QUOTE(fuzzy @ Dec 2 2025, 10:39 AM)
type c fart got pork dna inside that will fuck up the produa batteryP2 jilatists sudah mari, Sudah booking onot?
P2 jilatists sudah mari, Sudah booking onot?
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Dec 2 2025, 10:59 AM
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Dec 2 2025, 11:00 AM
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Dec 2 2025, 11:01 AM
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Dec 2 2025, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 2 2025, 11:01 AM) So even after 9 years u can only use it until SoH 70%? Then you are forced to get a new battery at a new 9 year lease? 70% battery health is just as good as dead.Or just scrap the car? ![]() go see those laptop, hendphone battery, the wear level/degradation are accelerate past that 70% wear level. |
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Dec 2 2025, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Dec 2 2025, 10:57 AM) worse than renting ler. renting no need buy RM80k, normally pay deposit QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 2 2025, 11:01 AM) So even after 9 years u can only use it until SoH 70%? Then you are forced to get a new battery at a new 9 year lease? Under normal warranty, spoilt, change at no charges and warranty continue until end. -> nothing to payOr just scrap the car? ![]() Under P2, battery spoilt, need to buy, disguise as new 9 years leasing contract... No warranty at all This post has been edited by Iceman74: Dec 2 2025, 11:14 AM |
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Dec 2 2025, 11:12 AM
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Perodua is digging their own grave by selling this QVE with BAAS, if the car price sell around RM60-65k plus BAAS maybe ada buyer lagi, but RM80k is a bit steep.
So many question will arise if they sell battery separately: 1. What if battery broke out fire/smoke causing the car need a huge chunk of money to restore? is it paid by battery insurance? 2. What if the battery under carriage battery keep scratch and and battery emit smoke? is perodua going to replace battery entirely? 3. What if the owner go sabotage the battery and causing battery damage? is perodua going to replace the battery? 4. By placing tracker on the battery, is it violate PDPA? literally Perodua know where u stay and where u went. If hacker infiltrate Perodua server those data will be expose. Perodua is building QVE based on resale value concern, let me tell u at 2nd hand car market, it doesn't work that way, if a 2nd hand car dealer unable to find buyers at certain price range, they will definitely lower down the value until it has buyer. Just go see emas 7 premium one year car selling around RM95-98k at Carro website, most likely the owner selling back around RM85-88k. So just one year car easily depreciate 30%, this QVE even if outwin normal EV car, the depreciation rate will still be around 20% on first year, for example most likely selling back at RM64k (based on RM80k buying price). Buyer also know they have to pay RM297/month for the battery as well. This post has been edited by yhtan: Dec 2 2025, 11:14 AM |
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Dec 2 2025, 11:14 AM
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oh oh oh ...The EV supporters are fighting each other now..
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Dec 2 2025, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 2 2025, 11:11 AM) worse than renting ler. It is not merompak it is better than merompak.renting no need buy RM80k, normally pay deposit Under normal warranty, spoilt, change at no changes and warranty continue until end. -> nothing to pay Under P2, battery spoilt, need to buy, disguise as new 9 years leasing contract... No warranty at all |
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Dec 2 2025, 11:15 AM
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This Perodua use to do grab is good..imagine one day charge 1 time then u can earn without petrol prices
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Dec 2 2025, 11:15 AM
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The term leasing , we could change to a new battery anytime?
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Dec 2 2025, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Dec 2 2025, 11:01 AM) So even after 9 years u can only use it until SoH 70%? Then you are forced to get a new battery at a new 9 year lease? topkek after 9 years sign another lease agreement with Perodua with new battery, if low mileage user memang no need consider this QVEOr just scrap the car? ![]() |
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Dec 2 2025, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 2 2025, 11:12 AM) Perodua is digging their own grave by selling this QVE with BAAS, if the car price sell around RM60-65k plus BAAS maybe ada buyer lagi, but RM80k is a bit steep. 4. no because you sign away that info already, and it's the car infotainment screen that do it, for ccp car as far as like my car zeekr 7x it's disabled unless you go and enable itSo many question will arise if they sell battery separately: 1. What if battery broke out fire/smoke causing the car need a huge chunk of money to restore? is it paid by battery insurance? 2. What if the battery under carriage battery keep scratch and and battery emit smoke? is perodua going to replace battery entirely? 3. What if the owner go sabotage the battery and causing battery damage? is perodua going to replace the battery? 4. By placing tracker on the battery, is it violate PDPA? literally Perodua know where u stay and where u went. If hacker infiltrate Perodua server those data will be expose. Perodua is building QVE based on resale value concern, let me tell u at 2nd hand car market, it doesn't work that way, if a 2nd hand car dealer unable to find buyers at certain price range, they will definitely lower down the value until it has buyer. Just go see emas 7 premium one year car selling around RM95-98k at Carro website, most likely the owner selling back around RM85-88k. So just one year car easily depreciate 30%, this QVE even if outwin normal EV car, the depreciation rate will still be around 20% on first year, for example most likely selling back at RM64k (based on RM80k buying price). Buyer also know they have to pay RM297/month for the battery as well. and there's a sim card slot hidden inside that dashboard that's always active with internet plan to do that This post has been edited by junsheng: Dec 2 2025, 11:20 AM yhtan liked this post
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Dec 2 2025, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Dec 1 2025, 09:27 PM) According to online sources, if below 70% health or issues with battery not due to user problem, perodua will change FOC as many times as needed within 9 years. If accident, insurance will cover the cost of repair or replacement. If after leasing period ends after 9 years, no need to change or renew leasing or pay. But battery remains with Perodua ownership. If want to change battery, sign a new 9 year lease. This scheme is stupid. if sum insured 80k, insurance protect only the car without battery? let say accident, battery mampus, owner need continue pay 275/month? p2 will give new battery as replacement? and restart 9 years? p2 making lost? or p2 lease battery they sendiri buy insurance to cover their property (batt) This post has been edited by vez: Dec 2 2025, 11:22 AM |
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Dec 2 2025, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Dec 2 2025, 11:14 AM) come, join unker see EV wannabe fight while unker Enjoy cheap petrol. nebula87 liked this post
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Dec 2 2025, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(vez @ Dec 2 2025, 11:20 AM) if sum insured 80k, insurance protect only the car without battery? let say accident, battery mampus, owner need continue pay 275/month? p2 will give new battery as replacement? and restart 9 years? p2 making lost? or p2 lease battery they sendiri buy insurance to cover their property (batt) 1. Original owner sell the car to Perodua on Year 5 with 80% battery health. 2. Will the new owner only can continue the 80% battery health with 4 years contract remaining @ RM297/m OR 3, Can the new owner insist on getting a new battery with a new 9 year contract @ RM297/m <-- seems like this is fairer, but Perodua will bear the loss. |
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Dec 2 2025, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Dec 2 2025, 12:24 PM) Sum insured is RM80k only. The RM275+8% SST is inclusive of takaful insurance. If accident, battery died, Perodua battery insurance will kick in. Just not sure what happens if: saw somewhere that new owner can choose either 2 or 3 its up to them1. Original owner sell the car to Perodua on Year 5 with 80% battery health. 2. Will the new owner only can continue the 80% battery health with 4 years contract remaining @ RM297/m OR 3, Can the new owner insist on getting a new battery with a new 9 year contract @ RM297/m <-- seems like this is fairer, but Perodua will bear the loss. |
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Dec 2 2025, 12:45 PM
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in 8 or 9 years time, 2025 battery macam intel celeron already la.
and in a few weeks time, u will see this news Malaysian gomen to impose tarriffs on imported EV to protect Perodua This post has been edited by Redhunt: Dec 2 2025, 12:49 PM |
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QUOTE(isr25 @ Dec 2 2025, 12:24 PM) Sum insured is RM80k only. The RM275+8% SST is inclusive of takaful insurance. If accident, battery died, Perodua battery insurance will kick in. Just not sure what happens if: new owner will sure asking for lower price for the car in return for new 9 years leasing agreement, i seriously think this QVE will suffer the same resale value like normal EV.1. Original owner sell the car to Perodua on Year 5 with 80% battery health. 2. Will the new owner only can continue the 80% battery health with 4 years contract remaining @ RM297/m OR 3, Can the new owner insist on getting a new battery with a new 9 year contract @ RM297/m <-- seems like this is fairer, but Perodua will bear the loss. Let say after 5 years, this QVE definitely cannot sell for RM30k, maybe at RM20k or below. New owner going to look at commitment of RM297/mth for another 9 years with Perodua. By 5 years later, definitely the market will pop out a better looking EV at lower price, bigger battery size and higher range. If that happen the resale value going to plunge lower and lower. |
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Dec 2 2025, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 2 2025, 12:45 PM) new owner will sure asking for lower price for the car in return for new 9 years leasing agreement, i seriously think this QVE will suffer the same resale value like normal EV. Yeah the whole resale value angle is just a bit weird, not sure who would be convincedLet say after 5 years, this QVE definitely cannot sell for RM30k, maybe at RM20k or below. New owner going to look at commitment of RM297/mth for another 9 years with Perodua. By 5 years later, definitely the market will pop out a better looking EV at lower price, bigger battery size and higher range. If that happen the resale value going to plunge lower and lower. |
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