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post Dec 9 2025, 11:35 AM, updated 3d ago

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I never get it... Why East Malaysia (Sabah, Sarawak, Labuan) dislike West Malaysia / Peninsular Malaysia?

Both also Malaysia what...
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hating development that goes to klang valley kot.
but then again those service, manufacturing, logistic, construction and high-tech industry give tons of money to the nation, of course gomen going to give more focus.
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Who say we hate each other? TS source dari mana?...owai
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:42 AM

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got hate meh.. i see many east msian come peninsular here also muhibbah je.. many west msia ppl also like east msia food sold here and vice versa
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:42 AM

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east my de milo more expensive than west my lor.
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:52 AM

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Because only west Malaysia has Gardenia.
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post Dec 9 2025, 11:55 AM

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cause it is like a arranged marriage between royal families / dynasties during medieval period

the reason why it is made in those medieval times is still relevant .

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cause racist people are full at WM, got religion fanatic also, then gov no pay 40%,
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Because east blame west no give money to them

Hence got agenda east wanna be stand alone like SG

Indon & pinoy been eyeing for quite long
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Dec 9 2025, 11:42 AM)
got hate meh.. i see many east msian come peninsular here also muhibbah je.. many west msia ppl also like east msia food sold here and vice versa
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my cousin married sabahan last time, other than my uncle/aunty, they dont reserved any table for our robongan lel. meanwhile they reserved tons of table close to pelamin pengantin for their family lel. accommodation, food, transport all sendiri settle.

race dont play a part on this as we all melies.

meanwhile kenduri that we did on our end, many meja reserved for those sabahan family, accommodation prepared lel.

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post Dec 9 2025, 12:00 PM

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Cos corrupt WM leaders control the revenue flow since independence. Money songlap n spent on tongkat benefits mainly WM, n EM remains poor. But things r changing cos EM knows they r the kingmakers now.
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:02 PM

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they think malaya are penjajah
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:03 PM

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Same logic as walaun don’t like DAP , SJKC , PH. Etc
Same tactics but different bogeyman.
They should dislike only BN and Tun M, not west Malaysia as a whole. However, recent concluded state election is good for Sabah. Hope the new government will be less corrupted, the wind of change for good governance is strong and no one can ignore including PMX.

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talak dislike such as west see east straight kasi tikam, while east saw west straight kasi butcher.

tapi suka2 kutuk and kecam shj. see if indo kutuk east or west striaght kena kaw2 balik
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:09 PM

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post Dec 9 2025, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 9 2025, 12:09 PM)
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Thanks Jimmy for inviting. I should correct your term, Sabah/Sarawak does not dislike Peninsula.

The perception of "dislike" is an end product that was brought about by the defense or demands of fulfilling MA63.

- Sabah & Sarawak contributes significant portion of Peninsula's early successes;
- But these 2 states are treated as golden goose in terms of Power (Votes) & Finance (Resources);
- And gets minimal investment and returns in comparison, ultimately left behind economically;
- After which, the 2 states rights are dismissed (Autonomy, Equal partners) - Peninsula people as seen as "Speaking from higher ground towards S&S, after S&S lifted them up";
- Therefore, the sentiment of demanding the return and ratification of the MA63 rights are gaining steam;
- Which then is seen as "dislike" when it is really a combination of "disappointed with" and "had enough of".
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 9 2025, 11:39 AM)
hating development that goes to klang valley kot.
but then again those service, manufacturing, logistic, construction and high-tech industry give tons of money to the nation, of course gomen going to give more focus.
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Thos private company also have good reason to maintain the status quo

They are not looking towards east Malaysia for any development

Just think, one day, gomen want private equities to invest and develop east Malaysia, which may be good to Malaysia as a whole

For sure a lot of these company will feel pressured to pour money they don't feel like worth it
Many would shift out , cause that what's capitalism is
Take what you can, give nothing back
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Dec 9 2025, 11:52 AM)
Because only west Malaysia has Gardenia.
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You are wrong.
Gardenia was set up in Sabah (East Malaysia), then grant the right to West Malaysia to set up Gardenia (KL).
Gardenia Sabah (the original Gardenia) still make and sell Gardenia bread, but not the same as what you eat.

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they think they are superior human being.

west malaysian are inferior.
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:29 PM

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East Malaysians always think that Peninsular Malaysians plundered their wealth.

But they themselves elected those leaders that plundered their wealth. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Dec 9 2025, 12:24 PM)
You are wrong.
Gardenia was set up in Sabah (East Malaysia), then grant the right to West Malaysia to set up Gardenia (KL).
Gardenia Sabah (the original Gardenia) still make and sell Gardenia bread, but not the same as what you eat.
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Yup.
In 1969, Horatio Sye Slocumm arrives in East Malaysia (Sabah) to start a bakery, bringing American baking expertise.
Gardenia bread in Sabah tastes different because it's made by a separate company (Gardenia Food Industries) with its own recipes, ingredients, and operational systems, distinct from the Gardenia Bakeries (KL) that serves Peninsular Malaysia, leading to unique product lines, local adaptations, and different levels of sweetness or texture.

They are legally separate entities with distinct management, resulting in different bread experiences despite sharing the brand name.
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:41 PM

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West destroyed the real inhabitants of the East. It's like a scam.
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(dawnreaver @ Dec 9 2025, 12:29 PM)
East Malaysians always think that Peninsular Malaysians plundered their wealth.

But they themselves elected those leaders that plundered their wealth.  rclxms.gif
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but removing sabah leader under semanjung parti definetely will change the situation, right right?
as if sabah leaders cant just keluar those parties and made a new one if the existing party dont alligned with their principal, cough cough bersatu sabah.

anyway if the state produced tons of hasil, they deserved large part of those hasil.

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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 9 2025, 12:51 PM)
but removing sabah leader under semanjung parti definetely will change the situation, right right?
as if sabah leaders cant just keluar those parties and made a new one if the existing party dont alligned with their principal, cough cough bersatu sabah.
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If only they removed BN in the last election... brows.gif
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post Dec 9 2025, 12:57 PM

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It’s not hate

It’s ENVY

West envy the harmony and toleransi of EAST

East envy of West infrastructure
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cos when your mom sayang your brother more, you jeles and hate her and your bro too LOL
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 12:25 PM)
they think they are superior human being.

west malaysian are inferior.
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Putting misrepresented words into other people's (and stereotyped) mouth

Don't you think that is a little unjust?

Coming from a mod

QUOTE(knwong @ Dec 9 2025, 12:57 PM)
It’s not hate

It’s ENVY

West envy the harmony and toleransi of EAST

East envy of West infrastructure
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@JimmyX

As you can see, is what also contributed to the perceived "dislike".

Sarcasms and refusal to acknowledge what S&S has been contributing to the early successes of Peninsula, in which now is being returned as sarcasms and "envy".
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 12:25 PM)
they think they are superior human being.

west malaysian are inferior.
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Quite the opposite, as an east Malaysian, I always felt west Malaysian look down on us east Malaysian.
Most conversation with them end up sounding like “do you guys still live in trees?” Or “is there clean water etc?” Or “your leaders are so corrupt yet you guys are dumb enough to keep voting them in”

Oh how the wheels have turned
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 9 2025, 01:47 PM)
Putting misrepresented words into other people's (and stereotyped) mouth

Don't you think that is a little unjust?

Coming from a mod
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seeing is believing.

QUOTE(farkingdom @ Dec 9 2025, 01:52 PM)
Quite the opposite, as an east Malaysian, I always felt west Malaysian look down on us east Malaysian.
Most conversation with them end up sounding like “do you guys still live in trees?” Or “is there clean water etc?” Or “your leaders are so corrupt yet you guys are dumb enough to keep voting them in”

Oh how the wheels have turned
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yes now please rejoice....
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 02:03 PM)
seeing is believing.
yes now please rejoice....
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Could you care to elaborate a little more?

As a mod, I believe you would understand few does not represent all, so I am curious to understand, what makes you make such a statement

So far what I have seen is more akin to what farkingdom has described, we feel that we are looked down upon

Rather than we look up on ourselves
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 9 2025, 02:05 PM)
Could you care to elaborate a little more?

As a mod, I believe you would understand few does not represent all, so I am curious to understand, what makes you make such a statement

So far what I have seen is more akin to what farkingdom has described, we feel that we are looked down upon

Rather than we look up on ourselves
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especially when u go to brunei...

east malaysian working there are so full of themselves..


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Since when colonial subject like coloniser?


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Because ignorant people who act holier than thou are annoying.

West Malaysians that want to reverse their own brain washing and learn about themself and the East I have no problems

You start acting like we owe you being part of MY, kindly fuck off
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they kena brainwashed till believe peninsular songlap all their money
while their own songlap till lap mulut with cash buat tak nampak
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 02:07 PM)
especially when u go to brunei...

east malaysian working there are so full of themselves..
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I don’t really know anyone in my circle that works in Brunei so it must be very rare.

Most I know work in SG.

And some of them are also full of themselves when they come back to Malaysia for holidays. So it’s not an east Malaysian thing but more like a personality thing of certain individuals.
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Hate means jealousy. But east Malaysians oni got themselves to blame because of their refusal to grow and improve their lives, instead of fully depending on politicians.
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 02:07 PM)
especially when u go to brunei...

east malaysian working there are so full of themselves..
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But how does that translate into "All" East Malaysians?

Wouldn't that be an extreme case of generalizing a few to all?

Somemore your situation stated its in Brunei, rather than in Sabah & Sarawak
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 9 2025, 02:37 PM)
But how does that translate into "All" East Malaysians?

Wouldn't that be an extreme case of generalizing a few to all?

Somemore your situation stated its in Brunei, rather than in Sabah & Sarawak
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i also went to kk and kuching...

i had first hand experience of people there...

well i have traveled close to 60 countries in the world but didnt know we can find them in our own backyard
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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 9 2025, 11:35 AM)
I never get it... Why East Malaysia (Sabah, Sarawak, Labuan) dislike West Malaysia / Peninsular Malaysia?

Both also Malaysia what...
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Basically State level NEP "Rich" Borneo need to support "poor" West.

Borneo themself got a lot of poor people but still kena force to sponsor development of West.




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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 12:25 PM)
they think they are superior human being.

west malaysian are inferior.
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They dont. its the west who sucked the wealth from them.
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Dec 9 2025, 02:24 PM)
Hate means jealousy. But east Malaysians oni got themselves to blame because of their refusal to grow and improve their lives, instead of fully depending on politicians.
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Not when they were reduce from "Equal partner" to one of 13 state
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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 9 2025, 04:35 AM)
I never get it... Why East Malaysia (Sabah, Sarawak, Labuan) dislike West Malaysia / Peninsular Malaysia?
Simple answer. When in 2018 Sarawakian did not vote for DAP, WMsian calling Sarawakian stupid. You like those who call you stupid just because you did not vote for them?

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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 9 2025, 04:35 AM)
I never get it... Why East Malaysia (Sabah, Sarawak, Labuan) dislike West Malaysia / Peninsular Malaysia?
Here is another simple answer. WM trying all sort of ways to bring race and religion politic into EM. Trying to get the Christian to go against Muslim.

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Apart from West Malaysian being racist and religious zealots,

another factors to hate the West Malaysian are there is no IKEA in Sabah & Sarawak, and no roti Gardenia

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QUOTE(Lesane @ Dec 9 2025, 03:02 PM)
Not when they were reduce from "Equal partner" to one of 13 state
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In WM oso got many individuals who worked hard with not much assistance to come up in life. Nobody owes anybody anything in life. Their leaders actually reflect their own mentality, because the leaders are born from among the people.
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east malaysia dont hate west malaysian la, come live here and experience our suffering is okay we love
we just hate that projects all goes to west malaysia, no pm ever big project here like we dont exist, like we dont need all the train like there's no ktm here, like how we need more money than the west malaysia and then didnt realise just to bring things from the west already cost more, ofkoz la we need to spend more money just to operate here, like that the west masih mengira duit, when we have more people and more land here. cant compare the state hospital budget here vs state hospital in the west, and then say why we spend more damn it
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 02:07 PM)
especially when u go to brunei...

east malaysian working there are so full of themselves..
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this come to my mind

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QUOTE(billylks @ Dec 9 2025, 03:08 PM)
Apart from West Malaysian being racist and religious zealots,

another factors to hate the West Malaysian are there is no IKEA in Sabah & Sarawak, and no roti Gardenia
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sabah got own gardenia, just not the same taste, no buns no twiggies like in the west
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only the politician hate each other. we rakyat all hidup aman damai
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When Singapore left Malaysia , seat allocation in parliament for Malaya auto become 2/3

2/3 seats means Malaya got auto veto power in parliament

This mean Malaya can approve what ever they want in parliament and east Malaysia cant zhut about it
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QUOTE(kons @ Dec 9 2025, 02:41 PM)
i also went to kk and kuching...

i had first hand experience of people there...

well i have traveled close to 60 countries in the world but didnt know we can find them in our own backyard
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This must be unfortunate and a bad experience for you

But let me urge you to give a second chance to reconsider or maybe for us to change your mind

Because, I am quite certain that most Borneon (S&S) does not sound or even behave like that

Anyhow, let me apologize for your bad experiences, you definitely did not deserve bad hospitality

QUOTE(RGRaj @ Dec 9 2025, 03:23 PM)
In WM oso got many individuals who worked hard with not much assistance  to come up in life. Nobody owes anybody anything in life. Their leaders actually reflect their own mentality, because  the leaders are born from among the people.
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Disagree. It could be right that, one nobody owes anybody anything in life.

But this is different. MA63 is an actual binding agreement that needs to be upheld. You don't get to decide how much suffering then only can be considered as suffering.

And when you talk about suffering, did you mean those that still have to take 2 hours of boat journey to seek medical assistance and get education?

Do you mean those that still cannot get clean water supply despite multiple promises from PMX and past PMs?

Are you just going to blame it on local politicians again?

Despite having taken the wealth of Sabah & Sarawak for decades via attempts to consolidate power in federal level? Projek IC?

Again. Your statement, is one that provokes anger and discontent towards peninsula.

That dismissive and self righteous attitude.

Walk the talk. Come live in pendalaman and take 2 hours of boat ride to town for paracetamol for a few years. Then I will acknowledge your so called "suffering".

Otherwise, I will just consider your statements selective attention.

QUOTE(darosha @ Dec 9 2025, 03:28 PM)
east malaysia dont hate west malaysian la, come live here and experience our suffering is okay we love
we just hate that projects all goes to west malaysia, no pm ever big project here like we dont exist, like we dont need all the train like there's no ktm here, like how we need more money than the west malaysia and then didnt realise just to bring things from the west already cost more, ofkoz la we need to spend more money just to operate here, like that the west masih mengira duit, when we have more people and more land here. cant compare the state hospital budget here vs state hospital in the west, and then say why we spend more damn it
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Exactly, when some talk about suffering, its as if they really did suffer.

Have to work OT to make ends meet? Good for you, people here can't even get a proper job.

Easy for them to highline all suffering when they are in the comforts of an air conditioned room with 24/7 power.

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meaning they are also not as diversified and inclusiveness as claimed to be la....
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QUOTE(RGRaj @ Dec 9 2025, 03:23 PM)
In WM oso got many individuals who worked hard with not much assistance  to come up in life. Nobody owes anybody anything in life. Their leaders actually reflect their own mentality, because  the leaders are born from among the people.
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The hasil bumi belong to the Borneo people, if i am not wrong MA 63 basically signed with promise Borneo (Sabah) entitle for 40% of the net federal revenue collected from the state. after the 1st review (1969), Federal ( WM) never conducted the final review to confirm it and dragged their feet.

It not about assistance its about you robbing their state but never gave them their share of the profit.

When MA63 was signed Sabah & Sarawak were consider as partner meaning equal status but in 1976 (amendment the Consit) to list them as state rather than equal.

You are talking a totally different thing.

Do note Borneo cant do much because in Parliament they are outnumbered by WA MP.



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QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 9 2025, 03:04 PM)
Simple answer. When in 2018 Sarawakian did not vote for DAP, WMsian calling Sarawakian stupid. You like those who call you stupid just because you did not vote for them?
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now dap lost also they call sabahan stupid LOL
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long long time ago, many high high ppl tell u what si right and wrong, what is brown, black and yellow, ehat is east amd west, north and south, then everyday they compare compare and whisper in ur ear, slowly u mah listen listen and brainwashed liao lo
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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 9 2025, 12:35 PM)
I never get it... Why East Malaysia (Sabah, Sarawak, Labuan) dislike West Malaysia / Peninsular Malaysia?

Both also Malaysia what...

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SS have autonomy and they control 100 % immigration.

big cultural difference , ex can party with tapai , nod.gif

so end of day same same . west hate east vice versaa.




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QUOTE(JimmyX @ Dec 9 2025, 11:35 AM)
I never get it... Why East Malaysia (Sabah, Sarawak, Labuan) dislike West Malaysia / Peninsular Malaysia?

Both also Malaysia what...
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Because of ignorant West Malaysians like you, especially coming from the Kiasu Kiasi and Kiamsiap state
azack
post Dec 9 2025, 04:51 PM

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Brought up with the "propaganda" by politicians of WM gather their wealth and many issues, project IC, illegal logging...
Some r facts particularly in previous yrs shortchanged by BN government, but some issues unable proof and charge in court...white hair for example. The politicians all blame WM of all the issues, even until now.

machomama
post Dec 9 2025, 05:50 PM

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lesser n lesser job opportunities now for WM ppl in S&S
as they start taking more of their own ppl to fill up positions
which is really good but tough for those in semenanjung seeking
ThirdSon
post Dec 9 2025, 05:56 PM

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From: kota kinabalu


went to Labuan a few years back, had a chat with a 40'ish Labuan uncle in a coffeshop..

ask where i was from, i answered i'm from KK..

and he goes "oh! orang sabah!"



i thought to meself WTF!



 

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