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post Dec 3 2025, 05:25 PM, updated 2d ago

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Families of 3 shot dead want PM's intervention, royal commission of inquiry


PETALING JAYA: Families of the three men shot dead by police in Durian Tunggal, Melaka, on Nov 24 want Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to intervene and convene an urgent meeting with the Home Ministry, saying the incident warrants nothing less than a Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI).

Lawyers for Liberty (LFL) lawyer Rajesh Nagarajan said the gravity of the evidence, including a 13-minute 53-second audio recording capturing the moments leading up to the deaths of the three men, demanded immediate action from the highest levels of government.

“We urge the prime minister to step in, order an urgent meeting with the Home Ministry and consider establishing an RCI.

"This is not a shootout, it's an execution. The truth must be uncovered,” he said at a press conference at the LFL office today (Wednesday).

The families of the deceased — M. Puvaneswaran, 24; M. Pushpanathan, 21; and G. Logeswaran, 29 — echoed the call, saying they no longer trusted the police to conduct an impartial investigation.

At the press conference, LFL and non-government organisation, Agamam Ani, played the recording, captured by Logeswaran’s wife, Jayasri, 31, who had remained on a call with him until the moment gunfire rang out.

Agamam Ani founder Arun Dorasamy said the audio contradicted the police’s account, adding that the trio had been heading to Kuala Lumpur for a special 48-day religious prayer observance, not to commit burglary.

In the recording, Logeswaran is heard telling his wife that an unmarked Perodua Aruz had been trailing them. She repeatedly urged him to head to the nearest police station.

Minutes later, their vehicle stalled. The call then captured shouts, commotion and pleas for help.

One of the men can be heard saying: “Jangan, saya ada anak” (Please don’t, I have a child) — just before loud, rapid bangs consistent with gunshots, rang out.

Agamam Ani’s appointed forensic scientist, G. Venodthan, CEO of Thistlegorm Forensic, said the audio contained no sounds indicating the presence, handling or use of weapons, contradicting reports that the men had attacked police with machetes.

“There is absolutely no audible indication of the victims attacking officers. No sounds of struggles. The men appeared confused but compliant,” he said.

He said the only audible references were to a vehicle bonnet and a walkie-talkie.

This assessment contradicted earlier media reports stating police had seized machetes from the scene.

Calling the incident “an execution”, Arun said the families now possessed what they described as unprecedented evidence of police wrongdoing.

“For the first time, we have real-time audio capturing the immediate lead-up to a police shooting. It debunks the narrative that the men attacked officers. The public can hear for themselves what happened,” he said.

Arun said the forensic findings, together with post-mortem reports showing downward bullet trajectories, further supported the conclusion that the men were shot while restrained.

“It is very obvious that all of them must have been kneeling down. This must have been an execution-style killing. That is the only way it would make sense that a bullet travelled top-down from the nose and lodged in the heart,” he said.

Arun added their timeline reconstruction showed:
1.38am — Puvaneswaran shot
1.39am — Pushpanathan shot twice
1.40am — Logeswaran shot after pleading “jangan…”

He said the recording suggested the men had already been restrained when shots were fired.

“There was no threat that justified lethal force. Public confidence has been shaken,” he said.

Puvaneswaran and Pushpanathan’s parents, who were also present, broke down when the recording was played.

Jayasri, who brought along her four-year-old daughter, was visibly shaken.

Trembling as she spoke to the Press, she said she had replayed the audio countless times since her husband’s death.

“He told me the car was breaking down and that they were scared. Then I heard shouting. Then gunshots,” she said.

“My husband did nothing wrong. He was going for a religious function and was due to start fasting for 48 days.”

The two siblings father, A. Murali, said the family had not slept since the shooting.

“My son was only 21. He had no criminal record. How do we accept that he was executed by those meant to protect us?” he asked.

LFL lawyer Sachpreetraj Singh Sohanpal said the next-of-kin has submitted six demands, including the opening of a murder investigation; immediate suspension of all officers involved in the shooting; suspension of any personnel suspected of fabricating or planting evidence; intervention by the Federal Cabinet; and consideration of an RCI.

Melaka deputy police chief Datuk Dzulkhairi Mukhtar had previously said the trio were suspected members of “Geng Durian Tunggal” and had ambushed officers during Op Casa Melaka, slashing a police corporal on the arm.

The New Straits Times has reached out to Criminal Investigation Department director Datuk M. Kumar for comments.


Link: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/12/...n-what-happened

Backstory: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5547572&hl=

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post Dec 3 2025, 06:01 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=777086988712447

In Tamil, but same as above with pictures.

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Fucking animals! Should be shot in public!
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Our police have been doing this for so long. This is their standard MO but they will claim "tembak-menembak berlaku", "dia attack kita dengan parang", etc with parangs & guns placed on the scene but all the dead civillians have bullet holes at the back of their head with the bullet angle proving that they were shot at close range on the back of their head while kneeling down, the so-called "execution style". So many cases with proof but still no action from the authorities.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 3 2025, 06:09 PM)
Our police have been doing this for so long. This is their standard MO but they will claim "tembak-menembak berlaku", "dia attack kita dengan parang", etc with parangs & guns placed on the scene but all the dead civillians have bullet holes at the back of their head with the bullet angle proving that they were shot at close range on the back of their head while kneeling down, the so-called "execution style". So many cases with proof but still no action from the authorities.
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Scary shait, any summary?

So they go for prayers, but non police vehicle stops them and pew pew pew all of them in execution style?
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 3 2025, 06:15 PM)
Scary shait, any summary?

So they go for prayers, but non police vehicle stops them and pew pew pew all of them in execution style?
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Yup.
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lebih kurang macam kes ni

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https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/...ditembak-412201
Mahkamah Rayuan benar kurangkan ganti rugi kepada waris pemuda mati ditembak

23/03/2023

PUTRAJAYA: Mahkamah Rayuan di sini hari ini membenarkan rayuan kerajaan dan polis untuk mengurangkan jumlah ganti rugi kepada keluarga tiga pemuda yang terbunuh akibat ditembak dalam kejadian di zon perindustrian Glenmarie di Shah Alam, Selangor, 13 tahun lepas.
Panel tiga hakim Mahkamah Rayuan terdiri daripada Datuk Azizah Nawawi, Datuk S.Nantha Balan dan Datuk Mohamed Zaini Mazlan yang membenarkan rayuan itu, mengurangkan jumlah ganti rugi kepada RM649,200.
Perayu, yang didapati bertanggungjawab menyebabkan kematian tiga pemuda itu, merayu terhadap keputusan Mahkamah Tinggi pada 30 Jun 2021, yang memberikan award berjumlah RM1.52 juta kepada keluarga ketiga-tiga pemuda itu dengan setiap keluarga menerima kira-kira RM500,000 sebagai ganti rugi.

Tiga pemuda yang terbunuh dalam kejadian yang berlaku pada 13 Nov 2010 itu ialah Muhammad Shamil Hafiz Shapiei, 15, Mohd Hairul Nizam Tuah, 20, dan Muhammad Hanafi Omar, 22.

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Saman itu difailkan oleh ibu bapa Shamil, Shapiei Zainal Abidin dan Norhafizah Mad Razali, ibu Hairul Hamidah Kadar dan adik Hairul, Norhaliza Tuah, dan ibu bapa Hanifi, Omar Abu Bakar dan Noriah Darus.
Dalam pembelaan mereka, polis berkata mereka mengesyaki pemuda itu adalah anggota "Geng Minyak", dikatakan terlibat dalam beberapa siri samun di stesen minyak tetapi disangkal oleh keluarga tersebut yang mengatakan ketiga-tiga pemuda itu tidak mempunyai sebarang rekod jenayah

Keluarga tersebut mendakwa pemuda itu dibunuh dalam "gaya pembunuhan" berdasarkan kedudukan peluru memasuki badan mereka.


Peguam Kanan Persekutuan Noerazlim Saidil mewakili kerajaan dan polis manakala peguam Zaid Malek mewakili keluarga pemuda.
-- BERNAMA


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'Mereka ditembak mati semasa melutut' - peguam imbas kejadian Glenmarie

Pada 13 Nov 2010, Muhammad Shamil Hafiz Shapiei, 15, Mohd Hairul Nizam Tuah, 22, dan Muhammad Hanafi Omar, 21, ditembak mati oleh polis di Glenmarie, Shah Alam.

Pada awalnya, polis mendakwa bahawa mereka bersenjatakan parang dan cuba menyerang polis, selepas cubaan merompak kios stesen minyak di Monteres dan di Bukit Subang.

Bagaimanapun, peguam hak asasi manusia N Surendran, yang mewakili keluarga ketiga-tiga remaja tersebut ketika itu, berkata laporan bedah siasat bercanggah dengan kenyataan polis.

"Polis mendakwa bahawa remaja-remaja terbabit menyerang mereka dengan parang dan mereka perlu melepaskan tembakan.

"Bagaimanapun, laporan bedah siasat menunjukkan bahawa sudut penembusan peluru, jumlah peluru yang ditembak dan jarak mereka ditembak bercanggah dengan kejadian yang diceritakan polis.

"Bedah siasat menunjukkan sangat jelas yang versi (kenyataan) pihak polis tidak benar dan apa yang berlaku adalah remaja-remaja terbabit diminta berlutut, baju mereka ditarik hingga ke atas kepala mereka, dan mereka ditembak di tempat kejadian," kata Surendran kepada Malaysiakini hari ini.

"Luka dari peluru yang menembusi Shamil berada pada sudut 45 peratus, sehingga membuktikan yang dia sememangnya sedang berlutut. Terdapat juga baki tembakan di baju yang menunjukkan peluru ditembak dari jarak dekat," tambahnya.

Shamil, yang ketika itu berusia 15 tahun, mengalami tujuh luka akibat tembakan termasuk tembakan maut di kepalanya, sementara Hairul, 20, juga mengalami tiga luka di kepala, dada dan perutnya, sementara Hanafi mengalami tujuh luka, dengan tembakan di kepala dan dada sehingga mati.


Surendran berkata demikian selepas keluarga ketiga-tiga anak lelaki itu diberikan ganti rugi sebanyak RM1.5 juta oleh Mahkamah Tinggi Shah Alam.

Ia menandakan berakhirnya proses panjang yang bermula ketika ketiga-tiga keluarga tersebut memfailkan tuntutan mahkamah terhadap polis dan kerajaan pada November 2013.

Mahkamah Tinggi di Shah Alam pada tahun 2015 kemudian menolak saman sivil yang dikemukakan keluarga tersebut.

Namun, Mahkamah Rayuan dalam keputusannya pada Ogos 2016 sebulat suara mendapati polis dan kerajaan bertanggungjawab atas kematian tersebut.

Surendran berkata setakata yang diketahui belum ada pendakwaan terhadap pegawai polis yang didapati bertanggungjawab terhadap pembunuhan seperti itu.

“Setahu saya, sama ada mereka tidak mendakwa pegawai-pegawai tersebut, atau prosesnya sangat lambat dan tidak meyakinkan sehingga kes itu hilang begitu saja di dalam sistem.

"Walaupun terdapat banyak kes, pihak polis masih menjalankan siasatan. Tidak ada badan bebas yang mengumpulkan bukti," katanya.

Surendran juga menceritakan kematian Aminulrasyid Amzah yang ditembak maut setelah menaiki kereta kakaknya pada April 2010, iaitu enam bulan sebelum kes tembakan di Glenmarie.

"Jenain Subi pada mulanya didakwa dan ketika di Mahkamah Tinggi bukti menunjukkan dia ditembak lebih daripada 20 kali. Dakwaan terhadap Jenain itu kemudiannya dibatalkan, jadi setahu saya, walaupun terdapat sebilangan kes berprofil tinggi, tidak ada yang dipertanggungjawabkan di mahkamah," katanya.
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post Dec 3 2025, 06:17 PM

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got the recording?

the conversation is about what roughly? hutang duit? gang revenge?
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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 3 2025, 06:15 PM)
Scary shait, any summary?

So they go for prayers, but non police vehicle stops them and pew pew pew all of them in execution style?
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You parang the pulis. N expect pulis turning into abpok mood hari u dengan lemah lembut kah??
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Verify type-?, then this case NFA.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 3 2025, 06:19 PM)
You parang the pulis. N expect pulis turning into abpok mood hari u dengan lemah lembut kah??
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Dude, every killings needs to be questioned, it is a check and balance process.

You can't just give police blanket immunity to do whatever they want.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 3 2025, 06:19 PM)
You parang the pulis. N expect pulis turning into abpok mood hari u dengan lemah lembut kah??
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Are you really that daft? There is no parang the pulis happening. Pulis execute you and place parang tepi. Later claim you try to parang them and they shot you.

Do you remember what happened to the Setia Mall shooter? Got shot while sleeping in the bed of a hotel at 3am. Polis UTK team break down his hotel room door and executed him. Later claim there was tembak-menembak antara the shooter and police padahal that guy was sleeping. At least that case, the shooter was dangerous and had several guns so it is justified to shoot first. But many other cases, they shoot first even when the other fella is not a threat. Ada paham?
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QUOTE(pandah @ Dec 3 2025, 06:17 PM)
got the recording?

the conversation is about what roughly? hutang duit? gang revenge?
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In the recording, Logeswaran is heard telling his wife that an unmarked Perodua Aruz had been trailing them. She repeatedly urged him to head to the nearest police station.

Minutes later, their vehicle stalled. The call then captured shouts, commotion and pleas for help.

One of the men can be heard saying: “Jangan, saya ada anak” (Please don’t, I have a child) — just before loud, rapid bangs consistent with gunshots, rang out.

Agamam Ani’s appointed forensic scientist, G. Venodthan, CEO of Thistlegorm Forensic, said the audio contained no sounds indicating the presence, handling or use of weapons, contradicting reports that the men had attacked police with machetes.

“There is absolutely no audible indication of the victims attacking officers. No sounds of struggles. The men appeared confused but compliant,” he said.

He said the only audible references were to a vehicle bonnet and a walkie-talkie.

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QUOTE(smsid @ Dec 3 2025, 06:15 PM)
Scary shait, any summary?

So they go for prayers, but non police vehicle stops them and pew pew pew all of them in execution style?
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Yes. They went for prayers at 1AM in the morning..
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Yes. They went for prayers at 1AM in the morning..
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Lol 1 AM...

1 AM is very suspicious lol.
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Sorry, sy tak bole beri sokongan bg cadangan tubuh RCI utk kes ini...


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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Dec 3 2025, 06:29 PM)
Yes. They went for prayers at 1AM in the morning..
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Nothing wrong with 1am. Police should just stop them question and arrest if needed, not execute them le
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mana police bodycam to refute the allegations
early this year say 10k unit of bodycam already distributed & actively used by pdrm
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QUOTE(Atrocious @ Dec 3 2025, 06:29 PM)
Yes. They went for prayers at 1AM in the morning..
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Ayyappan prayers got at 5 am. (Not defending them, but I got relative who worship Lord Ayyapan in December.)

In that FB video that I posted, Arun said they are going to KL for 48 days prayers for Ayyapan. Cops with unmarked cars blocked them, pulled them off, handcuffed them and shot them dead.

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End of year want to hit KPI close case. Everybody knows this. They just need to find people who fit the description.
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I read M. Pushpanathan, 21. clean sheet, no prior kes

But what about the other 2...

Puvaneswaran, 24
G. Logeswaran, 29

Kes lampau?

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based on the other thread the 21 years old has no criminal record, the other 2 are the suspected criminals, but all kena tembak, even no fight and pleading?

the officers are colleagues of the op case officer which kena slashed? they take revenge by themselves?
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 3 2025, 06:53 PM)
I read M. Pushpanathan, 21. clean sheet, no prior kes

But what about the other 2...

Puvaneswaran, 24
G. Logeswaran, 29

Kes lampau?
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The suspects, armed with parangs, comprised two men aged 24 and 29, who were known as 'Geng DT'.

The identity of the third suspect has yet to be confirmed.

The 29-year-old had 39 previous criminal records, including robbery, house break-ins, car theft, and drug offences, while the second suspect had 12 prior records.

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Dec 3 2025, 06:42 PM)
Ayyappan prayers got at 5 am. (Not defending them, but I got relative who worship Lord Ayyapan in December.)

In that FB video that I posted, Arun said they are going to KL for 48 days prayers for Ayyapan. Cops with unmarked cars blocked them, pulled them off, handcuffed them and shot them dead.
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Can police just shoot like that,??
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malaysia no different to Colombia or mexico, just they dont report everything in news je....

well at least I can harvests thier organ's
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I beleive police more than criminal scums gangster.

Polis ask u stop, u stop. U retaliate with parang, u die, simple.

Anyway this 1 really need listen to both side, police got their own story and the 3dead got another story by their family.

Well, choose which 1 to beleive? Of course POLICE.
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Families of 3 shot dead want PM's intervention, royal commission of inquiry
PETALING JAYA: Families of the three men shot dead by police in Durian Tunggal, Melaka, on Nov 24 want Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim to intervene and convene an urgent meeting with the Home Ministry, saying the incident warrants nothing less than a Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI).

Lawyers for Liberty (LFL) lawyer Rajesh Nagarajan said the gravity of the evidence, including a 13-minute 53-second audio recording capturing the moments leading up to the deaths of the three men, demanded immediate action from the highest levels of government.

“We urge the prime minister to step in, order an urgent meeting with the Home Ministry and consider establishing an RCI.

"This is not a shootout, it's an execution. The truth must be uncovered,” he said at a press conference at the LFL office today (Wednesday).

The families of the deceased — M. Puvaneswaran, 24; M. Pushpanathan, 21; and G. Logeswaran, 29 — echoed the call, saying they no longer trusted the police to conduct an impartial investigation.

At the press conference, LFL and non-government organisation, Agamam Ani, played the recording, captured by Logeswaran’s wife, Jayasri, 31, who had remained on a call with him until the moment gunfire rang out.

Agamam Ani founder Arun Dorasamy said the audio contradicted the police’s account, adding that the trio had been heading to Kuala Lumpur for a special 48-day religious prayer observance, not to commit burglary.

In the recording, Logeswaran is heard telling his wife that an unmarked Perodua Aruz had been trailing them. She repeatedly urged him to head to the nearest police station.

Minutes later, their vehicle stalled. The call then captured shouts, commotion and pleas for help.

One of the men can be heard saying: “Jangan, saya ada anak” (Please don’t, I have a child) — just before loud, rapid bangs consistent with gunshots, rang out.

Agamam Ani’s appointed forensic scientist, G. Venodthan, CEO of Thistlegorm Forensic, said the audio contained no sounds indicating the presence, handling or use of weapons, contradicting reports that the men had attacked police with machetes.

“There is absolutely no audible indication of the victims attacking officers. No sounds of struggles. The men appeared confused but compliant,” he said.

He said the only audible references were to a vehicle bonnet and a walkie-talkie.

This assessment contradicted earlier media reports stating police had seized machetes from the scene.

Calling the incident “an execution”, Arun said the families now possessed what they described as unprecedented evidence of police wrongdoing.

“For the first time, we have real-time audio capturing the immediate lead-up to a police shooting. It debunks the narrative that the men attacked officers. The public can hear for themselves what happened,” he said.

Arun said the forensic findings, together with post-mortem reports showing downward bullet trajectories, further supported the conclusion that the men were shot while restrained.

“It is very obvious that all of them must have been kneeling down. This must have been an execution-style killing. That is the only way it would make sense that a bullet travelled top-down from the nose and lodged in the heart,” he said.

Arun added their timeline reconstruction showed:
1.38am — Puvaneswaran shot
1.39am — Pushpanathan shot twice
1.40am — Logeswaran shot after pleading “jangan…”

He said the recording suggested the men had already been restrained when shots were fired.

“There was no threat that justified lethal force. Public confidence has been shaken,” he said.

Puvaneswaran and Pushpanathan’s parents, who were also present, broke down when the recording was played.

Jayasri, who brought along her four-year-old daughter, was visibly shaken.

Trembling as she spoke to the Press, she said she had replayed the audio countless times since her husband’s death.

“He told me the car was breaking down and that they were scared. Then I heard shouting. Then gunshots,” she said.

“My husband did nothing wrong. He was going for a religious function and was due to start fasting for 48 days.”

The two siblings father, A. Murali, said the family had not slept since the shooting.

“My son was only 21. He had no criminal record. How do we accept that he was executed by those meant to protect us?” he asked.

LFL lawyer Sachpreetraj Singh Sohanpal said the next-of-kin has submitted six demands, including the opening of a murder investigation; immediate suspension of all officers involved in the shooting; suspension of any personnel suspected of fabricating or planting evidence; intervention by the Federal Cabinet; and consideration of an RCI.

Melaka deputy police chief Datuk Dzulkhairi Mukhtar had previously said the trio were suspected members of “Geng Durian Tunggal” and had ambushed officers during Op Casa Melaka, slashing a police corporal on the arm.

The New Straits Times has reached out to Criminal Investigation Department director Datuk M. Kumar for comments.
Link: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/12/...n-what-happened

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is this why police is afraid to wear bodycams?
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lebih kurang macam kes ni
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RIP to the young boys. life cut short just like that. parents effort all down the drain.
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Things getting out of hands, must be controlled. The inquiry must be done
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What's more important is, did they really did the robberies?

Btw, same with that Glenmarie geng minyak case. Sure they managed to prove the cops did killed the trio. But if the 3 were indeed involved with the robberies, then served them right. The family can have all the money, but im glad robbers shot dead.
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The suspects, armed with parangs, comprised two men aged 24 and 29, who were known as 'Geng DT'.

The identity of the third suspect has yet to be confirmed.

The 29-year-old had 39 previous criminal records, including robbery, house break-ins, car theft, and drug offences, while the second suspect had 12 prior records.

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Between an alleged corrupt police vs an alleged criminal, all I have to say is this;
Nobody whose number of criminal record is more than his age get the benefit of the doubt from me. It doesn't get counted when you're below 10 FFS.
This is what I don't like about Arun's tactics, he picks the most marketable man out of them all and present it like it's all honey and roses.
This kind of tactic is called framing the argument (or lying by omission), it's presenting selective information to lead the readers into forming a conclusion / narrative favorable to you.

Anywho says there ada recording of incident, where can listen?
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How many shots were fired? Just 4 shots?

Was there really 2 minutes between the first shot and the last shot?
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this is the exact kind of thing the certain someone can help out. but... nvm
pluribus episode 6 coming out in 2 days, damn cant wait.

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Dead man tell no tales.
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QUOTE(Alex9892 @ Dec 3 2025, 07:03 PM)
I beleive police more than criminal scums gangster.

Polis ask u stop, u stop. U retaliate with parang, u die, simple.

Anyway this 1 really need listen to both side, police got their own story and the 3dead got another story by their family.

Well, choose which 1 to beleive? Of course POLICE.
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Already got recording, yet you still blindly believe police? At least have a bit of doubt la.

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"The 29-year-old had 39 previous criminal records, including robbery, house break-ins, car theft, and drug offences, while the second suspect had 12 prior records."


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versi apa ni anak saya baek orangnya?


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You parang the pulis. N expect pulis turning into abpok mood hari u dengan lemah lembut kah??
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U lost in cave?
Not 1st time and won't be last. U need peay hard u won't be the next
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Already got recording, yet you still blindly believe police?  At least have a bit of doubt la.

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so, where is the recording?
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"Geng DT" refers to a specific group of three local Malaysian criminals involved in numerous robberies and break-ins in the Melaka, Negeri Sembilan, and Selangor areas, who were recently shot dead by police in a self-defence incident.

The incident occurred in late November 2025, when police attempted to arrest the individuals in a palm oil plantation in Durian Tunggal, Melaka.

Modus Operandi: The gang, active since 2024, operated on foot while armed with machetes and iron bars to avoid detection, and were known for their willingness to use violence.

Crimes and Losses: They were linked to approximately 20 cases of robbery targeting houses, factories, and restaurants, with estimated total losses reaching around RM1.3 million.

Fatal Encounter: During the police operation, one suspect attacked a police officer with a machete, causing severe injuries to the officer's left hand. The police, having no other options, fired shots in self-defence, killing all three suspects at the scene.
Aftermath: A team of lawyers has called for an independent commission to investigate the incident further.
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U lost in cave?
Not 1st time and won't be last. U need peay hard u won't be the next
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chance kena shot dead by polis is much lower than kena parang by random penyamuk
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chance kena shot dead by polis is much lower than kena parang by random penyamuk
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It is more freq than u think off
Even teenager cannot avoid the fate

https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kematian_Aminulrasyid_Amzah
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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 3 2025, 08:23 PM)
It is more freq than u think off
Even teenager cannot avoid the fate

https://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kematian_Aminulrasyid_Amzah
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so you know how many break in by parang gang this year alone?
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so you know how many break in by parang gang this year alone?
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U r damn confused

Police job is to investigate and catch the criminals
It is not for police to judge whether they are guilty and summary execute
It is murder in cold blood

Self defense under attack is different story. In this case, obviously the last victim is pleading for life instead of attacking police.
Yet, shot first ask later?
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<submitted six demands, including the opening of a murder investigation; immediate suspension of all officers involved in the shooting; suspension of any personnel suspected of fabricating or planting evidence; intervention by the Federal Cabinet; and consideration of an RCI>

Personally I don’t think the police fabricating an attack upon them with an almost severed arm as a result of that. Yes, I can understand police won’t take any chances in protecting themselves. Who isn’t. Did they not attack the police?

How to record live audio on the other side of a tele call? Teach me.

Which portal can listen to the live audio recording?

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QUOTE(abelyap @ Dec 3 2025, 08:32 PM)
U r damn confused

Police job is to investigate and catch the criminals
It is not for police to judge whether they are guilty and summary execute
It is murder in cold blood

Self defense under attack is different story. In this case, obviously the last victim is pleading for life instead of attacking police.
Yet, shot first ask later?
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so, where is the said recording?
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https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/kes/2025/...di-ladang-sawit


Polis show the parangs, gloves, bolt cutter. How? Pigi religious function lagi? 😁


And ade report...

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Seorang anggota polis cedera serius akibat ditetak pada tangan kiri yang mana ia hampir meragut nyawanya.



Takkan Polis mau parang his own hand and make up setori? 😁
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 3 2025, 08:37 PM)
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https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/kes/2025/...di-ladang-sawit
Polis show the parangs, gloves, bolt cutter. How? Pigi religious function lagi? 😁
And ade report...
Takkan Polis mau parang his own hand and make up setori?  😁
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Biasa la, pusing pusing play victim. Fully support POLICE If see criminal scums like this, tembak jer, kalau tangkap masuk dalam few months/years, bazir nasi bazir tenaga. Once come out continue go samun with their parang.
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Ok la. No need wasting tax payers money feeding all the criminals. Well done police
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 3 2025, 08:37 PM)
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https://www.bharian.com.my/berita/kes/2025/...di-ladang-sawit
Polis show the parangs, gloves, bolt cutter. How? Pigi religious function lagi? 😁
And ade report...
Takkan Polis mau parang his own hand and make up setori?  😁
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The police choose one ppl to sacrifize. Parang own hand then claim disability allowance. Maybe get compensation rm5m, disability allowance 20k per month and 4wifes to serve him.
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The police choose one ppl to sacrifize. Parang own hand then claim disability allowance. Maybe get compensation rm5m, disability allowance 20k per month and 4wifes to serve him.
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i guess someone draw the short straw






wait, i smoke too much weed liao
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Give him 24 hours to respond.
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So where's the recording?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 3 2025, 08:36 PM)
so, where is the said recording?
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QUOTE(Supreme1394 @ Dec 3 2025, 08:49 PM)
So where's the recording?
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With the lawyers.
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With the lawyers.
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the 'lawyer'

oh well
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Do u think the police will simply open fire?
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of course la told wife going for prayers at 1AM.. xkan mau bgtau btul2 pegi rompak.. police trail them must be due to earlier investigation.. kalau mau saja2 tembak there will be no klangboys left la
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I am fihe with the police. Do not tolerate gangsterism violence
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PDRM - killed a Mongolian foreigner, rakyat need to pay 9M, kidnapped a citizen and missing 8 years then rakyat pay 37M.

Who is the gangster here, are you that daft?
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Do u think the police will simply open fire?
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Probably the 3 deceased caused too much troubles.

Police also human, didn't know what they actually saw & they maybe fight for their own life.

But still ending with a doubtful shooting angle.........................

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Our police have been doing this for so long. This is their standard MO but they will claim "tembak-menembak berlaku", "dia attack kita dengan parang", etc with parangs & guns placed on the scene but all the dead civillians have bullet holes at the back of their head with the bullet angle proving that they were shot at close range on the back of their head while kneeling down, the so-called "execution style". So many cases with proof but still no action from the authorities.
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Normal la. If female, will get raped. So many cases I have listed here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5540005&hl=

Others, will shoot first, then just bring an extra parang to put in the hands of the person they shot
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so with their logic, ok for pulis kena chopped and not retaliate at all?
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Why la PRDM don't want to wear bodycam when on duty to prove their innocence. Mahal sgt ke bodycams?
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so with their logic, ok for pulis kena chopped and not retaliate at all?
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According to their version story, there are no machete (or any weapon ) in that car.
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still not as bad as the situation in USA?
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So is this anak baik or not? Bring parang or no bring parang? But why lepak puts 1am?
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QUOTE
RINGKASAN BUKTI AUDIO 13 Minit 56.Saat

(PEMBUNUHAN GAYA EKSEKUSI BELIA India Oleh POLIS MELAKA – KES DURIAN TUNGGAL)
24/12/25

1. Gambaran Umum

Rakaman audio sepanjang 13 minit 56 saat yang dirakam secara langsung melalui telefon isteri Mangsa 1 memberi gambaran sebenar detik-detik sebelum dan semasa mangsa-mangsa ditembak mati oleh pihak polis.

Rakaman ini menunjukkan dengan jelas:

Kereta mangsa rosak dan tidak boleh bergerak,

Mangsa dalam keadaan panik dan ketakutan,

Arahan agresif dan tindakan kasar oleh individu dipercayai polis,

Beberapa bunyi letupan kuat menyerupai tembakan,

Percubaan melindungi bukti apabila polis menyedari kewujudan telefon yang sedang merakam.

Rakaman ini bertentangan secara total dengan naratif rasmi polis mengenai “serangan bersenjata” oleh mangsa.

2. Kronologi Utama Berdasarkan Rakaman Audio

**(A) 00:00:00 – 00:03:35

Kereta Rosak & Mangsa Panik**

Mangsa 1 berulang kali menyebut: “Mudiyaathu / Tak boleh / Tak jalan.”

Perbualan Tamil menunjukkan kereta terlebih panas, air-cond rosak, dan cubaan untuk menghidupkan enjin gagal.

Isteri Mangsa 1 menyebut ramai orang di Shell, menunjukkan kemungkinan kejadian berlaku selepas dikejar.

Mangsa menyebut:

“Ma, mereka dah tangkap kami!”

“Kereta sudah habis.”

Tiada sebarang agresi oleh mangsa. Mereka ketakutan dan dalam kecemasan mekanikal, bukan melarikan diri.

**(B) 00:03:36 – 00:05:20

Kontak Pertama Polis – Nada Mengancam** Suara dipercayai polis mula mengeluarkan arahan keras:

“Keluar!”

“Baring!”

“Diam la!”

“Duduk! Sit down!” (Nada marah dan mengawal)

Rakaman dipenuhi suara kesakitan, jeritan dan rintihan mangsa, menunjukkan berlaku tekanan fizikal yang kuat.

**© 00:05:21 – 00:06:05

Siasatan & Kekeliruan** Polis bertanya:

“Tadi suruh berhenti, kenapa tak berhenti?!”

Mangsa menjawab:

“Itu orang suruh dia lari.”

Ini menunjukkan mangsa keliru dan tidak berniat melarikan diri.

**(D) 00:06:06 – 00:09:19

Kawalan Badan & Kesakitan Mangsa** Beberapa arahan polis terdengar:

“Bonet! Bonet!”

“Kaki kangkang, kaki turun!”

“Baring, baring!”

Mangsa menjerit kesakitan.
Mangsa 3 menyebut: “Adik saya?” – membuktikan mangsa berada bersama ahli keluarga dan risaukan mereka.

Polis juga menyebut:

“Saya kat Jasin baru naik highway”

“Walkie talkie ke benda?”

Menunjukkan komunikasi antara pasukan polis.

**(E) 00:09:20 – 00:10:00

Pencarian Bukti / Telefon** Polis bertanya:

“Handphone kau kat mana?”

“Dalam… takut dia ambil gambar.”

Ini menunjukkan polis takut tindakan mereka dirakam, bukan takut diserang.

**(F) 00:10:01 – 00:11:03

Bunyi Tembakan** Urutan bunyi jelas:

1. 00:10:09 — “Bang!” (jeritan polis)

2. 00:10:12 — suara lain juga jerit “Bang!”

3. 00:10:16 — Bunyi letupan kuat menyerupai tembakan

4. 00:11:00–00:11:03 — Dua lagi bunyi letupan menyerupai tembakan

Tiada bunyi senjata dari pihak mangsa.
Ia konsisten dengan tembakan dari pihak polis, bukan pergelutan bersenjata.

**(G) 00:11:04 – 00:12:18

Mengalih Kereta / Mengalihkan Mayat** Polis berkata:

“Satu dua tiga… tarik!”

“Tayar, tayar, pusing tayar!”

“Tangan ada basah ni.”

“Kita masuk… kita cover kereta.”

Ini menunjukkan:

Kemungkinan mengalihkan mayat,

Memanipulasi kedudukan kereta,

Cuba mereka-reka situasi tembakan.

**(H) 00:12:19 – 00:12:26

Rayuan Terakhir Mangsa & Tembakan** Mangsa merayu:

“Jangannnn…”

“Saya ada anakkkkk…”

Pada 00:12:26, satu bunyi kuat menyerupai tembakan dirakam.
Ini adalah saat pembunuhan secara eksekusi.

**(I) 00:12:27 – 00:13:53

Usaha Menutup Bukti** Polis panik dan berkata:

“Matikan… matikan… ini evidence.”

“Ini Loges punya… jap jap jap.”

Rakaman terhenti, berkemungkinan besar kerana polis menemui dan mematikan telefon.

Ini menunjukkan pengetahuan jelas mengenai tindakan salah dan usaha menutup bukti.

3. Dapatan Utama (Ringkas)

1. Tiada langsung agresi atau serangan daripada mangsa.

Hanya ketakutan, kecemasan dan kereta rosak.

2. Polis menggunakan kekerasan fizikal dan verbal sejak awal.

3. Mangsa dalam keadaan dikawal, diseksa, dan merayu.

4. Beberapa bunyi letupan menyerupai tembakan dirakam.

Salah satu tepat selepas mangsa merayu nyawa.

5. Polis dilihat mengubah kedudukan kereta / tempat kejadian.

6. Polis takut dengan telefon dan bukti rakaman.

7. Rakaman berakhir selepas polis menemui telefon.

4. Kesimpulan

Berdasarkan rakaman audio, terdapat bukti kukuh dan konsisten mengenai:

Pembunuhan secara sengaja / gaya eksekusi,

Tiada ancaman daripada mangsa,

Penggunaan kekerasan berlebihan,

Kemungkinan manipulasi tempat kejadian,

Usaha memusnahkan bukti.

Rakaman ini bertentangan secara total dengan naratif polis berhubung:

Kononnya berlaku tembak-menembak,

Mangsa menyerang polis,

Mangsa bersenjata parang,

Mangsa melarikan diri.

Rakaman ini adalah bukti utama untuk:

Siasatan bebas oleh Bukit Aman D5,

Siasatan EAIC / IPCMC,

Aduan rasmi kepada SUHAKAM,

Tindakan disiplin serta pendakwaan terhadap anggota terlibat.

Arun Dorasamy
Legal Unit
Agamam Ani Msia
PUSAT - Puspanathan Action Team.

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Dec 3 2025, 06:19 PM)
You parang the pulis. N expect pulis turning into abpok mood hari u dengan lemah lembut kah??
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I am fihe with the police. Do not tolerate gangsterism violence
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Wow there has been recording to show otherwise

And yet these are the comments from you?

Until proven that it is weapons against police, you should really watch what you are saying.

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Oh man... If you hear the recording, it's so f-ing sad...
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so, where is the recording?
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So, at this point you really should either stop commenting, or change your perspective

But knowing majority people of /k is full of ego and self righteousness

You'll show up


QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Dec 3 2025, 11:16 PM)

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Dafuq is going on with MY these days?
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 3 2025, 11:26 PM)
Wow there has been recording to show otherwise

And yet these are the comments from you?

Until proven that it is weapons against police, you should really watch what you are saying.
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i percaya polis but after listen to this recording evidence, i changed my trust.
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So, there was a total of 4 shots heard over a period of 2 minutes. That's not consistent with the story that they were shot in self defense.
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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 3 2025, 11:55 PM)
i percaya polis but after listen to this recording evidence, i changed my trust.
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I would believe the authorities too if there were no grounds to suspect anything different or there are counter proofs out there

Therefore I understand where some of the comments are coming from

But it has happened before, therefore its not the first time, so there was a reasonable doubt there

And then the recordings came out, increasing the likelihood of the truth, although it still needs to be cross examined and validated down the road in court
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QUOTE(dabudin @ Dec 3 2025, 09:44 PM)
of course la told wife going for prayers at 1AM.. xkan mau bgtau btul2 pegi rompak.. police trail them must be due to earlier investigation.. kalau mau saja2 tembak there will be no klangboys left la
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 4 2025, 12:02 AM)
I would believe the authorities too if there were no grounds to suspect anything different or there are counter proofs out there

Therefore I understand where some of the comments are coming from

But it has happened before, therefore its not the first time, so there was a reasonable doubt there

And then the recordings came out, increasing the likelihood of the truth, although it still needs to be cross examined and validated down the road in court
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If this is real, it is sad to be honest but I afraid it will be NFA.

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 4 2025, 12:05 AM)
If this is real, it is sad to be honest but I afraid it will be NFA.
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The shooting and loss off life aside

This is another highly likely outcome, unfortunately, maybe not NFA, but even so might be under-punished
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Please investigate and charge those responsible.
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QUOTE(Panda12 @ Dec 3 2025, 11:29 PM)
Oh man... If you hear the recording, it's so f-ing sad...
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Where to hear the audio recording? Any portal
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Rakaman audio (AMARAN: mengerikan)

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSfnWvgJQ/

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 4 2025, 12:32 AM)
Where to hear the audio recording? Any portal
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I think Arun will upload the entire recording in his FB soon.
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I think Arun will upload the entire recording in his FB soon.
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I see. Not available yet.
TS keep me posted ya, I want to hear it
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how a normal phone call will have recorded? something fishy here.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 3 2025, 08:36 PM)
so, where is the said recording?
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U bodo or wat?! That is a forensic evidence in a possible murder investigation and probably will be passed to the lawyer & produced in court, not shown to the random public. Don let racism cloud yor brain.

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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Dec 3 2025, 10:58 PM)
According to their version story, there are no machete (or any weapon ) in that car.
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And u think the police intention is to simply shoot and kill? They are human too.
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Tiktok clip full of hate…it will b nfa… unless pilitician involve mana waytha tis is ur chance…
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QUOTE(gheyfriend @ Dec 4 2025, 07:27 AM)
Tiktok clip full of hate…it will b nfa… unless pilitician involve mana waytha tis is ur chance…
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Till now, no politician (from both sides) talking about this.
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At a press conference at the Lawyers for Liberty (LFL) office today, the families alleged that the evidence presented by police — including claims that one of the men had slashed a policeman with a machete - was "fabricated".

actually quite interested to know how to fabricate a near fatal slash wound
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post Dec 4 2025, 10:12 AM

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Meanwhile Arun:

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All tow truck brothers.. Who towed Maroon Saga BLM
CCP 7208 - 24/11/25 Durian Tunggal, exactly where? Pic?
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Dec 4 2025, 10:12 AM)
Meanwhile Arun:
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eh, what that mean actually?

what is his message?
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So how? Nak percaya siapa ni? The other article different story.
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QUOTE(Capt. Marble @ Dec 4 2025, 10:17 AM)
So how? Nak percaya siapa ni? The other article different story.
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so far media is quite silence on this, even non of the opposition pick up this issue

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 4 2025, 10:13 AM)
eh, what that mean actually?

what is his message?
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That car was not seized by the police. Someone towed the car.
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can visualize the situation? macam Teoh Beng Hock
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QUOTE(MaybachS600 @ Dec 4 2025, 10:21 AM)
That car was not seized by the police. Someone towed the car.
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that is weird, police didn't towed the car to lab?
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To be frank, I highly doubt any story about some dark skinned dudes doing religious stuff that leads to shooting by police forces, as I know the police here only shoot for two reasons - either you present a high probable threat of harm, or, when you are already in their 'shoot-on-sight list' for certain crimes.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 4 2025, 10:22 AM)
that is weird, police didn't towed the car to lab?
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Yeah, they showcased the parangs but not the car during the press conference.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 4 2025, 12:39 AM)
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how a normal phone call will have recorded? something fishy here.
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In the recording, Logeswaran is heard telling his wife that an unmarked Perodua Aruz had been trailing them. She repeatedly urged him to head to the nearest police station.

There is call recorder and the telco can retrieve it too.

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 4 2025, 10:20 AM)
so far media is quite silence on this, even non of the opposition pick up this issue

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NFA is most probably case
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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 4 2025, 10:28 AM)
NFA is most probably case
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Dec 4 2025, 10:27 AM)
There is call recorder and the telco can retrieve it too.
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will u record any single call you call out?
and how common you will have call recorder and get record all the call?

this is not fishy?
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 4 2025, 10:50 AM)
will u record any single call you call out?
and how common you will have call recorder and get record all the call?

this is not fishy?
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Under common practice, no one will record too but who knows if his wife did it?

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Dec 4 2025, 10:52 AM)
Under common practice, no one will record too but who knows if his wife did it?
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that why fishy,

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 4 2025, 10:50 AM)
will u record any single call you call out?
and how common you will have call recorder and get record all the call?

this is not fishy?
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That app will automatically record, and the telco can retrieve it too. Read Pastor Koh’s judgment by Justice Su Tiang Joo unless you prefer to stay ignorant.
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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 4 2025, 10:50 AM)
will u record any single call you call out?
and how common you will have call recorder and get record all the call?

this is not fishy?
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How is a call from husband telling the wife that he is being chased by police and he is scared is common?

shocking.gif rclxub.gif

Knowing that there was past police violence and negligence case, potentially your loved ones life may be threatened you wouldn't thought of recording?

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QUOTE(party @ Dec 3 2025, 08:47 PM)
The police choose one ppl to sacrifize. Parang own hand then claim disability allowance. Maybe get compensation rm5m, disability allowance 20k per month and 4wifes to serve him.
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maybe.but i dunno whether this considered as hampir putus? hmm.gif or got another pulis kena tetak hampir putus? hmm.gif

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https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2025/11/...an-hampir-putus

https://malaysiagazette.com/2025/11/24/tiga...r-putus-ditetak

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QUOTE(roymustang @ Dec 4 2025, 11:16 AM)
maybe.but i dunno whether this considered as hampir putus? hmm.gif or got another pulis kena tetak hampir putus? hmm.gif
https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2025/11/...an-hampir-putus

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https://www.hmetro.com.my/mutakhir/2025/11/...pemantauan-rapi
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according to arun, the slash wound is fabricated

how you fabricate that actually?
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Dec 4 2025, 10:55 AM)
That app will automatically record, and the telco can retrieve it too. Read Pastor Koh’s judgment by Justice Su Tiang Joo unless you prefer to stay ignorant.
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 4 2025, 11:00 AM)
How is a call from husband telling the wife that he is being chased by police and he is scared is common?

shocking.gif  rclxub.gif

Knowing that there was past police violence and negligence case, potentially your loved ones life may be threatened you wouldn't thought of recording?

rclxub.gif  shocking.gif  sweat.gif
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either wife already have the apps installed,
or else in panic mode still can find and install the apps and record it. hmm.gif

telco will not give recording to anyone except police with court order.

no way normal people can get that recording from telco.



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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 4 2025, 11:18 AM)
either wife already have the apps installed,
or else in panic mode still can find and install the apps and record it.  hmm.gif

telco will not give recording to anyone except police with court order.

no way normal people can get that recording from telco.
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Yeah, they also claimed they didn’t rule out the possibility that Pamela staged her own abduction.

😡

Hope the UFOs are watching you!

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all the government including the madani govt make no efforts to introduce independent oversight body of the enforcement agenices.

if there is one, then this body can investigate this and the albert tei case of mishandling by macc and of course the inaction for FAM scandal


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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Dec 4 2025, 11:18 AM)
either wife already have the apps installed,
or else in panic mode still can find and install the apps and record it.  hmm.gif

telco will not give recording to anyone except police with court order.

no way normal people can get that recording from telco.
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Then you must be in for a surprise

Many smartphones especially Androids come with call recorder app and feature nowadays

Also, many phone call apps also support built in phone recording feature that can be activated with 1 button

I'm going to take a wild and uneducated guess that you are likely to either use only vanilla iOS or no spam/scam call blocking apps as well
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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Dec 4 2025, 11:47 AM)
Then you must be in for a surprise

Many smartphones especially Androids come with call recorder app and feature nowadays

Also, many phone call apps also support built in phone recording feature that can be activated with 1 button

I'm going to take a wild and uneducated guess that you are likely to either use only vanilla iOS or no spam/scam call blocking apps as well
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 4 2025, 11:18 AM)
according to arun, the slash wound is fabricated

how you fabricate that actually?
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Since we are not experts on wound categorization

Better leave it to the medical / forensic experts

But even at this stage, it still does not tally up

If one person charges and go aggressive against the police

Does the police have to use extreme force to decapitate the suspects?

If we listen to the recordings, the shootings happened AFTER the suspects appeared to be under detention

One killed would be understandable, but why the excessive force on the other 2 suspects when they are already detained based on the recordings?


That would be the question
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Dec 4 2025, 11:54 AM)
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You are not wrong, and I agree it could be illegal

I'm merely stating the fact that there is such feature and such applications made available

But referring back to the statement quoted

1. The victim and the family involved in the recording isn't necessarily secret since notification may have been given and no refusal observed, and therefore not necessarily illegal;

2. On top of that, when in face of potential threat to ones life, does the legitimacy of the recording gets degraded (As in this is the truth) despite it may not be used actively as evidence in court?;

3. Also, as per the statement as well, there is a possible offense (allegedly by the police);

4. Again, as per the statement, investigators and authorities can use the recording should this be satisfied on legal grounds
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QUOTE(roymustang @ Dec 4 2025, 11:16 AM)
why the rambut so panjang like this for a polis?
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this one kes tetak polis kat tgn tu kan? mmg patut kene execute la..buat apa simpan binatang ganas
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QUOTE(roymustang @ Dec 4 2025, 11:16 AM)
That's an interesting position and angle for a slash wound. hmm.gif
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i rest my case coz i know there will be no further action one

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Dec 4 2025, 11:54 AM)
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This one’s basically just recording other people’s calls, like Najib talking with Rosmah. There’s no law that says you can’t record your own calls, it’s the same as using voice chat on WhatsApp.
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Dec 4 2025, 10:55 AM)
That app will automatically record, and the telco can retrieve it too. Read Pastor Koh’s judgment by Justice Su Tiang Joo unless you prefer to stay ignorant.
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What app, can intro to me?
Teach me how to record a live tele audio on both sides of the line from one end?

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They must have think will kena tangkap only like normal only...bwk balai...tambah kes jadi 40
Continue....silap haribulan kena shot
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Wah so many people are living in an entirely different world and trusting the police and their narrative until seeing the hard proof that says otherwise.

I am 50 years old now and I know that this exact scenario has played out countless times since I was a teenager. So it has been happening for over 30 years or more and I know it very well because I have always been at risk of being executed by the police just for being the wrong colour in their eyes.

Some of the people who got shot maybe deserved it coz they were really criminals, but if we allow the police to act as vigilantes, being judge & executioners, then one day it may be you or your loved ones at the end of the bullet just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time or in the wrong car, house, with the wrong people, etc.

This is police brutality and extra judicial killing, plain and simple. The perpetrators who carried out the execution should all be hanged for murder.
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Why TS kena sus? This thread?
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 11:07 AM)
Wah so many people are living in an entirely different world and trusting the police and their narrative until seeing the hard proof that says otherwise.

I am 50 years old now and I know that this exact scenario has played out countless times since I was a teenager. So it has been happening for over 30 years or more and I know it very well because I have always been at risk of being executed by the police just for being the wrong colour in their eyes.

Some of the people who got shot maybe deserved it coz they were really criminals, but if we allow the police to act as vigilantes, being judge & executioners, then one day it may be you or your loved ones at the end of the bullet just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time or in the wrong car, house, with the wrong people, etc.

This is police brutality and extra judicial killing, plain and simple. The perpetrators who carried out the execution should all be hanged for murder.
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I also wonder why people assume that they were acting as vigilantes and not hitmans? Without an unbiased third party to investigate these incidents, then the truth will continue to be buried.
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 5 2025, 11:34 AM)
Why TS kena sus? This thread?
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should be the EV car one.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 11:07 AM)
Wah so many people are living in an entirely different world and trusting the police and their narrative until seeing the hard proof that says otherwise.

I am 50 years old now and I know that this exact scenario has played out countless times since I was a teenager. So it has been happening for over 30 years or more and I know it very well because I have always been at risk of being executed by the police just for being the wrong colour in their eyes.

Some of the people who got shot maybe deserved it coz they were really criminals, but if we allow the police to act as vigilantes, being judge & executioners, then one day it may be you or your loved ones at the end of the bullet just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time or in the wrong car, house, with the wrong people, etc.

This is police brutality and extra judicial killing, plain and simple. The perpetrators who carried out the execution should all be hanged for murder.
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i wonder why polis prefer to shot them instead of going tru the normal process?

could have save the polis lot of hassle... killing they need to do many reports
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i just cukur not living in klang, as everything need to investigate then bam-bam all the time
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QUOTE(11c @ Dec 5 2025, 11:46 AM)
i wonder why polis prefer to shot them instead of going tru the normal process?

could have save the polis lot of hassle... killing they need to do many reports
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They are known as PDRM, but in reality they are PRDM, if u know wat I mean.
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 11:07 AM)
Wah so many people are living in an entirely different world and trusting the police and their narrative until seeing the hard proof that says otherwise.

I am 50 years old now and I know that this exact scenario has played out countless times since I was a teenager. So it has been happening for over 30 years or more and I know it very well because I have always been at risk of being executed by the police just for being the wrong colour in their eyes.

Some of the people who got shot maybe deserved it coz they were really criminals, but if we allow the police to act as vigilantes, being judge & executioners, then one day it may be you or your loved ones at the end of the bullet just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time or in the wrong car, house, with the wrong people, etc.

This is police brutality and extra judicial killing, plain and simple. The perpetrators who carried out the execution should all be hanged for murder.
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What was it? 39 & 12 kes lampau?
They parang the police hand?

They know lar vengeance is coming.
That's why he called his wife to record.



Sorry. I still don't support any RCI...
If imagine your family kena rompak by them at parang point.
I suppose it's easy to look the other way...

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 4 2025, 12:24 PM)
What app, can intro to me?
Teach me how to record a live tele audio on both sides of the line from one end?
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Let me guess, u using epal or samseng phone.

Some other phone already can record phone call since n-years ago.

It's a basic function though.

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Another record option

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Have some phone can auto-record every phone calls.



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There is a saying

live by the sword, die by the sword

This case bullet
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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 4 2025, 12:24 PM)
What app, can intro to me?
Teach me how to record a live tele audio on both sides of the line from one end?
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so many child monitoring app have this function

remote camera, remote microphone, remote location, play alarm etc etc semua ada.

(re that Korean teacher-student murder case how the parents desperately tried to locate using app )

( but dun expect free )

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QUOTE(jojolicia @ Dec 4 2025, 12:32 AM)
Where to hear the audio recording? Any portal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUcOlyCEOoU&t=127s
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QUOTE(Aftermaths @ Dec 5 2025, 12:42 PM)
Let me guess, u using epal or samseng phone.
If Apple IOS tak bole?
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I just heard the recording. Fucking hell!

I think nobody is sad about losing the 3 people (safer for society), but the manner in which the police killed them is chilling.

We have courts to charge criminals.

The police fabricated the story - there is nothing to suggest anyone every charged at or attacked the police.

The 3 guys were killed one after another, with some gap in between, not directly.

It is very clear they have surrendered and are unarmed.

A police that does as they please is dangerous.

I think the matter should be looking into seriously and quickly.

But where is DAP in this? The have the best legal minds. They should be the ones leading the charge.
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Alphie Solomons. Peaky Blinders

If your idea of making a living is striking fear to people, by blood money..then expect to die that way too.

If not go and make honest living.

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QUOTE(11c @ Dec 5 2025, 11:46 AM)
i wonder why polis prefer to shot them instead of going tru the normal process?

could have save the polis lot of hassle... killing they need to do many reports
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Bec they crossed the red line and parang'd the abang Polis.
Polis have to respond harshly and so others will get the memo.

Polis didn't even bother to hide. The trajectory, nose to heart, top to bottom. Or the double tap to the chest.
If you know you know.

You think Polis don't know how to about bullet trajectory that make it seem like execution. Of course they do.
If nak cover obviously can be done in other ways. But, tu lar, ade msg.

FAFO.


I know this may upset some esp if you straight to a tee, no gray area type 😁
But tu lar...If you think you tersangat gangsta, then no chance to even makan kari rice...





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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Dec 4 2025, 10:27 AM)
There is call recorder and the telco can retrieve it too.
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Legal /lawful interception

Of which a variant was used to identify the IMSI tied to the device IMEI that sent an extortion message to a pastors son. A device which location update confirmed was from a place where the person who sent the message was

Modern network plus IMEI and IMSI equals slam dunk. But some ppl try to loyar buruk and said no proof he registered that number thinking it's the early 2000s

Bodoh right?
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 11:07 AM)
Wah so many people are living in an entirely different world and trusting the police and their narrative until seeing the hard proof that says otherwise.

I am 50 years old now and I know that this exact scenario has played out countless times since I was a teenager. So it has been happening for over 30 years or more and I know it very well because I have always been at risk of being executed by the police just for being the wrong colour in their eyes.

Some of the people who got shot maybe deserved it coz they were really criminals, but if we allow the police to act as vigilantes, being judge & executioners, then one day it may be you or your loved ones at the end of the bullet just because you were at the wrong place at the wrong time or in the wrong car, house, with the wrong people, etc.

This is police brutality and extra judicial killing, plain and simple. The perpetrators who carried out the execution should all be hanged for murder.
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Not limited to Malaysia. Been watching a lot of US police dashcam videos these days and noticed that there are also cases of cops taking justice into their own hands. Eg: cops pursuing suspect, once suspect yield on the ground, they will taze and beat the suspect up even though they already yield. Yes the suspect is in the wrong for running at first, but the court can charge them for not cooperating with cops by avoiding arrest right. Its never a cop's duty to serve justice, they only assist in part of the justice process. The court is the one who decides punishment, not the cops.
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 5 2025, 12:33 PM)
What was it? 39 & 12 kes lampau?
They parang the police hand?

They know lar vengeance is coming.
That's why he called his wife to record.
Sorry. I still don't support any RCI...
If imagine your family kena rompak by them at parang point.
I suppose it's easy to look the other way...
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Did Pastor Koh also deserve to disappear? How about Allantuya?

Who watches the Watchmen?
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QUOTE(9m2w @ Dec 5 2025, 01:47 PM)
Legal /lawful interception

Of which a variant was used to identify the IMSI tied to the device IMEI that sent an extortion message to a pastors son. A device which location update confirmed was from a place where the person who sent the message was

Modern network plus IMEI and IMSI equals slam dunk. But some ppl try to loyar buruk and said no proof he registered that number thinking it's the early 2000s

Bodoh right?
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If that’s true, why did they need to fabricate the telco document? What you mentioned was never even tendered in court, so don’t act smart. They only tendered the number, name, IC, and address just “KL.” Activation date: 2014 all on a single sheet printed from an email.

The accused has already made several police reports, including video evidence of a conversation with telco staff confirming that the activation date was actually 2017 proving the document was forged. Yet, no raid or arrest was carried out on the telco.

I heard the lawyer already pressured the telco to release the billing records and CDRs, but they still dared to say no. If the line was registered in 2014, there should be plenty of billing and record data by now. Why still talking nonsense about IMEI and IMSI records when they don’t even dare to show the basic billing info.

Only ignorant/biased people/evil will believe them anymore.

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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 5 2025, 01:59 PM)
Did Pastor Koh also deserve to disappear? How about Allantuya?

Who watches the Watchmen?
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If Koh was doing what they suspected he was doing and continued to do so after several "reminders" then too bad for him...

Altantuya was murdered. What happened to her is a shame.


Anything else? 😁
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Dec 5 2025, 02:08 PM)
If that’s true, why did they need to fabricate the telco document? What you mentioned was never even tendered in court, so don’t act smart. They only tendered the number, name, IC, and address just “KL.” Activation date: 2014.

The accused has already made several police reports, including video evidence of a conversation with telco staff confirming that the activation date was actually 2017 proving the document was forged. Yet, no raid or arrest was carried out on the telco.
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You say fabricate means fabricate? Lam Tin you want to take advantage of clerical error to escape

Repeat after me

IMSI+IMEI + Location Update = slam dunk

Your number tied to your phone from the location you actually were holds more weight la

Ppl so free work backword to forge the one evidence thats so inconsequential and not the actual telco log files topkek


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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 5 2025, 02:09 PM)
If Koh was doing what they suspected he was doing and continued to do so after several "reminders" then too bad for him...

Altantuya was murdered. What happened to her is a shame.
Anything else? 😁
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You need to listen to the recording, it’s 13 minutes long. If the husband really wanted to attack with parang he wouldn’t have called the wife.

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If Apple IOS tak bole?
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U have to ask epal pipu then.

U knew la epal always late a few years, for this basic function maybe still need to wait until they announce like calculator arrive in ipad.

Software wise, u knew la. Whatever f sake also need moneh.

Pay so much but dun have these function, topkek.
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 5 2025, 12:33 PM)
What was it? 39 & 12 kes lampau?
They parang the police hand?

They know lar vengeance is coming.
That's why he called his wife to record.
Sorry. I still don't support any RCI...
If imagine your family kena rompak by them at parang point.
I suppose it's easy to look the other way...
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I think you are missing the point. There is such a thing as rule of law. If you allow it to be broken so wantonly by people who are supposed to uphold it, then just go quietly when they eventually come for you and for your family due to whatever slight you may have caused someone.

I understand the sentiment of letting certain violent farkers be shot dead coz it is too much of a hassle to build a case against them but things like this never end well because that same power is the one that lets them do anything they want like kidnapping prominent people in broad daylight with no consequences and putting them in tong simen.
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QUOTE(Aftermaths @ Dec 5 2025, 02:22 PM)
U have to ask epal pipu then.

U knew la epal always late a few years, for this basic function maybe still need to wait until they announce like calculator arrive in ipad.

Software wise, u knew la. Whatever f sake also need moneh.

Pay so much but dun have these function, topkek.
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Ya I know riiight. Apple very not friendly with these "stuff" 😁

I recorded a convo once.
Turned on speaker for convo on my iPhone and used another iPhone to record with Voice Memos. 😁
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If ppl with 39 & 12 kes lampau shot dead , i'm okay with it.
Those are society trash anyways. As a taxpayer, i think these seasoned criminals are wasting our money to feed them in prison.
Our law is too lenient anyways , so many repeat offenses and still no death penalty

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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 02:31 PM)
I think you are missing the point. There is such a thing as rule of law. If you allow it to be broken so wantonly by people who are supposed to uphold it, then just go quietly when they eventually come for you and for your family due to whatever slight you may have caused someone.

I understand the sentiment of letting certain violent farkers be shot dead coz it is too much of a hassle to build a case against them but things like this never end well because that same power is the one that lets them do anything they want like kidnapping prominent people in broad daylight with no consequences and putting them in tong simen.
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Yes and I agree. We must follow law.
I know for some, it must be followed 100% of the time. No ifs or buts. And that is fine.

But for me...
We are not infallible, life is not perfect or black and white all the time...






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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 02:31 PM)
I think you are missing the point. There is such a thing as rule of law. If you allow it to be broken so wantonly by people who are supposed to uphold it, then just go quietly when they eventually come for you and for your family due to whatever slight you may have caused someone.

I understand the sentiment of letting certain violent farkers be shot dead coz it is too much of a hassle to build a case against them but things like this never end well because that same power is the one that lets them do anything they want like kidnapping prominent people in broad daylight with no consequences and putting them in tong simen.
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Actually if think critically, I wonder why they kena follow and kena execute (as per allegation). Any story behind that ?
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 5 2025, 02:41 PM)
Yes and I agree. We must follow law.
I know for some, it must be followed 100% of the time. No ifs or buts. And that is fine.

But for me...
We are not infallible, life is not perfect or black and white all the time...
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I am old enough to appreciate that following rules 100% of the time has its own problems so I agree with your sentiment on the thin grey line. But from what I can observe, these "exceptions" have been a norm for a long time now which is why there is a trust deficit when it comes to our pulis. Publicly exacting vengeance on the criminals to punish them and intimidate their comrades looks good in a movie but in reality it shows a systemic problem where they know they can get away with murder and they do it all the time without thinking twice of the consequences.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Dec 5 2025, 02:38 PM)
If ppl with 39 & 12 kes lampau shot dead , i'm okay with it.
Those are society trash anyways. As a taxpayer, i think these seasoned criminals are wasting our money to feed them in prison.
Our law is too lenient anyways , so many repeat offenses and still no death penalty
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anyway, got criminal record doesn't mean convicted in court. just mean dude is regular customer of police station

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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Dec 5 2025, 02:41 PM)
Yes and I agree. We must follow law.
I know for some, it must be followed 100% of the time. No ifs or buts. And that is fine.

But for me...
We are not infallible, life is not perfect or black and white all the time...
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Ironically, your view is also black and white. As in the ones that were killed are black and you + the killers are white.
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The recording got alot blur noise and cannot hear what they talk about, maybe polis can send the recording to their forensic department to make the blur sound clearer

Then we will know more about the case

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 5 2025, 02:48 PM)
Actually if think critically, I wonder why they kena follow and kena execute (as per allegation). Any story behind that ?
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If troublemakers keep repeating what they are doing, keep giving problems, there is no need for PDRM to follow SOP, coz SOPs will only prolong the problems. Efficiency is more important.
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It's like, u see rats keep destroying your stuff after multiple warnings, then u poison them, suddenly animal rights NGO come and make noise.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Dec 5 2025, 02:52 PM)
anyway, got criminal record doesn't mean convicted in court. just mean dude is regular customer of police station
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The thing is , if 1 time criminal record you can doubt he was framed. 39 times criminal record cannot be all of them framed unless very serious faceproblem . Ordinary law abiding citizens mana ada such issue punya..
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QUOTE(gobiomani @ Dec 5 2025, 02:51 PM)
I am old enough to appreciate that following rules 100% of the time has its own problems so I agree with your sentiment on the thin grey line. But from what I can observe, these "exceptions" have been a norm for a long time now which is why there is a trust deficit when it comes to our pulis. Publicly exacting vengeance on the criminals to punish them and intimidate their comrades looks good in a movie but in reality it shows a systemic problem where they know they can get away with murder and they do it all the time without thinking twice of the consequences.
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I think the land of the free, home of the brave pon sama or worse...


QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 5 2025, 02:52 PM)
Ironically, your view is also black and white. As in the ones that were killed are black and you + the killers are white.
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I will have the same views if they were Type C perompaks who did what they did...



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QUOTE(hickups @ Dec 4 2025, 12:39 PM)
They must have think will kena tangkap only like normal only...bwk balai...tambah kes jadi 40
Continue....silap haribulan kena shot
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Bukit Aman has opened file?
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Thanks for sharing, its gonna be interesting twist and turn!
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[quote=keybearer,Dec 3 2025, 07:27 PM]
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Between an alleged corrupt police vs an alleged criminal, all I have to say is this;
Nobody whose number of criminal record is more than his age get the benefit of the doubt from me. It doesn't get counted when you're below 10 FFS.
This is what I don't like about Arun's tactics, he picks the most marketable man out of them all and present it like it's all honey and roses.
This kind of tactic is called framing the argument (or lying by omission), it's presenting selective information to lead the readers into forming a conclusion / narrative favorable to you.

Anywho says there ada recording of incident, where can listen?
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Agreed
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Good job PDRM for putting criminals away

The truth is normal citizens can't get police to shoot them even if they ask for it..
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Why TS sus?

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Bukit Aman has opened file?
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Kek pulis investigate pulis. Even my dog knows the outcome.
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QUOTE(Kawekawe @ Dec 6 2025, 12:26 AM)
Good job PDRM for putting criminals away

The truth is normal citizens can't get police to shoot them even if they ask for it..
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One of the dead guy had zero crime record but he was killed anyway. So wat now?


 

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