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post Dec 11 2025, 02:05 PM, updated 2d ago

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Ramai marah bila sebut e-invois, SST naik dan LHDN makin agresif tetapi selalunya yang kena tempias saya dan Kementerian Ekonomi sebelum ini, sedangkan semua ini di bawah Kementerian Kewangan.

Dua-tiga tahun kebelakangan ini, peniaga kecil dan sederhana, khususnya dalam komuniti Cina, rasa sangat tertekan: tafsiran cukai kadang-kadang tak masuk akal, kena bayar lebih, tetapi bila terlebih bayar, bayar semula (refund) pula lambat.

Di atas kertas, kerajaan bangga umum kutipan cukai meningkat; di bawah, orang yang bayar cukai rasa mereka sedang diperah. Bila retorik “lawan orang maha kaya” sering digunakan, tetapi kroni lama nampak elok saja berkawan dengan kerajaan, peniaga kecil rasa merekalah yang jadi bola politik.

Selagi cara kita mengutip dan mengurus cukai tidak dirasakan adil dan munasabah oleh mereka, jangan hairan kalau keyakinan pengundi Cina terhadap kerajaan makin menurun.





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post Dec 11 2025, 02:11 PM

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Tapi kalau Songlap & rasuah sangat laju pulak kan.
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post Dec 11 2025, 02:13 PM

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Got some thing more one

Not non wont know one
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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 11 2025, 02:13 PM)
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You referring to Dr Akmal?

Masa masih jadi Menteri dulu, banyak benda kami terpaksa telan.

Saya cerita terus terang pasal satu benda yang saya rasa kerajaan silap baca dari awal: cara kita biarkan episod Dr Akmal Saleh ni “meliar” sejak dua tahun lepas.

Daripada isu stoking, bendera, sampai nada perkauman, semua itu memberi signal yang sangat salah kepada pengundi Cina. Mereka fikir macam ini lebih kurang: “Kami undi kamu, paling kurang bila kami kena hentam, kamu kena berdiri depan dan bela kami. Tapi senyap. Semua orang buat tak nampak.”

Masalahnya bukan Akmal seorang. Bagi saya, ini bacaan politik yang silap. UMNO lepaskan dia mengamuk di bawah untuk kutip balik semangat UMNO lama. Dalam kerajaan, semua pula buat macam tak boleh sentuh sebab kononnya nak jaga “kestabilan”.

Datuk Seri Anwar pula, sebagai ketua Kerajaan Perpaduan, nampak terlalu berhati-hati nak menegur. Apa-apa pun dikira dari sudut macam mana nak jaga kedudukan Perdana Menteri. Bila macam tu, mesej yang sampai kepada pengundi ialah: jawatan lebih penting daripada prinsip.

Pendek kata: saya rasa “damage is done”.

Walaupun selepas itu kita betulkan soal cukai, e-invois dan lain-lain, luka kepercayaan, terutama dalam kalangan pengundi Cina, bukan senang nak sembuh.



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post Dec 11 2025, 02:23 PM

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jangan hairan kalau keyakinan pengundi Cina terhadap kerajaan makin menurun.

but our voter small only, other by large margin 69% !


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post Dec 11 2025, 02:27 PM

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Nonsense and baseless government expenditure, like expensive toilet, Mykiosk.

Failure to continue HSR to Singapore.



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Itu type c everyday also angry, normal. Don't worry so much. They are very pragmatic one. Later tak cukup jumlah then convert like rhiduan tee.

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Hate e-invois
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post Dec 11 2025, 02:31 PM

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so how? any govt also not happy then whats next
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post Dec 11 2025, 02:35 PM

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Akmal ... you can't touch this ....
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honestly i dont know sabah cainis voter think this are important, they just dont want Malaya parti
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post Dec 11 2025, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(etan26 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:35 PM)
Akmal ... you can't touch this ....
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(akmal dancing u can't touch this like hammer)
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Wat he say abt lhdn i hear complen b4
Overestimate above income
Hv to cough up monthly
Then 5figure rayu refund
Kena investigate
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Dec 11 2025, 03:23 PM)
jangan hairan kalau keyakinan pengundi Cina terhadap kerajaan makin menurun.

but our voter small only, other by large margin 69% !
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post Dec 11 2025, 02:56 PM

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Tax refund delay for SME sure is one of the factor

last time opposition also used this to tembak bijan

now since they took over the gov ..somemore the number maintained and/or increased
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Bukan cina je.. menyusahkan semua bangsa bisnes juga kecuali bangla.
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QUOTE(zoozul @ Dec 11 2025, 03:00 PM)
Bukan cina je.. menyusahkan semua bangsa bisnes juga kecuali bangla.
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never heard any complaints from malay, any source?
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:56 PM)
Tax refund delay for SME sure is one of the factor

last time opposition also used this to tembak bijan

now since they took over the gov ..somemore the number maintained and/or increased
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Fact of the matter is the gov spending just one direction
Perah from who? One group of stigmatized rich cinapek bosses running businesses

First they came for the....

Then they came for the....
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QUOTE(Kawekawe @ Dec 11 2025, 02:12 PM)
Jgn silap undi PRU depan
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Lel anybody running business also pening like me, not just the chinese. All the taxes and compliance costs really piles up over time with each small introduction.

Death by a thousand cuts.
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no mention about PADU? chinese happy with PADU?

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i hate PMX so so much

rather have PAS ban this ban that than all his bullshit taxes and systems
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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:23 PM)
jangan hairan kalau keyakinan pengundi Cina terhadap kerajaan makin menurun.

but our voter small only, other by large margin 69% !
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Look at Indo, cina percentage is like 2%, but still they are the boogeyman and scapegoat used by the govt. Already zero rights, anything goes wrong still cina fault lol
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QUOTE(OPT @ Dec 11 2025, 02:05 PM)
True?

Ramai marah bila sebut e-invois, SST naik dan LHDN makin agresif tetapi selalunya yang kena tempias saya dan Kementerian Ekonomi sebelum ini, sedangkan semua ini di bawah Kementerian Kewangan.

Dua-tiga tahun kebelakangan ini, peniaga kecil dan sederhana, khususnya dalam komuniti Cina, rasa sangat tertekan: tafsiran cukai kadang-kadang tak masuk akal, kena bayar lebih, tetapi bila terlebih bayar, bayar semula (refund) pula lambat.

Di atas kertas, kerajaan bangga umum kutipan cukai meningkat; di bawah, orang yang bayar cukai rasa mereka sedang diperah. Bila retorik “lawan orang maha kaya” sering digunakan, tetapi kroni lama nampak elok saja berkawan dengan kerajaan, peniaga kecil rasa merekalah yang jadi bola politik.

Selagi cara kita mengutip dan mengurus cukai tidak dirasakan adil dan munasabah oleh mereka, jangan hairan kalau keyakinan pengundi Cina terhadap kerajaan makin menurun.

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Targeting and blame place on Cina pula. Richfag bisnes melei also marah why no mention pulak Piji.
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Rokek rindu GST

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QUOTE(OPT @ Dec 11 2025, 02:05 PM)
True?

Ramai marah bila sebut e-invois, SST naik dan LHDN makin agresif tetapi selalunya yang kena tempias saya dan Kementerian Ekonomi sebelum ini, sedangkan semua ini di bawah Kementerian Kewangan.

Dua-tiga tahun kebelakangan ini, peniaga kecil dan sederhana, khususnya dalam komuniti Cina, rasa sangat tertekan: tafsiran cukai kadang-kadang tak masuk akal, kena bayar lebih, tetapi bila terlebih bayar, bayar semula (refund) pula lambat.

Di atas kertas, kerajaan bangga umum kutipan cukai meningkat; di bawah, orang yang bayar cukai rasa mereka sedang diperah. Bila retorik “lawan orang maha kaya” sering digunakan, tetapi kroni lama nampak elok saja berkawan dengan kerajaan, peniaga kecil rasa merekalah yang jadi bola politik.

Selagi cara kita mengutip dan mengurus cukai tidak dirasakan adil dan munasabah oleh mereka, jangan hairan kalau keyakinan pengundi Cina terhadap kerajaan makin menurun.

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Rafizi is right, even i'm in the field also find it difficult, many of it SME are one leg kick by 1-2 person. Imagine one has to do hiring, payroll, accounts and compliance etc.

> LHDN tax instalment, over estimate then tax refund take ages to refund, some of my boss company receive tax refund back in year 2019 to 2022 in 5 figures in recent weeks (after sabah election)

> SST wider scope revision, rental pun kena 8%, a lot of tenant make noise and nothing much we can do, just blame PMX lah, only a handful PMK obtain exemption for 1 year or non-reviewable contract like Maxis/CelcomDigi can waive service tax. Ini macam better implement GST at 4-5% lah

> E-invoice, this one supposingly stage by stage, first stage 100mil by year 2024, then 25-100mil by year 2025, then 5-25mil by year 2026, then 1-5mil by year 2027, all of sudden at year 2023 LHDN decide to accelerate it to full implementation by year 2026. That e-invoice portal given free by LHDN is lapsap, use software better and faster. My friend's family has hardware store and having difficulty of getting IC from the customers, some didn't want to co-operate and refuse giving IC number for e-invoice.

> Stamp duty on staff hiring, start on this year, every staff recruit have to do stamping, after that resign also have to do stamping, failure to do stamping will kena RM10k saman yada yada.

LHDN is acting like a big boss and PMX is just letting them do whatever they want, janji more and more tax collection by LHDN, don't forget LHDN staff bonus is depending on the KPI of tax collection, if they manage to hit then more bonus for them, so they will just hentam and collect as much as possible lah, even go court case also they don't care.

Even a lot of business associations approach Lim Hui Ying (deputy FM) highlighting all these issues and she just shrug them off, more LCLY than Anthony Loke. Now after Sabah election they baru realize all their "good work" they have done during this 3 years.


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:56 PM)
Tax refund delay for SME sure is one of the factor

last time opposition also used this to tembak bijan

now since they took over the gov ..somemore the number maintained and/or increased
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Sudah ubah bersih gst
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QUOTE(Selectt @ Dec 11 2025, 03:00 PM)
never heard any complaints from malay, any source?
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Because many malay is in civil services, my boss business circle has some malay bosses in SME as well, they also complain government slow tax refund and swift changes in tax policy.

QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:56 PM)
Tax refund delay for SME sure is one of the factor

last time opposition also used this to tembak bijan

now since they took over the gov ..somemore the number maintained and/or increased
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Back in Bijan time it was GST and tax refund, both sangkut together
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tiba-tiba lapizi sendiri pun lupa he's part of the kerajaan when all these shit happening. So what he did to avoid it? Or he's part of it?

LOL... senang nye.. main exit and mudah lupa. Now ini semua salah department lain.

No wonder when he's in kerajaan, i dont see he did anything.
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QUOTE(mick84 @ Dec 11 2025, 03:52 PM)
tiba-tiba lapizi sendiri pun lupa he's part of the kerajaan when all these shit happening. So what he did to avoid it? Or he's part of it?

LOL... senang nye.. main exit and mudah lupa. Now ini semua salah department lain.

No wonder when he's in kerajaan, i dont see he did anything.
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He ada mention when he was in Cabinet, it is collective responsibility. He also don't want to perceive as PKR no.2 man who voice up and disrupt the unity government alliance. Probably sheraton move has taught them well.

LHDN is still under MOF, whether he ada sound out in cabinet meeting ini saya tak tau lah.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 11 2025, 03:51 PM)
Because many malay is in civil services, my boss business circle has some malay bosses in SME as well, they also complain government slow tax refund and swift changes in tax policy.
Back in Bijan time it was GST and tax refund, both sangkut together
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still about the same ..just instead of quarterly gst upstream tax refund..it become annual

u pay annually and sangkut

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 11 2025, 02:56 PM)
Tax refund delay for SME sure is one of the factor

last time opposition also used this to tembak bijan

now since they took over the gov ..somemore the number maintained and/or increased
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No wonder, jib oso no pay taxes?
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 11 2025, 03:22 PM)
Look at Indo, cina percentage is like 2%, but still they are the boogeyman and scapegoat used by the govt. Already zero rights, anything goes wrong still cina fault lol
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damn i really tot is piji think all this
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 11 2025, 04:48 PM)
Even a lot of business associations approach Lim Hui Ying (deputy FM) highlighting all these issues and she just shrug them off, more LCLY than Anthony Loke. Now after Sabah election they baru realize all their "good work" they have done during this 3 years.
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Sometime forgot sudah tukar deputy FM.

Kek ini Lim se pu pu really kenot, some more previously from deputy education also dunno what happen.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Dec 11 2025, 04:11 PM)
No wonder, jib oso no pay taxes?
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https://www.mof.gov.my/portal/en/news/press...rs-by-this-year

opposition used to raise question on GST tax refund delay

because GST is like you need do account to pay the gst like monthly or quarterly then passdown to next shop owner then u take back whatever u paid

but this get delayed and opposition used this to demonizing GST ; saying bijan songlap the refund go buy diamond ring for rosmah

SST is much better/transparent system ..but somehow

maybe Anwar songlap the refund go "donate" to be hero kot

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Dec 11 2025, 08:24 PM)
https://www.mof.gov.my/portal/en/news/press...rs-by-this-year

opposition used to raise question on GST tax refund delay

because GST is like you need do account to pay the gst like monthly or quarterly then passdown to next shop owner then u take back whatever u paid

but this get delayed and opposition used this to demonizing GST ; saying bijan songlap the refund go buy diamond ring for rosmah

SST is much better/transparent system ..but somehow

maybe Anwar songlap the refund go "donate" to be hero kot
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I see they also joke about tax refund.

Meanwhile, another accounting service company L & Co laughed at the IRB's notification email regarding tax refund.

They wrote:

"The debt is RM400,000, just pay back RM20,000 - then the government tells us to be grateful.

Today a client told me that his tax refund application was approved by the IRB for more than RM400,000.

How much did it come in? RM20,000.

Even funnier, the official IRB email is ready to speak politely:

"To make sure everyone gets a refund, we'll give you 5% back first."

I really laughed.

If I owe you RM400,000, then I only bank in RM20,000, and I say "not everyone gets their money,"

You don't think it's funny either, do you? hmm.gif
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My bet is real reason for 'rasa tertekan' is because cannot evade tax as before. Not because of extra red tape.
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QUOTE(Kawekawe @ Dec 11 2025, 02:12 PM)
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Anyone win also the same. I think bmx have determination to end corruption but he can't face the helangs and cronies alone. See how the luxury tax canceled but vlgt continue u know how weak is bmx in implementing stuff. He only choose those that can be bullied and quickly u turn when facing backlash.

 

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