i dunno much about UEC pls explain

u say need pass BM, based on which curiculum? if UEC BM standard is so low, then it defeats the purpose

The problem people highlighting is the minority you speaking of. They can bypass BM proficiency because SPM is not a requirement

UEC is not regulated by ministry of education/higher education.

it has ALL THE REASON to cultivate unpatriotic, ungrateful and anti-nationalism people.

That view only works if we are the only universities in the world. Universities world wide WANT students from other countries. If ours do not, then they should!

These students will be studying subjects from their own countries. They may be studying about how India gained independence or how Pakistan was formed. They will be conversant in their own mother tongues. None of these students will be taking courses regulated by our MOE.

What universities in other countries do, is require courses or language proficiency to be demonstrated. They may require certain subjects to be taken. The main aim is for these students to be able to understand their classes and adapt to campus life.

The question is, if you can do that for students from other countries, why can you not do that for students from your own country? That old narrative used to foster fake nationalism will ultimately harm our country more than anything else.

Still no answer for item 1 to 4?

And now resort to rhetoric without substance?

Matrikulasi all ok. Curse all these troublemakers and racist people for god sakes

Well said. It's not that UEC can stop brain drain entirely, but it certainly offers up a relief to the situation by solving it from the bottoms up.

We had English vs 1119 in the SPM level which worked, I wonder if such similar approach can be considered along with solving its difficulties?

But currently, it seems like it will be a loss for our nation & education system. Due to how politicians positioned this (DAP with bad timing, forcing an ultimatum rather than a forum); UMNO / Bersatu / even PKR making it a racial issue does not help.

We shall see in the rounds of chaos, which leader is brave and bright enough to step up and not stir up dust but points to the right direction.

Sabah and Sarawak have some special rights in the constitution.

Also Sarawak has their own state supported universities, so it is less of an issue there.

If I were to hazard a guess, I’d say it is a repeat of the alcohol issue in schools. After all the hoohaa, decision goes stays quo and DAP wins, despite RBA blames MCA for the issues when in BN1.0. See how it was blamed to MCA during that time. So, after working up the Chinese emotions, someone will say ok, acccept but must have BL etc etc. DAP can tabik dada, Anwar becomes hero. 😎

This is oversimplified, but reachable, and funnily somewhat true based on recent events.



Indeed. Your highlight echoes that resolution is discussion and cooperation to make things work, not outright rejection followed by painting it anti-nationalism.

Politician's exposure further turns this into a spiral when the intentions and the starting point is actually progressive; OR at least can be turned into something progressive without affecting nationalism (if some worries about anti-nationalism).

Many blanket suggestions that others gave i.e. Merging / Outright removal does not take into account of things like implementation, logistics, review and governance of the modules or exams, requirements and criterias, or even foreign investments in education or higher education.

Unfortunately, its easy to just paint a short sentence, fill it up with own ideals and blast it out. We can see where the discussion is lacking, and where its focused on.

Until we can have a proper conversation with neutrality and open heart, talks will not work out.

Need more nieve, gullible and poor that can easily be manipulate?

‘Stupid and uneducated’ people preferred, Tunku Ismail told
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ku-ismail-told/
In an excerpt of an exclusive interview posted on the Southern Tigers Facebook page today, Tunku Ismail, who is the Crown Prince of Johor, revealed this shocking answer when he said, “I have questioned a certain important individual, why can’t we improve the education levels?

“The individual answered that it was for two simple reasons, the first is to obtain votes.

“And the second is to make it easy to control the minds of the stupid and uneducated.”

Maybe that's why Helangs & menteri kids goes to international school?
Bila grad, sits in the board of directors in the GLC.
Meanwhile pipits kids sits on delivery bikes?

So does IGCSE unless you say the BM subject taken is sufficient to inculcate patriotism

So issue now is if via UPU or direct intake (With BM and or Sejarah prequisite)

IGCSE already allowed for direct intake.

So for direct intake rubicon dah seberang dah

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Yesterday, 09:59 AM

Actually i understand the fear if its another pathway via UPU

As is already alot of competition for kids who pay their dues in STPM and or SPM

But if any intake as in direct intake also cannot as its "undermining" our education system or setting a precedent i really scratch head. Die already cast, rubicon already crossed cause IGCSE already allowed wei for direct intake. With an SPM BM prequisite

IGCSE history ada skodeng tak before this?

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Yesterday, 10:02 AM

Actually I also don’t agree with IGCSE allowed for direct intake. IGCSE exams are too easy compare to SPM with their straightforward questions. Any Tom, Dick & Harry can score in IGCSE exams.

This post has been edited by blanket84: Yesterday, 10:02 AM

U mean UEC no BM syllabus?

True many parents have said IGCSE is easy but more of the fact its flexible and not one shot 2 weeks SPM do or die

Anyway real action starts for degree prequisite where its A level and STPM. Even direct intake i feel competition for courses like UM engineering is stiff

That one you need ministry people to sit down, benchmark and decide. If they say can, then can lor.

This is just for general intake, I suspect they will also have to look into details of subjects like Mathematics or the hard sciences for specific technical courses.

kesian...

There is, but the question is, is it sufficient or equivalent to SPM or STPM standards? They (Dong Zong and MOHE) really should sit down together, look through, and come to an understanding. Just treat this as a credit transfer exercise. If enough, settle, not enough, require extra courses.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Yesterday, 10:12 AM