UEC is a 6 years program & most private Chinese secondary schools allow UEC students to take SPM in their 5th year.

Point is, if you're forcing the UEC students to take SPM, then what happens to the final year of UEC? Only exclusively for UEC students that fail SPM?

Yes, I'm aware but I don't see how your reply corelates to my post.

I'll be honest; this thread is full of people with 0 experience on what's going on in CIS or UEC. They just want to state what UEC students should do when they're not one in the first place.

With that being said, there are various reasons why some parents / students opt to go to CIS. Some of the forum members in this thread spoke as if all CIS students / parents can be generalised into a specific set of characteristics, like UEC students are rich, or they're being racist & don't want to mix with students of other race & so on so forth.

Some took UEC as an insurance because UEC is considered tougher than our KBSM. Therefore, student will have the option to take the SPM route or resume with UEC in the fifth year.

Fact of the matter is that UEC history syllabus covers the world history more compared to KBSM history syllabus.

This is pure BS LOL. Like I mentioned, this thread is full of people with 0 knowledge about CIS / UEC & just quote hearsays.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 06:12 PM

This question will require one to travel back in time where most /k/tards weren't even born yet. I'll try to be concise but I doubt that people will be bothered anyway.

Generally, Chinese schools were founded way back in the early 19th century by the Chinese immigrants. The buildings were funded by the community because they know education was the shitz & they were like "if the Brits can establish schools like Penang Free School then why can't we?" So they imported teachers from mainland China who handled the syllabus creation & subsequently the standard of exam.

Basically, all the Chinese schools in the early 20th century were private schools & they were happy & dandy to be left alone.

Anyway, due to the development in the mainland where Sun Yat-sen aimed to topple the Qing dynasty & subsequently travelled all over the world trying to obtain overseas Chinese's moral & financial support, the Chinese schools here became radicalised.

British tak suka & want to gain control of these schools by enacting Education Ordinance. After kena bully by the British, came the Japs. After Japs surrendered, in came the PKMs.

So you can see why the Chinese were spooked when the government tried to integrate the Chinese schools & came up with the Fenn-Wu report. The government of that time then responded with the Barnes report that basically called for the abolishment of the Chinese schools. The Razak report became the middle ground that resulted in our education system today where primary schools consists of SRK & SJK but secondary levels are unified with option for vernacular language subject.

To the Chinese (well, not all since many has since became bananas now), this was considered a hijacking of our Chinese schools & education which has been around before SRKs even exist. Anyway, slowly but surely, one by one Chinese secondary schools converted themselves into national type high school, which to some Chinese, was considered as an act of betrayal. There were quite some big hoo-ha where some students, teachers & schools staffs rioted in protest, police got involved, tear gas was released, batons were bashed & that was how we got CIS & UEC today.

EDIT: I studied in SRK / SMK / local uni.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 07:10 PM

Source is my son who is studying in CIS. Your source is based solely on your "exploration"?

English is "not" an option. Math & science are taught in both English & Chinese. There are even CIS where they offer UEC syllabus in full English. This is why some CIS have students from Africa, Thailand & more.

Few of your posts here are already full of misconception of CIS / UEC so let's not act surprised, shall we?

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 07:06 PM

IGCSE exam is super expensive yo!

And UEC syllabus is 6 years long & covers A level as well. Therefore, UEC student saves a year compared to IGCSE where a student still have to take A level of ~2 years after they finish O level (~5 years).

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 07:05 PM

But the post I replied to were asking why UEC instead of IGCSE ma.

What does studying China history have to do with medium of teaching LOL?

Anyway, there are only a few CIS in Penang so you can use your "exploration" skill & see which one offers UEC in English.

Yes.

You were the one who said you wanna enroll your kids in one LOL.

Anyway, sarcasm aside, CIS fee is lower than private / international school so you can see why it's a valid option for some.

I can assure you there are quite a large number of M40 students in CIS.

Still a lot cheaper than a standard kindergarten fees.

Dey, he asks about UEC, not some international / private school. Since when there's UEC for primary school?

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 08:13 PM

This is one of the reasons why some parents opt for CIS. The lowering of our education standard is becoming a concern too great for some to turn a blind eye to.

EDIT: This might mean nothing to you guys but it's quite a big news among parents in Penang when the news got out:

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/06/...e-science-maths

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 08:19 PM

Not sure why you're replying that post of mine with all these.

Since when SJKC costs RM10K - RM15K a year?

Eh I believe you misunderstood me.

I'm pretty sure you're confused.

A student can take the path of SJKC in primary -> UEC in secondary.

Eh, you can question my post but don't la simply accuse me. All the things I mentioned are based on what I read quite some time ago. I'm from Penang where we have quite an extensive first hand account of the four high schools that took part in the student riot around merdeka time IIRC.

Chung Ling, Chung Hwa, PCGHS & Han Chiang.

These schools possess some records of this event & other historical evidences that go back to their founding days. After all, Chung Ling is famous for being the oldest Chinese school in Malaya & the first to join the nationalisation of Chinese schools.

I added some sarcasm into my post because /k/tards has no patience to read wall of texts bro. But I think it makes sense that the establishment of these English schools motivated the Chinese to setup their own schools as well.

Penang Free School was established in 1816. Earliest Chinese school in Penang was around 1819.

No, I was referring to Education Ordinance 1920. Look it up.

Prior to the few years before merdeka, all Chinese high schools were private schools & resisted the government's attempt in nationalising them. However, when Chung Ling's principal accepted federal funding & giving up the country's most senior Chinese high school, it opened up a floodgate. There was speculation that the principal at that time was spooked by the assassination of Chung Ling's previous principal David Chen a few years earlier but no matter what, Chung Ling's "betrayal" resulted in a few years & incidents where students & teachers were targeted by the police & government & all these culminated in the existence of CIS that doesn't follow KPM's syllabus.

I added these because I wanted my story to lend credence that I'm not being biased. If I was from CIS then /k/tards will claim that I was being brainwashed but in fact, these are all from historical records made available here.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 09:17 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong but you must be referring to this passage of mine?
If yes, then the nationalisation of Chinese schools back then wasn't something that happened simultaneously. It started with Chung Ling, which got Han Chiang's Lim Lian Teng furious. IINM, by merdeka, Chung Ling is the only Chinese school that "converted" & they underwent a few years of their students protesting & going against the school administration. After merdeka, more & more Chinese schools accepted nationalisation. Nowhere did I mention that all Chinese schools accepted the government funding. For example, Han Chiang was capable enough to fend off the need to obtain financial assistance from the government.

Among the four Penang schools I mentioned that took part in the riot, PCGHS, Chung Ling & Chung Hwa got nationalised. PCGHS & Chung Ling managed to setup their own private school branch, Chung Hwa did not while Han Chiang stood steadfast.

It was quite a messy situation with a lot of accusations, internal strife among the Jiao Zong organisation, trusted comrades turned heel & more.

Hope this clarifies.

This post has been edited by talexeh: Today, 09:45 PM