Ayam got one simpel question to ask why UEC so sensitive between merei ppl and caina pipul.

Why merei die die dont want UEC?

Why caina die die want UEC?

Apa LJ going on here?

One word, racism

Minta penjelasan terperinci.

Siapa racist? Merei or Cina?

there are malay with uec as well
the question is why not UEC ? since UEC is recognized worldwide, many can enter degree year 1 top uni in singapore hk china us etc

Does Chinese really die die want UEC recognition?

ayam cina, ayam dont sapport UEC

The puak that block type C from local U lah, who else. This is a clear cut case, UEC not many ppl take, type C just want to see it symbolically treated fairly

Why recognized O and A level but not UEC?

Melei hardly can answer except say disturb unity
But hey, international school, religion based tahfiz and race based MRSM are here.

So conclusion, hypocrisy, self esteem issue and racism is real

Why?

Maybe they think UEC is not equally accessible for everybody. Maybe they think why do the work twice since got SPM already. So they oppose. Others think UEC cat or SPM cat if can catch rat is good cat. So they advocate for recognition of UEC.

this

You cant stop UEC la even you hate it

Sabah Government officially recognises UEC qualification
https://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news/268742...-qualification/


Sarawak recognises the UEC, and beginning in 2026, students with this certificate will be eligible for our state-owned universities
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...26-says-premier

peninsula
dont worry, almost there already , claimed by many politicians since year.....

Need change kao the Edu Min

see the whole world which country got this kind of education system where there are so many streams?

nak promote unity but do the opposite, those international schools lagi another issue

politician just tryna use this problem to earn credit jer la, MCA 60 tahun handling this also no progress

easy. maruah tercalar

yea selectively recognize lor, reality there different from peninsular

Still need to ask ?

It's just a topic conveniently segregated when viewed under the racial lense (shitstirrer suka ini), when it's just an academic certification much like IGCSE.
Almost all arguments against UEC should be applicable to IGCSE, yet somehow that's not the case.

There is however a real, distinct disadvantage for local university admission / work position due to not focusing on BM or English which is the more widely spoken language in Malaysia.

Here, have a post by Barisan Nasional, the OG fanner of flames:

Tu la ayam konpius why other sekolah agama can OA level can but UEC cannot?

They like to tindas caina ppl isit?

Why caina ppl so weak no protest habis habis, why merei ppl so insensitive?

This merehsia kinda strange place (not sabah and sarawak though)

But isnt O/A level Uk based? Got BM ka in syllabus ( ayam not sure)

Jadi UK based ok, Asia based when its sensitive country like China/taiwan involved tak buli? Apa LJ did i just learn today so mind blown.

UEC more single girls there

How many u piap?

If just see no piap then beta male la tu.( ayam no piap too but thats bekoz ayam no idea wtf is UEC or how da skool look like)

True storeyz

Apartheid.

Even if today ayam PM, i also will not recognize UEC.

Chinese only 20%... how many family send their kids to UEC? and how many who study UEC really need the recognition?? less than 2%?

So as a parti leader, why i want to please 2% and lose over 5-10% of voters?

Yang bising bising recognize UEC tu... tak study UEC pun. They make noise just bcos tak suka DAP.. tu je.

Even in /K, u post chinese article, many of the cina here also dunno how to read it.

This post has been edited by mick84: Yesterday, 03:58 PM

The obessession with UEC is a bit weird if you ask me

Like you said not may cinas take it. And lets face it you take it most probably you bolting for countries like Taiwan.

But why push it for local uni intake? Topkek part is most ppl who are pro UEC you will find them lol-ing at the quality of our local Us

Cant have your cake and eat it man

Vote is the best protest in democracy

Like I said, it's just another form of academic cert., but western punya cert. got the advantage of using english as main medium which is still way more widely used in Malaysia.
IGCSE students if not mistaken are required to take a separate BM/Sejarah paper if they want to join local intakes,
but (some) UEC proposal want to make do without either and terus be 100% equal with SPM certification.

The rest semua racial lense viewing.

Same with Jawi what, just an ancient south-east asia writing system yet bila ministry want to introduce kena fearmonger trying to proselytize nons.
What is actually Sejarah-related subject become Pendidikan Islam-related from all the hoo-haa.

This part

Most students who take this bolting for overseas or likely Taiwan. Most proponents of it you will most probably see dissing local u intake. But why die2 push for it to be used for local u intake.

Students who hedge their bets take both UEC and SPM. My cousins school last time offered both and there were some fellas who hedged their bets to take both which is frankly not bad

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Yesterday, 04:06 PM

I think international schools offer SPM in BM to complement IGCSE subjects iinm

NOt sure if the Cambridge one local universities can recognise but SPM especiall todays SPM i think no issue

ayam dont want diskass, ayam want gaduh
waiting for someone to talk shit so ayam can gaduh

Ayam also cina, don't give a fuck about uec. Why if uec not recognized why the stupid school die die wanna implement? Just do a levels or other private shit they recognize or just go private uni la. I cannot afford to go private schooling also hentam smk aje. So lebih. If the intention was to fuck off to motherland then feel free to leave.

I really dun think cina community obsess with recognition. They just kopitiam talk cock topic when election come.

Yup. I rather put the focus on how to help STPM students to secure local U.
Those who study UEC, already planned ahead, what's next after UEC. Tak payah worry about them.

other country protect and grant minority special rights while here keep on tekan. lulz

what recognize meaning here? can use for apply uni. but if no/ limited quota for uec also same.

My take is rich cina folks who send their kids to UEC is also big part of chinese party fund contributors,
hence making the party having to fight for that interests, cause like you guys said most average chinese also dunno party fighting for whose interest exactly

On the recognition part best guess is they want backup in case their UEC-passed kids actually tak laku under competition so would be nice to have backup pathway locally.

Simple. because they scared UEC students perform more academically well than Diploma/STPM Oren students compete masuk IPTA.

Later every Oren need to work much more harder because UEC student raised the bar.

But UEC is accepted in NTU/NUS / Taiwan / China, somemore most of them get scholarship.

Otherwise is just IPTA staff malas filter students.
Not like masuk UiTM. Syllabus in Uni, unless UKM all English.

historical issue la

gomen wana take over all schools including chinese school + christian school and make them gomen school, then some chinese school rejected, then they become independent school, some independent schools were setup to absorb those who not able to enter gomen school or drop out in the 60s, later they founded own syllabus and exam lo, but UEC not recognised by malaysian gomen but recognise else where.

for me the independent school should force their students to sit for both spm and uec then problem solved :X

but for uni quota is another issue la LOL

STPM is most pity.

Actually, all Malaysians should take STPM before entering University.

Malaysia government should abolish Matrikulasi and UEC.

Let STPM become the only education system for pre-university.

This post has been edited by Srbn: Yesterday, 04:25 PM

You want to send your kids to school where only got Indians n no there type ah??

It been so until matriculation come along

Because we inherited UK Education System since we gained independence.
Even our government formed MPM/STPM, the original UK A-Level papers were "translated to Malay" in the initial years of MPM in 1970s.

Until our MOE / MOHE managed to stand with its own two feet, and create their own papers.

which else u think is always tertindas?

UEC is a 6 years program & most private Chinese secondary schools allow UEC students to take SPM in their 5th year.

Point is, if you're forcing the UEC students to take SPM, then what happens to the final year of UEC? Only exclusively for UEC students that fail SPM?

cause they want Malaysia 1963 to be Malaya (ex-Straits) pre-1957

No one gonna favor STPM, if given a choice, unless you are "poor", or die die ego problem want join STPM, since the education revamp in 2013 to Modular System.

Alot of Malaysian Chinese, rather pay full or find "backdoor" programs to direct enter gov. unis.
Then these few years popped up many IPTA Foundation Program. RM 20k++ for one year scam.
Claimed you score well, maybe can "grant" a backdoor to IPTA... Then mana pula program to new, can't enroll via UPU.
Then still ended up paying unsubsidized tuition fees in Malaysia.

Otherwise, you go Private University's Foundation/Pre-U Program, majority all Malaysian Chinese faces.
Go to any A-Level College in Klang Valley, Johor, Penang, 90% of the people are Malaysian Chinese from SPM/IGCSE.

STPM is par to A level and STPM
It is preU for bachelor degree

syllabus was changed as part of the decades long program to transform Malayan , Sabah and Sarawak cultural and psychosocial identity. ( The stuff behind buku latihan is not an excerpt from the constitution , as an example)

if the UK syllabus was still to be utilized today, the gomen would have collapsed under public criticism in the 80s.

Smart critical minds is something the Malayan syllabus was always designed to avoid.

Also why the elites of Malaysia do not send their kids to be molded under the national syllabus. It is bad, and for everyone that can avoid it, they will .

The effort continues today, as directed by Malaya even though push back is now seen from Sarawak.

This post has been edited by Redhunt: Yesterday, 04:42 PM

I don't understand why they take UEC but want to go local U. Have you seen the syllabus? Semua china focus. History also about China. Language all Mandarin.

Just go apply to Taiwan or China U. Leave the spots for those that study local. So small minority make so much noise.

Haram

basically this

they themselves chose to take UEC instead of the national syllabus, then complain here and there.

DAP always tembak MCA on this..
lagi say vote them in will approve overnight becoz last mile ady
now time to teach them a lesson lor and force them to make good their promise..

here come another question.

half of the students left after taking SPM, if I am the parents, I will think why I pay so much to study at independent school just to take SPM? most who taking UEC perhaps have not thought of what they want.

perhaps they should transform to international school LOL

ask DAPig la why now so diam.

last time every week also uec uec uec.

Other country does not have so many aliran... our education already very special to minority.

Takpe la.. they can send their kids to Sabah Sarawak study, sana recognized.
Kan now all the haters puji Sabah terbaik.. suka Warisan.... is time to go Sabah study liao.

owai.. even Sabahan also wanna stay here.... owai .. no comment.

Kan.. .apa salah SMK... apa salah bahasa... apa cina mau!!!

it was the only pre uni channel until mamakthir intro the best/worst tongkat ever in history of education. only malaysia got this raced based system yo and im not even joking.

same thought, to me, UEC is similar to international school, supposed to take the international syllabus for entry to overseas universities. The only difference is UEC crowd are more of the SOB group to demand recognitions locally.

As a Chinese, would also say independent school syllabus gtfo to private unis la... Make sure if poorfag, be the creme of the crop in your results and curriculum to obtain scholarship.

Nothing wrong, as long they can absorb the content and it resembles most country's High Schools learning outcomes...
Mainly for STEM subjects or Econs / Business Studies / Accounting.

FYI. UEC History is not CHINA focus.

SUEC History - https://uec.dongzong.my/exam-info/examinati...ior/19-shistory

Paper One: Multiple Choice Questions (25%)
Answering time: 40 minutes.
Malaysian History: 10 questions;
Southeast Asian History: 2 questions;
East Asian History: 6 questions;
World History: 7 questions.
Answer all 25 questions.

Paper Two: Structured Questions (75%)
Answering time: 2 hours 10 minutes.
Part A: Compulsory Questions (15%)
1 Malaysian History question is compulsory.
Part B: Essay Questions (60%)
Group A: Malaysian History, choose 1 out of 2 questions;
Group B: Southeast Asian History, choose 1 out of 2 questions;
Group C: East Asian History, choose 1 out of 2 questions;
Group D: World History, choose 1 out of 2 questions

uec? you mean Ultimately Extinct Chinese?

usually those say uec all use chinese, study china history are just follow those racist sentiment LOL

a lot of the chinese independent school study more engrand than smk, exam also in engrand, those use chinese for exam not many of them.

LOL why wanna implement something shitty UEC -- IGSCE lah cukup

What is UEC? Boleh makan ka?

reality is, racial political issue.

1. give up part of the the education control to 3rd party
2. some scare will open another gate in uni, so some people will get less seat in the uni.
3. national language is not part of the core UEC, mean unable to strengthen national language.
bla bla bla.....

but they speak engrand like sheit lul almost all of them around me that went to UEC

English is an option. Mandarin is the de facto language. You really think we don't have kids here Anakk?

But but but rocket last time die die say wanna recognize uec wor.

those go smk also cannot speak good engrand and maray

reality is I know some from ipoh chinese independent school, can't even speak a word of malei :X gg case

This post has been edited by anakkk: Yesterday, 05:14 PM

are you sure all china history? UEC also studied Malaysia history

I no say all but certainly you need to study the 5000 years of china history.

i meet those before.
i also meet some from Johor independent school, can't even speak a malay word.
then he migrated to Singapore already.

i asked him why you never learn, he say his mother told him don't need to learn. lol

UEC tak boleh. But but but A-levels, IGCSC, Ausmat, Canadian Pre-U etc ok pulak......

idk what with cinapek insisting on UEC

UEC tak boleh, do la a levels

why die die must b UEC?

fighting for thi shit aint worth the time

Why need UEC since already have O & A level?

Dude it is just seperate pathway in this diverse world
Just like last time car is black colour only but now varied colour based on preferences

Yes, I'm aware but I don't see how your reply corelates to my post.

I'll be honest; this thread is full of people with 0 experience on what's going on in CIS or UEC. They just want to state what UEC students should do when they're not one in the first place.

With that being said, there are various reasons why some parents / students opt to go to CIS. Some of the forum members in this thread spoke as if all CIS students / parents can be generalised into a specific set of characteristics, like UEC students are rich, or they're being racist & don't want to mix with students of other race & so on so forth.

Some took UEC as an insurance because UEC is considered tougher than our KBSM. Therefore, student will have the option to take the SPM route or resume with UEC in the fifth year.

Fact of the matter is that UEC history syllabus covers the world history more compared to KBSM history syllabus.

This is pure BS LOL. Like I mentioned, this thread is full of people with 0 knowledge about CIS / UEC & just quote hearsays.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Yesterday, 06:12 PM

☝️ I suppork this answer.

But do lar what you wanna do, it seems accepted widely so apa problem?

But don't expect for gov funded local unis to accept if they don't want to.
Everyone got their own criteria. Everyone also got their own free choice to make.



A-Levels. AusMat. SATs. lar
What so hard? 😁

Which part is bs? Not Mandarin? You think we never explore kids study in private Chinese school? Give your source since you so confident.

This question will require one to travel back in time where most /k/tards weren't even born yet. I'll try to be concise but I doubt that people will be bothered anyway.

Generally, Chinese schools were founded way back in the early 19th century by the Chinese immigrants. The buildings were funded by the community because they know education was the shitz & they were like "if the Brits can establish schools like Penang Free School then why can't we?" So they imported teachers from mainland China who handled the syllabus creation & subsequently the standard of exam.

Basically, all the Chinese schools in the early 20th century were private schools & they were happy & dandy to be left alone.

Anyway, due to the development in the mainland where Sun Yat-sen aimed to topple the Qing dynasty & subsequently travelled all over the world trying to obtain overseas Chinese's moral & financial support, the Chinese schools here became radicalised.

British tak suka & want to gain control of these schools by enacting Education Ordinance. After kena bully by the British, came the Japs. After Japs surrendered, in came the PKMs.

So you can see why the Chinese were spooked when the government tried to integrate the Chinese schools & came up with the Fenn-Wu report. The government of that time then responded with the Barnes report that basically called for the abolishment of the Chinese schools. The Razak report became the middle ground that resulted in our education system today where primary schools consists of SRK & SJK but secondary levels are unified with option for vernacular language subject.

To the Chinese (well, not all since many has since became bananas now), this was considered a hijacking of our Chinese schools & education which has been around before SRKs even exist. Anyway, slowly but surely, one by one Chinese secondary schools converted themselves into national type high school, which to some Chinese, was considered as an act of betrayal. There were quite some big hoo-ha where some students, teachers & schools staffs rioted in protest, police got involved, tear gas was released, batons were bashed & that was how we got CIS & UEC today.

EDIT: I studied in SRK / SMK / local uni.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Yesterday, 07:10 PM

yes cannot of coz what make you think we follow china or taiwan edu system?

Source is my son who is studying in CIS. Your source is based solely on your "exploration"?

English is "not" an option. Math & science are taught in both English & Chinese. There are even CIS where they offer UEC syllabus in full English. This is why some CIS have students from Africa, Thailand & more.

Few of your posts here are already full of misconception of CIS / UEC so let's not act surprised, shall we?

This post has been edited by talexeh: Yesterday, 07:06 PM

If thats the case, Why not just take IGCSE? why must UEC?

IGCSE exam is super expensive yo!

And UEC syllabus is 6 years long & covers A level as well. Therefore, UEC student saves a year compared to IGCSE where a student still have to take A level of ~2 years after they finish O level (~5 years).

This post has been edited by talexeh: Yesterday, 07:05 PM

might as well companies terus hire top-tier graduates from China’s leading universities instead, since those universities have strong global rankings, recognised accreditation, and a reputation for producing highly skilled talent.

butthurt ke kenot afford independent skul

hantam UEC but shy to admit SPM level getting shittier

KPM can move the graph of passing mark

Bole amik AusMat str8 after SPM, 1 yr program, then str8 into Uni...




Chinese school very expensive mer? 😁

Which school your kid goes to? Don't need Mandarin? Don't study China history? Give me name I explore more.

Maybe I enroll my kids there then.

whenever talk UEC

sure vtec kicks in

then drag vernacular skul, then drag religion, then say "depa xxxxx depa xxx...." pusing pusing salah dap komunis bla bla bla

nak jadi negara maju konon..sampai 2077 still using this tactic

COLAN7FIRM

This post has been edited by DValentine: Yesterday, 07:12 PM

Nothing about the exam or language. It's all about kita sudah menang.
90% who shout for UEC have nothing to do with it.