soon GPU going to UUU again too
1st RAM, then SSD, Now HDD Prices
1st RAM, then SSD, Now HDD Prices
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Dec 16 2025, 03:14 PM
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soon GPU going to UUU again too
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Dec 16 2025, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Dec 16 2025, 02:08 PM) The good-old "spinning rust"—commonly referred to as Hard Disk Drives (HDDs)—may be another leg in the depleted computing infrastructure caused by the AI boom. According to DigiTimes, contract negotiations for the fourth quarter of 2025 concluded with traditional HDD prices settling about 4% higher quarter-over-quarter, marking the largest rise in the past eight quarters. That is over the largest increase in recent years, indicating that the demand is again outpacing supply even in the slower storage segments like HDD. The massive demand reportedly comes from particularly strong uptake for desktop 3.5-inch drives in China and continued heavy procurement of high-capacity units by major U.S. cloud service providers and hyperscalers. Capitalism at its best, driven by greed by corportations.In China, there is a preference for domestically produced CPUs and operating systems, combined with an increase in local PC assembly, which has brought HDDs back into first-class role in certain PC configurations after years of being replaced by SSDs. Additionally, concerns about SSD data retention have led some customers and policymakers to favor HDDs for specific workloads. Large cloud operators are also expanding their exabyte-class storage for AI, analytics, and archival needs. Manufacturers report that utilization rates are at or near full capacity as demand extends beyond traditional surveillance and backup applications. Especially with AI infrastructure, storing massive data for model training has prompted AI labs to use some HDD-based storage infrastructure where speed isn't needed. On the pricing front, typical retail indicators confirm this trend. A 3.5-inch, 1 TB desktop and surveillance HDDs are trading up about 4% QoQ to roughly US$53, and 2.5-inch, 1 TB notebook drives are up about 3% to near US$50 per unit. These product classes have seen price increases for three straight quarters, with the most recent quarter the steepest since Q4 2023. Some analysts expect HDD shortages to become more apparent by 2026, and suppliers may prioritize larger, higher-margin data-center customers, which could extend further price pressure into the consumer area. After NAND flash shortage powering SSDs, HDDs are now in high demand and may remain like that for more quarter to come. Companies like Seagate are already investing a ton of resources into HAMR HDDs with the capacity of roughly 55 TB for enterprise. https://www.techpowerup.com/344108/hdd-pric...ortage#comments syukur suda secure 4 x 2b, 2 x 4tb NAS Why not subscribe to Gemini Ai Pro, can get 2TB free cloud storage too. |
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Dec 16 2025, 03:16 PM
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Seagate Ironwolf Nas 3.5 HDD
8TB RM850, good deal? bought 2 for my upcoming NAS set up |
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Dec 16 2025, 03:26 PM
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It's just 4% rise.
In comparison to RAM, those are real rookie numbers. |
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Dec 16 2025, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Dec 16 2025, 02:46 PM) Tipulah. Wolf Warriors said CCP SSDs more reliable than SK Hynix.QUOTE(Computer^freak @ Dec 16 2025, 02:51 PM) You're missing my point, if China can magically increase SSD output, why are they pivoting to HDDs? I'm not saying they can't do it, but I think it will take some time. |
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Dec 16 2025, 03:40 PM
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AI bubble going to burst, many pretenders would collapse, many datacenters would be abandoned or tookover, the last few standing would reap all the fruits. It is getting exciting. Phoenix_KL liked this post
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Today, 12:03 AM
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AI Chip Shortage Seen Pushing Smartphone Prices Higher in 2026
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-chip-shor...-181823863.html |
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Today, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Dec 16 2025, 03:28 PM) Tipulah. Wolf Warriors said CCP SSDs more reliable than SK Hynix. modern dram and nand memory fabs are way more expensive to build and operate than legacy hdd spinning platter factories. Japan and Germany couldnt sustain the capital cost while sustaining a price war, hence why today only three big manufacturers left to corner the market. You're missing my point, if China can magically increase SSD output, why are they pivoting to HDDs? I'm not saying they can't do it, but I think it will take some time. the other thing is that for years HDD demand going down with shift to SSD, likely a lot of underutilized capacity at those Hdd factories. too bad malaysian ones all closed down edi due to chyna. |
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Today, 01:34 AM
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Nvidia reportedly plans 30-40% cut in GeForce GPU production in early 2026
Recent reports have claimed that Nvidia intends to reduce its production capacity for GeForce RTX 50 series GPUs in the first half of 2026. These cuts are reportedly due to shortages of memory, not just GDDR7, but all memory types. https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/n...-in-early-2026/ ![]() |
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Today, 03:47 AM
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The big AI crash may happen sooner than we think. The way all companies pumping in all their money on AI is actually worrisome.
Now is definitely not to time to upgrade or buy a new PC. |
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Today, 04:00 AM
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Today, 04:23 AM
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Today, 04:24 AM
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Dec 18 2025, 12:48 AM) modern dram and nand memory fabs are way more expensive to build and operate than legacy hdd spinning platter factories. Japan and Germany couldnt sustain the capital cost while sustaining a price war, hence why today only three big manufacturers left to corner the market. Sigh. Should have bought that gaming laptop a few years ago.the other thing is that for years HDD demand going down with shift to SSD, likely a lot of underutilized capacity at those Hdd factories. too bad malaysian ones all closed down edi due to chyna. |
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Today, 04:32 AM
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Pax silica will monopolize all data storage. Either you in the circle or you will find it very hard to do AI, even if you got free open source LLMs from CCP.
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Today, 07:14 AM
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Today, 07:19 AM
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All want untung onlylah.. think about it? Raw material still same...
It's AI causing problems for everyone... just let the AI bubble burst lah. In the meantime, go back to burning everything on DVD China see this as opportunity... they will soon flood the market with their cheap memory to get market share... to bring down the price for us to enjoy. This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Today, 07:45 AM |
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Today, 07:25 AM
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hope my pc dont break yet
already good setup for at least 5 more years |
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