly results.

LONDON (CNNMoney.com) -- U.S. stock futures rose Tuesday as investors eyed gains in overseas stocks and upbeat results from HP ahead of the release of the minutes from the Federal Reserve's last meeting.

Stocks in Asia mounted a sharp turnaround to finish the session higher. The rally helped lift European markets in the early going and could give Wall Street a boost at the open.

Tech stocks are likely to lead the advance, helped by HP (Charts, Fortune 500), which reported a surge in quarterly profit after the market close Monday.

In the broader market, U.S. investors are anxiously awaiting the minutes from the Fed's Oct. 31 meeting, due out at 2 p.m. ET.
Before that report comes out, they'll take in readings on October housing starts and building permits.

Stocks to watch Tuesday include Target (Charts, Fortune 500), Freddie Mac (Charts, Fortune 500), Tyson (Charts, Fortune 500) and Medtronic (Charts, Fortune 500). 

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Did i just time travelled back OCT 31st?

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 19 2007, 11:44 PM)
Agree cutting loss is a method for those with limited cash. But for me, since those counters that I've got has strong fundamental, going back up is just a matter of time. In the meantime, just take those dividend as a reward. What to do? It's not everyday you can double your earning  sweat.gif . Sometimes just have to satisfy with the dividend. Or when the price is lower, buy back to enjoy more dividend (in term of % theoretically)
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cut loss when there is a better deal .... if you know a stock is for sure will drop for another 2 months, why not just cut loss now and buy 2 months later. there is no room to doubt cut loss strategy, only doubt how to know if a stock will continously go down for how long.

QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 20 2007, 05:29 PM)
next time portfolio must be 90% blue chip 10% warrant.
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should use different accounts to trade stocks and warrant. trading warrants with intraday account is quite an exciting game .... and only do it when you have the time.


Added on November 20, 2007, 6:32 pmanyone got burn by Digi ? see Digi very cham suddenly kena kau kau on this deal ...

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post Nov 20 2007, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(mtsen @ Nov 20 2007, 06:31 PM)

Added on November 20, 2007, 6:32 pmanyone got burn by Digi ?  see Digi very cham suddenly kena kau kau on this deal ...
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Wah, Digi oso can kena goreng? doh.gif
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Hi cherroy and fellow sifus ... need help to understand PE .... again biggrin.gif

Maybank 13.80
AFFIN 14.56
HLBANK 14.86

but
PBBANK 20.35

so base on this PE alone, PBBANK is not as attractive as other banks, is this induction correct ?


Added on November 20, 2007, 6:47 pm
QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Nov 20 2007, 06:43 PM)
Wah, Digi oso can kena goreng?  doh.gif
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not gorent lah ... Digi is forced to reduce precentage, then Digi bought Time 3G, now Minister said Time cannot sell 3G to Digi but Digi already paid Time !?

so today very cham, big correction ... I have seen many technical correction but this one is quite a big joke in biz world I think ...

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Added on November 20, 2007, 6:47 pm

not gorent lah ... Digi is forced to reduce precentage, then Digi bought Time 3G, now Minister said Time cannot sell 3G to Digi but Digi already paid Time !?

so today very cham, big correction ... I have seen many technical correction but this one is quite a big joke in biz world I think ...
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oh wait, this is something new to me! shocking.gif

where can i read more?

today DIGI price dropped, i thought that was because the price has been go all time high since last Thursday, when the news of DIGI buying 3G license from TIMECOM was out, so it is pretty normal, i didn't know there is such a news!

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Futures update : +78.00

stay postive biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Nov 20 2007, 05:13 PM)
hahhaa...u all scared me liao leh...i just started buying sapcres 1st time and u all were saying wanna get rid of it! Hhahaa...dowan to wait until it goreng meh????

anyway...which dividen paying shares worth keeping for long term??? err...those less than RM5.00 one got ar?
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I'm not selling Sapcres until it touches at least 2.50. They have contracts awarded but profits can only be reflected within the next 2 years. Besides, they have other bids for future contracts. I heard goreng Target price is 3.00 but I'm satisfied with 2.50.
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guys wat u think of the new ipo of aeon credit?

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QUOTE(mtsen @ Nov 20 2007, 06:45 PM)
Hi cherroy and fellow sifus ... need help to understand PE .... again biggrin.gif

Maybank 13.80
AFFIN 14.56
HLBANK 14.86

but
PBBANK 20.35

so base on this PE alone, PBBANK is not as attractive as other banks, is this induction correct ?


Added on November 20, 2007, 6:47 pm

not gorent lah ... Digi is forced to reduce precentage, then Digi bought Time 3G, now Minister said Time cannot sell 3G to Digi but Digi already paid Time !?

so today very cham, big correction ... I have seen many technical correction but this one is quite a big joke in biz world I think ...
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For PBBank the reason why the PE is higher is due to them entering china market, so they are expected to grow even bigger. And their EPS growth is more than maybanks which is roughly stagnant.

For maybank , GLC , my guess is most of the revenue are local, and depend a lot on government so they cannot have too high of a PE cause i don't think investors will pay a premium for it.



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can any1 explain to me wat does it mean? i cant get it tongue.gif

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QUOTE(mtsen @ Nov 20 2007, 06:45 PM)

Added on November 20, 2007, 6:47 pm

not gorent lah ... Digi is forced to reduce precentage, then Digi bought Time 3G, now Minister said Time cannot sell 3G to Digi but Digi already paid Time !?
so today very cham, big correction ... I have seen many technical correction but this one is quite a big joke in biz world I think ...
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Any reliable source for this?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Nov 20 2007, 07:50 PM)
Any reliable source for this?
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Meaning... when Digi wanna buy 3G from Time, government keep quiet.... after Digi paid $ liaw, gorvment say cannot,,, hahaha its a good joke lah...

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QUOTE(sharesa @ Nov 20 2007, 07:14 PM)
I'm not selling Sapcres until it touches at least 2.50. They have contracts awarded but profits can only be reflected within the next 2 years. Besides, they have other bids for future contracts. I heard goreng Target price is 3.00 but I'm satisfied with 2.50.
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I wanna sell Sapcres......if Pana's dream come true
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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 20 2007, 07:20 PM)
For PBBank the reason why the PE is higher is due to them entering china market, so they are expected to grow even bigger. And their EPS growth is more  than maybanks which is roughly stagnant.

For maybank , GLC , my guess is most of the revenue are local, and depend a lot on government so they cannot have too high of a PE cause i don't think investors will pay a premium for it.
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PE is a financial calculation only, it does not uniquely give a rating to a company.

Commerz too have high PE about same as Pbbank.

Both are much better compared to MBB and other banks
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QUOTE(mtsen @ Nov 20 2007, 06:31 PM)
cut loss when there is a better deal ....  if you know a stock is for sure will drop for another 2 months, why not just cut loss now and buy 2 months later.  there is no room to doubt cut loss strategy, only doubt how to know if a stock will continously go down for how long.
should use different accounts to trade stocks and warrant.  trading warrants with intraday account is quite an exciting game .... and only do it when you have the time.
That is the reason why I won't cut loss...since we don't know whether we are seeing bottom or there's more to come. Or suddenly it will bounce back.

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