P2 jilatists sudah mari, Sudah booking onot?
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 Dec 1 2025, 10:13 PM
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975 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lokap Polis  
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 1 2025, 10:09 PM) Why the battery also got contract period? Seems like you're forever locked in a contract with Perodua. you can early terminate the contract by selling the car what. let a the new suckers sign a new contract to use the car. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:16 PM
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#42
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975 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lokap Polis
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 1 2025, 10:02 PM) battery is less of an issue, most of the ev fire & battery deterioration always get overblown news coverage so the mediocre 160,000km warranty were due to electronic and electric components are likely to fails, not the batteries?but the real one is the inverter power management issue, like korean kia hyundai iccu failure is most well known even occasionally byd also have this issue |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:18 PM
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Newbie
38 posts Joined: Jun 2018
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 1 2025, 10:13 PM) you can early terminate the contract by selling the car what. let a the new suckers sign a new contract to use the car. If still got people want to buy and get another lease |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:22 PM
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409 posts Joined: Nov 2009 From: Internet
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Why is it not being rebadged a good thing though?
P2 got the reliability confidence precisely because it pushes out rebadged cars. Now customers are taking risk on EV tech AND P2's attempt at that new tech. This one better wait early adopters first. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:23 PM
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975 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lokap Polis
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 1 2025, 10:18 PM) If still got people want to buy and get another lease i might enter when the body price is rm40k lel. hope that time battery subscription cheaper too, or got battery upgrade instead. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:27 PM
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500 posts Joined: Dec 2019
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 1 2025, 09:31 PM) the true cost of the car isn't RM80k but more like RM100+k It is not unlimited mileage lol. You still need to pay for the charge. buying that car to do grab is kinda  but i agree this unlimited mileage is good for doing grab If this can be regarded as unlimited mileage (feel free to use as much as you like, but you pay for the charge), ALL petrol cars are unlimited mileage. At 100+k, might as well get a vios. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:29 PM
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Elite
1,704 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang
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do you think EV tech for 9 years is long year?
also i saw keyword "resell value"... |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:31 PM
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> Takahashi Kyoko
lmao don't sully the legendary Takahashi name. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:32 PM
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Newbie
38 posts Joined: Jun 2018
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 1 2025, 10:23 PM) i might enter when the body price is rm40k lel. hope that time battery subscription cheaper too, or got battery upgrade instead. The problem is according to some sources you still need to sign a 9-year contract lease for the battery. Which I'm not sure is true or not, but it's kinda unclear. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:33 PM
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Junior Member
258 posts Joined: Feb 2023
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After 9 years siapa mau beli? 😁
You're stuck with it until it dies, then can buang? 😆 |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:33 PM
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3,580 posts Joined: Oct 2007 From: everywhere in sabah
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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 1 2025, 10:27 PM) It is not unlimited mileage lol. You still need to pay for the charge. it is...that's why it's leasedIf this can be regarded as unlimited mileage (feel free to use as much as you like, but you pay for the charge), ALL petrol cars are unlimited mileage. At 100+k, might as well get a vios. you pay for it and they will replace it anytime it failed but have to remember, it's only for the battery....not the motor |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:34 PM
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291 posts Joined: Aug 2019
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>you buy the car and lease the battery
dont give them ideas lah if q-ev turns out popular then every other carmakers will do the same lol  but i understand that p2 has to do this way otherwise their first ev will be 110k car |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:40 PM
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500 posts Joined: Dec 2019
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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Dec 1 2025, 10:34 PM) >you buy the car and lease the battery I think it might work for a more expensive model. The main reason this sounds so stupid is that the base price was set at 80k, then they bump it up to 110k but hide it through some amazing mental gymnastics.dont give them ideas lah if q-ev turns out popular then every other carmakers will do the same lol but i understand that p2 has to do this way otherwise their first ev will be 110k car But if you change this car to a 200k-300k one, then you offer the customer, a battery lease at 30k. It might seem easier to swallow. |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:42 PM
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Junior Member
555 posts Joined: Aug 2013 From: Bolehland
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Kesian
If you have to justify selling a product to this extent, then the product itself is a failure lulz Good products sell itself, no need to try hard one |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:43 PM
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All Stars
13,470 posts Joined: Jan 2012
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Personally I think P2 is opening themselves to LOD in the future. So if I'm leasing the battery from you, and your battery terbakar and my car total lost, apa maciam kira? Your battery burn my car.
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Dec 1 2025, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(zerorating @ Dec 1 2025, 09:56 PM) meanwhile many ktard here believe lifepo4 wont break. keh keh keh. In this dave2d video, he got mention his 8 years old Tesla only hold 80% of the charge. (Start 0:30)at usa, people brag their lead acid battery lasts 7-8 years, over here banyak dah tukar sebelum 2 years use. NMC battery banyak kong because of calendar aging. honesly manufacturer taking tons of risks giving 8 years warranty here. however i wont buy one because my fuel cost is less than rm275 per month  also body price of rm80k is so expense.https://youtu.be/EbWN-UIZXJI?si=EKSNPf5uziL0z3-d |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 10:44 PM) In this dave2d video, he got mention his 8 years old Tesla only hold 80% of the charge. (Start 0:30) Which is pretty good for a 8 years old...https://youtu.be/EbWN-UIZXJI?si=EKSNPf5uziL0z3-d gobiomani liked this post
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Dec 1 2025, 10:49 PM
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975 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: Lokap Polis
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Dec 1 2025, 10:44 PM) In this dave2d video, he got mention his 8 years old Tesla only hold 80% of the charge. (Start 0:30) cold climate vs hot climate.https://youtu.be/EbWN-UIZXJI?si=EKSNPf5uziL0z3-d personal experience all sort of batteries are aging faster and prone to failure here. lifepo4 are not any different. see below for long duration lifepo4(calendar aging) run, could see 7.5c differences can make a whole lots of differences in term of battery wear: case 1 - 55c case 2 - 47.5c case 3 - 40c  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/35...63f307/download This post has been edited by zerorating: Dec 1 2025, 10:55 PM |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:50 PM
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TLDR
not going to buy it u suka u buy |
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Dec 1 2025, 10:53 PM
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When perodua EV owner realized when they paying battery leasing at the same time: they need to pay charging fee as well
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