Accidentally stumble across this Facebook post.
issit true or false



This post has been edited by MmeBox: Dec 13 2025, 10:11 AM

Tak abis abis

It is minority Chinese Msians that bother about chinese independent school and UEC … parents chose to send their children to UEC knowing the direction of UEC …similar to those international schools and private schools … parents already plan for children to go private U or overseas prior sending kids to independent schools …

Zero expectation from parents …

DAP and MCA so insignificant they politicised UEC … without UEC, they are irrelevant…

TS is a PAS voter all this while. Not in the next GE.

more like UEC passing grade is 65% while SPM passing grade is 30%
i dont know la, if you ask me

go ahead and vote PAS je la TS. why you need to open a sohai thread like this to justify your action?

I dun even know wat is UEC up until now...still dunno

No. That facebook post is very narrow minded and viewed through a racial lens.

Many fair minded Malaysians are concerned about brain drain as well. And that because of this non-recognition we are losing these guys to other countries. That is not good.

How is it that we can offer entry for foreign students, but neglect our own homegrown talents?

What we really should do is look at how we can have this UEC while retaining certain requirements and parity with the STPM. This isn't about ego, race, politics or whatever justification.

The bottom line should be we want the students to be able to adapt to their classes and integrate well into campus life. We want these students to study well, graduate and then give back to the country. To do that Dong Zong and MOE needs to sit down and discuss this properly, make sure they are on the same page.

Otherwise, the racists win.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Dec 12 2025, 10:30 PM

Fight! Fight! Fight!

It's from dongzong's own website.

https://www.dongzong.my/infobook/book/UEC%2...(BM)%202019.pdf

haiya no wonder la why they kpkb, last time i heard ppl take UEC cause they want avoid BM, mana tahu actually go degree faster.

It is the interpretation. If you post something, without putting your own spin on it, then fine.

But read through his words.

Why we need uec?

wasted talent that can be used for the local industry not TAIWAN.
How much multiplier effect from their tax, expenses.

So who actually wan uec? Some or half or all of chinese? They want their own education system? And government have to recognize and provide them jobs after? Which party tak habis habis everyday uec?

I'm addressing the poster saying the one who created the diagram is a dumbass for separating UEC like that, that diagram is by Dongzong. Unironically Dongzong themselves painted UEC as a special pathway.

All this chart shows is that there are a lot of pathways to a degree so what is the problem if there is one more?

xdapat la bypass babai bagero

the real blame should be on the independent school directors. They are businessmen. They want $$$ and contracts. They need students to come to those independent schools. So, they pressure the politicians for favour - to gain UEC recognition.

More students to the independent schools means more $$$

so, there will more school-related contracts be it renovation, softwares, travel-related programmes, etc

A good example is ever wonder why some schools like to organise travel programmes for students? The hint is that some directors are also owners of the travel agencies. And these schools will engage these travel agencies as part of the programme. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

There are so many other school-related contracts that these directors are aiming for.

Kolej Vokasional don't even take SPM, relax je

Why TS disagree at first place?
The writer is cherry picking and ignoring the fact that there are already multiple pathway to university

A-level is neither using BM or follow local curriculum
Matriculation is not standardized nationwide exam
Asasi is individual university set exam

Another case of hypocrisy?

very little take UEC, and among the UEC graduate also very little want to go public university. My sister was a UEC graduate , she went to Taylor full scholarship, she said most of the UEC graduate got scholarship offered by private universities, some go overseas . maybe only that 10% result not so good want to go public universities, and die die send their children to independent school when not rich

U confused. It is recognition so that can enrol in IPTA. Ipts and oversea university widely accepted it

And why related to job? That is tongkat mindset and even IPTA dun provide it

How the 10% derived when option are not even there?

This is consistent with the type of person TS is

how dare you trying to jump over the hurdles

Until now still have people think majority UEC taker don't take spm

malay nativist will always oppose anything not practised by them.

dun recognize UEC only la. heck should just standardize, dun recognize A-levels too.

best is just STPM will do, matriculation also just scrape it.

jaguh kampung ftw..

It is part of globalization after all. Unavoidable trend.

Universities, I suspect, also want to take students from other countries. Murica and Engrand universities are earning big bucks from this.

why sabah sarawak ok but West malaysia cannot ?

This. Only accept other than SPM & STPM from international candidates. Whoever taking something else locally, just let them enroll to private uni.

why they don't ask sabah sarawak recognise UEC?
Since it is against constitution

Meaning Sabah Sarawak committed act that goes against constitution?
Then why no one kena tangkap since what they did already violated constitution?

study and pass certain grade is good enough?

lol. i dont agree if that you guys think.



kek. pls leave malaysia if the above are okay for you guys.

A level does not meet the item 1 to 3 but IPTA accept. So jangan jahil

What UEC goes against rukun negara? Dun spread slandering culture

Item 5 is totally nonsense. UEC already accepted by IPTS and overseas university.

What the chinese wants in Malaysia?

1. Good econ
2. No corruption
3. No bribery
4. Good infra
5. Good education quality
6. Good healthcare

What DAP/MIC fighting for:
1. UEC
2. Chinatown

For me. Without fail, come EVERY ELECTIONS, DAP often ridicule MCA for not able to get UEC recognized. DAP boosted they can do it in 30 days. So I just sit back and watch the watch on how DAP dig their own grave. Good entertainment.

i dunno much about UEC pls explain

u say need pass BM, based on which curiculum? if UEC BM standard is so low, then it defeats the purpose

The problem people highlighting is the minority you speaking of. They can bypass BM proficiency because SPM is not a requirement

UEC is not regulated by ministry of education/higher education.

it has ALL THE REASON to cultivate unpatriotic, ungrateful and anti-nationalism people.

That view only works if we are the only universities in the world. Universities world wide WANT students from other countries. If ours do not, then they should!

These students will be studying subjects from their own countries. They may be studying about how India gained independence or how Pakistan was formed. They will be conversant in their own mother tongues. None of these students will be taking courses regulated by our MOE.

What universities in other countries do, is require courses or language proficiency to be demonstrated. They may require certain subjects to be taken. The main aim is for these students to be able to understand their classes and adapt to campus life.

The question is, if you can do that for students from other countries, why can you not do that for students from your own country? That old narrative used to foster fake nationalism will ultimately harm our country more than anything else.

Still no answer for item 1 to 4?

And now resort to rhetoric without substance?

Matrikulasi all ok. Curse all these troublemakers and racist people for god sakes

Well said. It's not that UEC can stop brain drain entirely, but it certainly offers up a relief to the situation by solving it from the bottoms up.

We had English vs 1119 in the SPM level which worked, I wonder if such similar approach can be considered along with solving its difficulties?

But currently, it seems like it will be a loss for our nation & education system. Due to how politicians positioned this (DAP with bad timing, forcing an ultimatum rather than a forum); UMNO / Bersatu / even PKR making it a racial issue does not help.

We shall see in the rounds of chaos, which leader is brave and bright enough to step up and not stir up dust but points to the right direction.

Sabah and Sarawak have some special rights in the constitution.

Also Sarawak has their own state supported universities, so it is less of an issue there.

If I were to hazard a guess, I’d say it is a repeat of the alcohol issue in schools. After all the hoohaa, decision goes stays quo and DAP wins, despite RBA blames MCA for the issues when in BN1.0. See how it was blamed to MCA during that time. So, after working up the Chinese emotions, someone will say ok, acccept but must have BL etc etc. DAP can tabik dada, Anwar becomes hero. 😎

This is oversimplified, but reachable, and funnily somewhat true based on recent events.



Indeed. Your highlight echoes that resolution is discussion and cooperation to make things work, not outright rejection followed by painting it anti-nationalism.

Politician's exposure further turns this into a spiral when the intentions and the starting point is actually progressive; OR at least can be turned into something progressive without affecting nationalism (if some worries about anti-nationalism).

Many blanket suggestions that others gave i.e. Merging / Outright removal does not take into account of things like implementation, logistics, review and governance of the modules or exams, requirements and criterias, or even foreign investments in education or higher education.

Unfortunately, its easy to just paint a short sentence, fill it up with own ideals and blast it out. We can see where the discussion is lacking, and where its focused on.

Until we can have a proper conversation with neutrality and open heart, talks will not work out.

Need more nieve, gullible and poor that can easily be manipulate?

‘Stupid and uneducated’ people preferred, Tunku Ismail told
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ku-ismail-told/
In an excerpt of an exclusive interview posted on the Southern Tigers Facebook page today, Tunku Ismail, who is the Crown Prince of Johor, revealed this shocking answer when he said, “I have questioned a certain important individual, why can’t we improve the education levels?

“The individual answered that it was for two simple reasons, the first is to obtain votes.

“And the second is to make it easy to control the minds of the stupid and uneducated.”

Maybe that's why Helangs & menteri kids goes to international school?
Bila grad, sits in the board of directors in the GLC.
Meanwhile pipits kids sits on delivery bikes?

So does IGCSE unless you say the BM subject taken is sufficient to inculcate patriotism

So issue now is if via UPU or direct intake (With BM and or Sejarah prequisite)

IGCSE already allowed for direct intake.

So for direct intake rubicon dah seberang dah

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Dec 13 2025, 09:59 AM

Actually i understand the fear if its another pathway via UPU

As is already alot of competition for kids who pay their dues in STPM and or SPM

But if any intake as in direct intake also cannot as its "undermining" our education system or setting a precedent i really scratch head. Die already cast, rubicon already crossed cause IGCSE already allowed wei for direct intake. With an SPM BM prequisite

IGCSE history ada skodeng tak before this?

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Dec 13 2025, 10:02 AM

Actually I also don’t agree with IGCSE allowed for direct intake. IGCSE exams are too easy compare to SPM with their straightforward questions. Any Tom, Dick & Harry can score in IGCSE exams.

This post has been edited by blanket84: Dec 13 2025, 10:02 AM

U mean UEC no BM syllabus?

True many parents have said IGCSE is easy but more of the fact its flexible and not one shot 2 weeks SPM do or die

Anyway real action starts for degree prequisite where its A level and STPM. Even direct intake i feel competition for courses like UM engineering is stiff

That one you need ministry people to sit down, benchmark and decide. If they say can, then can lor.

This is just for general intake, I suspect they will also have to look into details of subjects like Mathematics or the hard sciences for specific technical courses.

kesian...

There is, but the question is, is it sufficient or equivalent to SPM or STPM standards? They (Dong Zong and MOHE) really should sit down together, look through, and come to an understanding. Just treat this as a credit transfer exercise. If enough, settle, not enough, require extra courses.

This post has been edited by loserguy: Dec 13 2025, 10:12 AM