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post Dec 2 2025, 04:54 PM, updated 2d ago

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Malaysian football faces new crisis over multi-million dollar compensation demands from naturalized players

By Hoang Nguyen

Sun 11/30/2025, 04:29 pm (PT)

The Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) faces a new crisis as the seven naturalized players suspended by FIFA for document fraud are now demanding millions of dollars in compensation for their lost income during the ban.

According to Stadium Astro, the seven players are "no longer side by side" with Malaysian football. They are planning to formally file a complaint and demand compensation for financial damages if FAM fails in its appeal against FIFA to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS).

The players, who received heavy penalties including fines and a 12-month ban from football activities, will demand compensation equivalent to at least one year's salary, according to the report.

The financial threat is substantial. President of the Sports Law Association of Malaysia (SLAM), Balbeer Singh, affirmed that the compensation claim will be "completely fair."

Among the seven players, Facundo Garces is the highest-paid, earning a reported salary of $1.1 million. While the salaries of the other players have not been publicly disclosed, the players who represent Malaysia’s biggest club Johor Darul Ta'zim (JDT) club are part of an annual salary fund of up to $12 million, with some receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars each year.

According to Singh, these players will demand compensation of at least one year's salary, and can completely win the lawsuit against FAM if they can prove that they did not intentionally commit the naturalization fraud, which includes document forgery.

"Another option is to reach an agreement between the two sides, and maybe FAM will settle with the players," Singh told Stadium Astro.

FIFA rejected FAM's appeal in early November and upheld its disciplinary decision, which suspends the players from all football activities for a year from Sept. 26 and imposes a fine of 350,000 Swiss franc ($436,000) on FAM.

FIFA's investigation found original birth certificates proving their grandparents were born in Argentina, Brazil, the Netherlands or Spain, not Malaysia as claimed.

FAM is currently in a crisis with the financial consequences of the ongoing case with FIFA. The appeal costs can reach up to millions of dollars, and they have been cut off from funding by both the Malaysian government and several sponsors.
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Tutup FAM and stop all football activities.
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Forgery, cheating , granting citizenship ...nobody gone to jail yet..
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If they loss, how to compensate?

Source from who? Taxpayers?
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its okay, FAM back by rich people

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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 2 2025, 04:58 PM)
Forgery, cheating , granting citizenship ...nobody gone to jail yet..
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Nobody yet $1million.

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in another news portal i read earlier
FAM say want to sue them for falsifying the doc

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QUOTE(giftfre @ Dec 2 2025, 05:03 PM)
FAM ada jualan amal tak?
Baju team 1st gen Mokhtar Dahari , Santokh Singh , Soh Chin Aun dgn signature lelong- lelong.
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the one that really habis is the football player that tried to sue helang.

They better make sure not to go any hotel for negotiation. kekekekkeke
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I dont know much about Malaysia football, but since when the name Facundo Garces is a Malaysian name. Mat saleh celup?
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They r still legally Malaysian. Just use isa arrest.them.
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FAM counter sue them for lying?
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Helang say what can u do?

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QUOTE(PaperClip224 @ Dec 2 2025, 05:06 PM)
in another news portal i read earlier
FAM say want to sue them for falsifying the doc
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FAM sue the player for falsified doc?
Tell me is there really any international footballer so sohai to play for a country without knowing the rules?
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FAM counter sue them for lying?
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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Dec 2 2025, 05:14 PM)
lol
FAM sue the player for falsified doc?
Tell me is there really any international footballer so sohai to play for a country without knowing the rules?
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https://baonghean.vn/en/luat-su-fam-co-co-s...h-10313226.html


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Can straight up throw them in jail for forgery? falsifying ID? I don't really like my tax money used to pay criminals.
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QUOTE(OpenStudio @ Dec 2 2025, 05:01 PM)
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I dont know much about Malaysia football, but since when the name Facundo Garces is a Malaysian name. Mat saleh celup?
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Continental drift theory pls.

Europe and South America drifted away from Mahresia in early 1900s.

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gov must stop funding fam if they are already back by rich.
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QUOTE(PaperClip224 @ Dec 2 2025, 06:06 PM)
in another news portal i read earlier
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Lol didn't FAM already admitted to 'making adjustments'?
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Lol didn't FAM already admitted to 'making adjustments'?
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obviously they were not naturalised. .... oh well....
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100% will settle outside. Hope our taxation didn’t increase due to this...
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Nobody yet $1million.

Pearly tan and LZJ also cannot reach that figure.
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This is the world we live in, ridiculous payment for high value sport/entertainment, peanuts for career that actually serve humanity.
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there goes our football reputation...
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Eh... I thought we should back them up... now turn against us??
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wont solve anything coz kuceng now looking into MMA lol
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wont solve anything coz kuceng now looking into MMA lol
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ignore and move to new toy
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the one that really habis is the football player that tried to sue helang.

They better make sure not to go any hotel for negotiation. kekekekkeke
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QUOTE(acbc @ Dec 2 2025, 04:56 PM)
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better just reform and make a new organisation

MFA.
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It reminds me on the scene of an 🐊 alligator or crocodile trying to soft bite its own wagging tail

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better just reform and make a new organisation

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Shut it down for good. Football players both local or overseas can plan with other country teams. Don't waste taxpayers money.
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This goes beyond football.
FAM - submitted forged original birth certs, claim technical error lol. Why was there a forgery in the first place? You can mistakenly submit an incorrect document, but the act of forging a legal document cannot unintentional.

NRD
- Issued legal birth certs to 7 grandmas without any verification? Is it within the power of the Home Minister? They will claim they did not receive the non-forged birth cert from other countries, but why FIFA can get access to it so easily? Is our sovereignty managed by willfully deceiving people or by idiots who cannot do simple verification? Either way, somebody needs to be responsible, but all we hear is that this is within the power of the Home Minister.
- Issued citizenship to 7 players who do not speak the national language. Again, this is within the power of the Home Minister, and its beyond any questioning.

Result is that our sovereignty has become a laughing stock, but the typical orang kito is quiet. If DAP was involved, all hell would have broke loose. The hypocrisy is vomit inducing.


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Knp taknak pakai player Malaysia? Knp nak cari mat saleh celup jadi Malaysian?


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QUOTE(jaapers @ Dec 2 2025, 07:03 PM)
If DAP was involved, all hell would have broke loose.  The hypocrisy is vomit inducing.
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Luckily certain sensitive ministries will never be helmed by non org kito. Those that involve National security and immigration especially.
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Luckily certain sensitive ministries will never be helmed by non org kito. Those that involve National security and immigration especially.
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DAP: phew, what a relief..
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How can they sue? According to FAM nothing happened
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This move proves that they're 100% not msian citizen. how can u sue the helang that we all know and love if u're a true citizen
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Tmj said he will pay all their legal fees. Maybe can persuade him to pay them their claims also..,
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we all know MY football is shit and will never go far

why we trying so hard ???
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QUOTE(jaapers @ Dec 2 2025, 07:03 PM)
This goes beyond football. 
FAM - submitted forged original birth certs, claim technical error lol.  Why was there a forgery in the first place? You can mistakenly submit an incorrect document, but the act of forging a legal document cannot unintentional.

NRD
- Issued legal birth certs to 7 grandmas without any verification?  Is it within the power of the Home Minister?  They will claim they did not receive the non-forged birth cert from other countries, but why FIFA can get access to it so easily?  Is our sovereignty managed by willfully deceiving people or by idiots who cannot do simple verification?  Either way, somebody needs to be responsible, but all we hear is that this is within the power of the Home Minister. 
- Issued citizenship to 7 players who do not speak the national language.  Again, this is within the power of the Home Minister, and its beyond any questioning. 

Result is that our sovereignty has become a laughing stock, but the typical orang kito is quiet.  If DAP was involved, all hell would have broke loose.  The hypocrisy is vomit inducing.
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what hypocrisy?
majority of "orang kito" that are not from J questioning all those shit on social media, only J macais plotek plotek
you dont see huuhaa because politicians and their dogs dont bring up this issue, afraid kacau rice bowl
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QUOTE(ezze22 @ Dec 2 2025, 05:10 PM)
I dont know much about Malaysia football, but since when the name Facundo Garces is a Malaysian name. Mat saleh celup?
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If at least one grandparent was born here, the player got chance to represent Malaysia. The problem is, none of their grandparents were born here. 🤣
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Dec 2 2025, 04:58 PM)
Forgery, cheating , granting citizenship ...nobody gone to jail yet..
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These are banned from playing i.e loss of income, naturally demand compensation.


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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 3 2025, 03:27 PM)
what hypocrisy?
majority of orang kito that are not from J questioning all those shit on social media, only J macais plotek plotek
you dont see huuhaa because politicians and their dogs dont bring up this issue, afraid kacau rice bowl
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Somewhat agree, its not a big issue because no politicians brought it up. But I'm talking about the response from orang kito. If this was a DAP scheme, you would bet facebook, tiktok would be filled with death threats, extreme toxic racism, balik tongsan. You would see them scream and say agenda cina to bring in more foreigners, melayu hilang kuasa and all that shit.
But here, even though some are blaming the helang, look at the level of hate shown, its like 10% of the hate level they would show to a DAP minister. And there are others to be blamed, NRD, home ministry, you hardly see anyone calling for their heads. If DAP was the home minister, you can bet that he would be getting maximum hate level and calls for resignation.
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By rakyat you mean?

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Dec 2 2025, 07:55 PM)
Cause FAM want to sue them.
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Its PAGAR.. FYI
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Forgery, cheating , granting citizenship ...nobody gone to jail yet..
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 3 2025, 04:46 PM)
Its PAGAR.. FYI
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It’s pegar.

The Malay kiasan always is Pegar

But Donno which publication start use pagar
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QUOTE(jaapers @ Dec 3 2025, 03:36 PM)
Somewhat agree, its not a big issue because no politicians brought it up.  But I'm talking about the response from orang kito.  If this was a DAP scheme, you would bet facebook, tiktok would be filled with death threats, extreme toxic racism, balik tongsan.  You would see them scream and say agenda cina to bring in more foreigners, melayu hilang kuasa and all that shit. 
But here, even though some are blaming the helang, look at the level of hate shown, its like 10% of the hate level they would show to a DAP minister.  And there are others to be blamed, NRD, home ministry, you hardly see anyone calling for their heads.  If DAP was the home minister, you can bet that he would be getting maximum hate level and calls for resignation.
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Hannah Yeoh is menteri belia dan sukan from DAP, but people dont call for her head also?
Told you it's because politicians and their cytro dogs don't fan the fire the same way they do to antagonize nons, mostly because they don't dare as this involve yellow helang.
If they have the same energy, more ignorant "orang kito"s will understand the magnitude of this issue.
You know they don't really seek for news and shit by themselves, they only react to what is spoonfed to them. Sapa suruh JKOM PH so sampah.

Also really 10%? Boy you should really look into malays side of social media. They talk shit so much about meow I dunno they kena tangkap onot already. Lulz.

You are damn old already, why still fall into this trap. Those racial play is classic BN trap since mahathir era.

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 3 2025, 03:52 PM)
Hannah Yeoh is menteri belia dan sukan from DAP, but people dont call for her head also?
Told you it's because politicians and their cytro dogs don't fan the fire the same way they do to antagonize nons, mostly because they don't dare as this involve yellow helang.
If they have the same energy, more ignorant "orang kito"s will understand the magnitude of this issue.
You know they don't really seek for news and shit by themselves, they only react to what is spoonfed to them. Sapa suruh JKOM PH so sampah.

Also really 10%? Boy you should really look into malays side of social media. They talk shit so much about meow I dunno they kena tangkap onot already. Lulz.

You are damn old already, why still fall into this trap. Those racial play is classic BN trap since mahathir era.
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call for menteri belia dan sukan for what?
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Dec 3 2025, 04:00 PM)
call for menteri belia dan sukan for what?
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if they are dumb enough to be racist because of DAP, they will just relate everything to Hannah just because she is menteri belia dan sukan
i don't see anything like that? its surely because those cytros dont play this issue at all to keep their rice bowl
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 3 2025, 03:52 PM)
Hannah Yeoh is menteri belia dan sukan from DAP, but people dont call for her head also?
Told you it's because politicians and their cytro dogs don't fan the fire the same way they do to antagonize nons, mostly because they don't dare as this involve yellow helang.
If they have the same energy, more ignorant "orang kito"s will understand the magnitude of this issue.
You know they don't really seek for news and shit by themselves, they only react to what is spoonfed to them. Sapa suruh JKOM PH so sampah.

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Everyone who knows about this story already knows that sports ministry cant do anything about FAM. I'm talking about the culpability of the NRD and the home ministry here, its clear they are one of the main culprit, the one is the compromising malaysia's sovereignty.
QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 3 2025, 03:52 PM)
Also really 10%? Boy you should really look into malays side of social media. They talk shit so much about meow I dunno they kena tangkap onot already. Lulz.
Any death threats? Okla, no one will probably have balls to threathen helang but still, it shows the hypocrisy.

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Buang kerakyatan esok

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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 3 2025, 04:03 PM)
if they are dumb enough to be racist because of DAP, they will just relate everything to Hannah just because she is menteri belia dan sukan
i don't see anything like that? its surely because those cytros dont play this issue at all to keep their rice bowl
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but how to relate/blame, when whoever in the menteri belia dan sukan cannot do jack shit on this case?
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Dec 3 2025, 04:05 PM)
but how to relate/blame, when whoever in the menteri belia dan sukan cannot do jack shit on this case?
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bro if people can think logically, no one will undi PN.
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Dec 3 2025, 03:49 PM)
It’s pegar.

The Malay kiasan always is Pegar

But Donno which publication start use pagar
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I love how you are so confidently incorrect.

Burung pegar memang makan padi.

So logically you would never entrust burung pegar to jaga your padi in the first place.. Kerana kalau burung pegar khianati kita dan makan padi kita, itu adalah logik. Kalau itu adalah logik, dia tak ngam la nak dijadikan peribahasa.

Pagar makan padi on the other hand is because its used as a hyperbole, as is the case with most Malay peribahasa..

Pagar tu bukan benda hidup, semua org tau mana boleh pagar "makan" padi.. Tak logik kalau sebuah pagar makan padi kita.. Jadi pagar itu merupkan sesuata yang menang kita tak akan expect utk khianati kita..

And Pagar on the other hand would help to keep other animals out that would actually destroy the padi.. Jadi when the pagar actually fails to do its job, hence the peribahasa is referring to someone or something that you trusted has betrayed you...


Similarly: senjata makan tuan.
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meow, wa x takut siapa,....meow meow meow
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 3 2025, 04:07 PM)
bro if people can think logically, no one will undi PN.
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Dunno what you and jaapers
Is yapping about

But all I know, even pmx is powerless to do anything on this case
Change to PN, moomoi also cannot do anything
Pas? Same
Mahathir? Sama jer
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is FAM going to claim that doctored birth certs come from the players cause the players are saying that they didn't submit the doctored birth certs to FAM?
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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 3 2025, 04:12 PM)
is FAM going to claim that doctored birth certs come from the players cause the players are saying that they didn't submit the doctored birth certs to FAM?
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Is there possibilities for them 7 to turn witness and spill the beans
Will that get them the reprieve


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QUOTE(ReoAyanami @ Dec 3 2025, 04:12 PM)
is FAM going to claim that doctored birth certs come from the players cause the players are saying that they didn't submit the doctored birth certs to FAM?
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FAM will claim that their staff was just learning photoshop at that time, somehow the learning exercises was to modify birthcerts and it was mistakenly submitted by their staff.
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Just tutup FAM and channel all funding to BAM lah. Useless to play football.
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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 3 2025, 05:08 PM)
I love how you are so confidently incorrect.

Burung pegar memang makan padi.

So logically you would never entrust burung pegar to jaga your padi in the first place.. Kerana kalau burung pegar khianati kita dan makan padi kita, itu adalah logik. Kalau itu adalah logik, dia tak ngam la nak dijadikan peribahasa.

Pagar makan padi on the other hand is because its used as a hyperbole, as is the case with most Malay peribahasa..

Pagar tu bukan benda hidup, semua org tau mana boleh pagar "makan" padi.. Tak logik kalau sebuah pagar makan padi kita.. Jadi pagar itu merupkan sesuata yang menang kita tak akan expect utk khianati kita..

And Pagar on the other hand would help to keep other animals out that would actually destroy the padi.. Jadi when the pagar actually fails to do its job, hence the peribahasa is referring to someone or something that you trusted has betrayed you...
Similarly: senjata makan tuan.
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The correct Malay peribahasa is:

✅ Harapkan pegar, pegar makan padi

Explanation
• Pegar = sejenis burung (a type of pheasant).
• The proverb means: We rely on someone to protect us, but that very person betrays us.

Why the confusion?

Many people mistakenly write pagar because the literal translation (“expecting the fence to guard the rice field”) sounds logical — but the traditional proverb actually uses pegar (the bird), not pagar.

So the correct form is:

👉 Harapkan pegar, pegar makan padi


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QUOTE(masamura @ Dec 3 2025, 04:19 PM)
Just tutup FAM and channel all funding to BAM lah. Useless to play football.
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Who decide to close down FAM?
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QUOTE(cuddlybubblyteddy @ Dec 3 2025, 04:22 PM)
The correct Malay peribahasa is:
👉 Harapkan pegar, pegar makan padi
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Like this also need to use chatGPT, cant use your puny brain to think for a moment? No wonder so bodoh.

Simpan sikit bodoh tu kasi cucu cicit hang

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If you can read, maybe you would learn something new today.

Or stay a dumbass, either way i dont really care as its not my problem and doesn't reflect badly on me

https://www.facebook.com/hasanuddinyusofoff...110239453799478


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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 3 2025, 04:08 PM)
I love how you are so confidently incorrect.

Burung pegar memang makan padi.

So logically you would never entrust burung pegar to jaga your padi in the first place.. Kerana kalau burung pegar khianati kita dan makan padi kita, itu adalah logik. Kalau itu adalah logik, dia tak ngam la nak dijadikan peribahasa.

Pagar makan padi on the other hand is because its used as a hyperbole, as is the case with most Malay peribahasa..

Pagar tu bukan benda hidup, semua org tau mana boleh pagar "makan" padi.. Tak logik kalau sebuah pagar makan padi kita.. Jadi pagar itu merupkan sesuata yang menang kita tak akan expect utk khianati kita..

And Pagar on the other hand would help to keep other animals out that would actually destroy the padi.. Jadi when the pagar actually fails to do its job, hence the peribahasa is referring to someone or something that you trusted has betrayed you...
Similarly: senjata makan tuan.
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LEL
pagar ke
pegar ke
what is the FAM stand in the one of public perspective?
To me they already turn to darkside just to coverup shithole. Do they held accountability to safeguard our nation football to the world highest standard?
NO...FUCUK....NO.....

That's why I strike the words pagar
There is a similar idiom saying
eg
"trusting the fox to guard the henhouse"
Do fox is vegetarian?
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QUOTE(acbc @ Dec 2 2025, 04:56 PM)
Tutup FAM and stop all football activities.
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That's why someone moved to another sport after this scandal
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QUOTE(masamura @ Dec 3 2025, 04:19 PM)
Just tutup FAM and channel all funding to BAM lah. Useless to play football.
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U jgn lebih lebih...nanti org cakap kenapa BAM funding banyak type c

 

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