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post Nov 30 2025, 01:02 PM, updated 4w ago

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post Nov 30 2025, 01:04 PM

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then why subsidized petrol

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post Nov 30 2025, 01:04 PM

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naikan je lah cukai. walanon suka cukai nanti dapat brim
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:06 PM

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U abolish all subsidy, increase taxes all around from personal to corporate. Then u introduce new taxes.

Fastest way to reduce population in Malaysia.
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:06 PM

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not enough? we now already bising2
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:08 PM

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Pls collect more tax from rich people
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Cukur another justification to tax the "Rich" or "T20" aka urban family earning barely rm12k
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Collected and corrupted? No thx
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even rafizi is saying it

that is why he start his shops Fleximart, kesum

he saying be brave and start your own business


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post Nov 30 2025, 01:15 PM

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easier to reduce GDP so the ratio is better laugh.gif
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:17 PM

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Isn't not enough, it's banyak lari tax .....too many leakages.
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:17 PM

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tak habis2 mau float the ideas of charging more income tax for the general populace.

go collect more tax from the biz/corps la. why the fark gov charge next to zero tax to those tycoons

example: the recent Freeport

Malaysia Energy Hub Tied to King Eyes $35 Billion in Investments
Maharani Freeport Megaproject
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Located within the Muar port limits, the private-sector initiative spans across three purpose-built reclaimed islands and a mainland plot housing an energy hub, deep seaport, industrial park and financial hub, said developer Maharani Energy Gateway Sdn Bhd (MEG).

The freeport is envisioned to offer tax exemptions on energy and maritime businesses, import-duty exemptions on most raw materials and equipment for manufacturing, unrestricted capital and profit repatriation, and allows 100% foreign ownership subject to conditions, according to the project's fact sheet.



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post Nov 30 2025, 01:17 PM

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very simple... set the lowest tax bracket for salary from 0 to 5K at 2% tax rate...

problem solved.
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 30 2025, 02:12 PM)
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:19 PM

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A lot commenters here don’t understand "Raising more revenue through direct and indirect tax" is a broad term and doesn’t necessarily means increasing tax rate. It could also be achieved via

1. increasing tax base - making more types of income, assets and transactions subject to tax

2. improving tax compliance and enforcement - making sure ppl and businesses pay tax.
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:20 PM

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remove subsidies.

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post Nov 30 2025, 01:20 PM

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BUDI already everyone meroyan.

Naik tax you will see more protest.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 30 2025, 01:02 PM)
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We collected more than Brunei. Oh wai...
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:25 PM

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Ok, bump it up to SG level then.

By that fuker logic if we are at SG level tax then we will have SG level service and infrastructure right?

Or that fuker going to come up with another "itu tak buleh, apple orange lychee strawberry" argument?
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now do debt-to-gee dee pee
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Nov 30 2025, 01:25 PM)
Ok, bump it up to SG level then.

By that fuker logic if we are at SG level tax then we will have SG level service and infrastructure right?

Or that fuker going to come up with another "itu tak buleh, apple orange lychee strawberry" argument?
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they should include zakat into the calculation also for taxation.... cos ours here can knock off tax with zakat...

from google:
Zakat Collection
Collection Figures: Zakat collection is managed by individual states, and a national aggregate figure for 2023/2024 was not found in the search results. However, data from key states indicates collections are in the millions to low billions of ringgit per state.
The Selangor Zakat Board collected a record RM1.22 billion in 2024.
Federal Territories (FT) collected RM937.03 million in 2022.

(this is just 1 state and 1 FT)

Personal Income Tax Collection
Total Collection (2023): The Inland Revenue Board of Malaysia (LHDN) collected approximately RM40.96 billion in individual income tax revenue.
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QUOTE(30624770 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:32 PM)
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He havnt paid a single cent AND TAKE YOUR TAX PAYER MONEY IN PRISON.

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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Nov 30 2025, 02:55 PM)
Ok, bump it up to SG level then.

By that fuker logic if we are at SG level tax then we will have SG level service and infrastructure right?

Or that fuker going to come up with another "itu tak buleh, apple orange lychee strawberry" argument?
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Cannot. Small Country EASY to manage.

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post Nov 30 2025, 01:42 PM

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Tax low but debt to gdp ratio high not address? Talk kok punya bankers.
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(upcars @ Nov 30 2025, 01:06 PM)
Fastest way to reduce population in Malaysia.
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lmao no such thing when making babies is the fav. hobby for some.
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post Nov 30 2025, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Nov 30 2025, 01:04 PM)
naikan je lah cukai. walanon suka cukai nanti dapat brim
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Or reduce GDP also can
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post Nov 30 2025, 02:07 PM

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Due to the bad weather resulting in reduced/bad harvests, your chap fan tax gonna increase soon too..
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post Nov 30 2025, 02:14 PM

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U collect 50% tax also no use if most of it goes to those feudal lords and their families. U know, meow2 and helang.
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post Nov 30 2025, 02:16 PM

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collect from all the menteri or politician, sure become number 1
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Nov 30 2025, 01:08 PM)
Pls collect more tax from rich people
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Shallow logic.

The kind of self entitled mentality of the B40 who paid practically zero income tax, enjoyed the most govt assistance while wrong blaming their own frustration in life against ppl who achieved success and foot most of the nation’s bills.
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Zxxxt is the solution?

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made infographic so long, yet embarrased to include the most prominent advice from the World Bank:

reintro the GST.

Najib jugak yang betul.
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post Nov 30 2025, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 30 2025, 02:17 PM)
Shallow logic.

The kind of self entitled mentality of the B40 who paid practically zero income tax, enjoyed the most govt assistance while wrong blaming their own frustration in life against ppl who achieved success and foot most of the nation’s bills.
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OK mr smartass whistling.gif
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post Nov 30 2025, 02:20 PM

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DID THEY CALCULATE CAR TAX INTO THIS OR NOT??

because our cars are taxed heavily. Lanciau
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Nov 30 2025, 01:33 PM)
they should include zakat into the calculation also for taxation.... cos ours here can knock off tax with zakat...

from google:
Zakat Collection
Collection Figures: Zakat collection is managed by individual states, and a national aggregate figure for 2023/2024 was not found in the search results. However, data from key states indicates collections are in the millions to low billions of ringgit per state.
The Selangor Zakat Board collected a record RM1.22 billion in 2024.
Federal Territories (FT) collected RM937.03 million in 2022.

(this is just 1 state and 1 FT)

Personal Income Tax Collection
Total Collection (2023): The Inland Revenue Board of Malaysia (LHDN) collected approximately RM40.96 billion in individual income tax revenue.
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Zakat collected not used on overall citizens, only tax is allowed to be used for every citizen.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 30 2025, 02:17 PM)
Shallow logic.

The kind of self entitled mentality of the B40 who paid practically zero income tax, enjoyed the most govt assistance while wrong blaming their own frustration in life against ppl who achieved success and foot most of the nation’s bills.
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what to do.those employer all greedy one. pay peanut to worker. increment also peanut. so the worker salary not in tax bracket.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 30 2025, 02:21 PM)
Zakat collected not used on overall citizens, only tax is allowed to be used for every citizen.
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Pay zakat no need pay tax ?
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Hak kito.

By the way, should list out how much tax our politicians paid.

And how much tax monies did MOF wasted to make these?

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QUOTE(HasukiiXrd @ Nov 30 2025, 02:23 PM)
Pay zakat no need pay tax ?
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Tax exempt.
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:19 PM)
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It’s easy to echo the popular narrative adored by the general dumb down public, in defiance of logic and real world economy.


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QUOTE(fongsk @ Nov 30 2025, 02:26 PM)
Tax exempt.
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So that's the problem of not enough collection?
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 30 2025, 02:27 PM)
It’s easy to echo the popular narrative adored by the general dumb down public, in defiance of logic and real world economy.


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I appreciate your effort to reply to my (clearly a) shitpost lolz

You don't have to worry, my worldview and perspective towards people are much larger than you.

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All these so called experts with their doctorates conveniently left out that Denmark and Norway are the top 5 in the least corruption.

These experts think with our high corruption index if tax more will channel back to the public?

And here i thought ktards are the best at tokok. Lmao!
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isnt they say after life more important ? hmmmmmm ? maybe ?
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QUOTE(DS51 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:22 PM)
what to do.those employer all greedy one. pay peanut to worker. increment also peanut. so the worker salary not in tax bracket.
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Overtaxed the top bracket and they will move outside the tax jurisdiction. Soon the country will be left with only self entitled parasites leeching on every social support they took for granted while the nation coffers eventually run dried.
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QUOTE(upcars @ Nov 30 2025, 01:06 PM)
U abolish all subsidy, increase taxes all around from personal to corporate. Then u introduce new taxes.

Fastest way to reduce population in Malaysia.
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Also fastest way to change goverment. Guaranteed.
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 30 2025, 12:17 PM)
Isn't not enough, it's banyak lari tax .....too many leakages.
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with e invoice, let's see how far they can run..
with this system, when big ticket items are purchased, your TIN is a must... sooner rather than later, LHDN will come a calling..

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Umno and BMX only wanted to tax businesses and avoid general public.

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QUOTE(KenM @ Nov 30 2025, 02:36 PM)
with e invoice, let's see how far they can run..
with this system, when big ticket items are purchased, your TIN is a must... sooner rather than later, LHDN will come a calling..
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It doesn't cover all businesses lo ....
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QUOTE(Freshmeat21 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:25 PM)
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Hak kito.

By the way, should list out how much tax our politicians paid.

And how much tax monies did MOF wasted to make these?
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When I saw this image, I tried asking Gemini for an explanation, and it responded that Malaysia will face a “fiscal dilemma.” even right now.
As tax collection decreases due in part to the shrinking non-Bumiputera population and the declining number of taxable corporations
Malaysia may eventually reach a point where there is not enough revenue to support development.


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QUOTE(HasukiiXrd @ Nov 30 2025, 02:27 PM)
So that's the problem of not enough collection?
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Nah, the amount is not huge.

Gov shd encourage REAL FDI and not potential FDI…. 😂😂😂😂😂
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 30 2025, 01:41 PM)
It doesn't cover all businesses  lo ....
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for those who do business less than rm500k/yr... but if the person buys a car, or from a company over that limit, they will require your details...
the government may revert to every businesses, bo one knows..
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Nov 30 2025, 02:17 PM)
Shallow logic.

The kind of self entitled mentality of the B40 who paid practically zero income tax, enjoyed the most govt assistance while wrong blaming their own frustration in life against ppl who achieved success and foot most of the nation’s bills.
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Agree.. should have headcount tax. Those that buat anak like nobody's business should pay higher taxes .
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QUOTE(KenM @ Nov 30 2025, 03:01 PM)
for those who do business less than rm500k/yr... but if the person buys a car, or from a company over that limit, they will require your details...
the government may revert to every businesses, bo one knows..
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Who would be on a right mind to buy cash for a over limit business sales revenue. You don't understand the reason for the below 500k annual sales thing meh... you see all those roadside stalls & warong warong ...got it?
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:17 PM)
Who would be on a right mind to buy cash for a over limit business sales revenue. You don't understand the reason for the below 500k annual sales thing meh... you see all those roadside stalls & warong warong ...got it?
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those who buy from the warong, would eventually need to but a big ticket item... or even the warong seller may need to buy a big ticket item..
so their details will be captured...so eventually everyone will be contributing to taxes and it will add to the total collection...
only tax n death are certain..

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want me pay more tax ? then let me choose which sector the tax I contributed to goes to.

TBH I doesn't want it goes to tangkap basah team , Jakim.
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so many b40 here no need pay tax, how?
gov also don't want enforce strictly to collect tax from org kito

those bazaar stall owner got 7-10k sales a day
Ada bayar tax tak?

20% of tax payer contributing 80% of tax
If not second bottom in the region memang ada hantu
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increase more tax is just direct kill middle class while middle class is what drive the workforce of malaysia also.

should cut more subsidies, tax b40. future b40 will think more before they breed
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QUOTE(ja836kyau @ Nov 28 2025, 12:38 PM)
Thats why dont understand Malaysia mindset.

Spent billions to build TRX etc when office vacancy is already high.

Should just build 100 lane customs 24x7 in JB to suck dry Singapore domestic consumption worth hundreds of billions of Singapore dollars every year.

After all, Singapore accounted for 60% of Malaysia tourists every year.

But Malaysia no balls to do this bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif
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gaji 3k pun tak cukup makan lagi nak tax ? nak makan ini .. ranting.gif

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AI Overview
Malaysia's tax position in ASEAN is complex; it is not definitively lower or higher across the board but varies by the type of tax
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Overall Tax Burden (Tax-to-GDP Ratio): Malaysia's tax-to-GDP ratio (13.1% in 2023) is actually lower than the average for the Asia-Pacific region and below several ASEAN peers, including Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, and the Philippines. This suggests a lower overall tax collection relative to the size of its economy.

Corporate Income Tax (CIT): Malaysia's standard corporate tax rate of 24% (for large companies) is among the highest in ASEAN, significantly higher than Singapore's flat 17% rate, but lower than the Philippines' 30%.
However, for SMEs, Malaysia offers competitive, lower rates (e.g., 15% on the first MYR 150,000).

Personal Income Tax (PIT): Malaysia's highest marginal personal income tax rate (up to 30%) is lower than the top rates in Indonesia, the Philippines, Vietnam, and Thailand (which can reach 35%). It is, however, higher than Singapore's top rate of 24%.
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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Nov 30 2025, 03:43 PM)
so many b40 here no need pay tax, how?
gov also don't want enforce strictly to collect tax from org kito

those bazaar stall owner got 7-10k sales a day
Ada bayar tax tak?

20% of tax payer contributing 80% of tax
If not second bottom in the region memang ada hantu
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world bank already advised: reinstate GST!

yes, even pasar malam also can kena GST as long as gov facilitate the system accordingly.

with GST. regardless of your ethnicity, income bracket, immigrants, citizens and even tourists, from legitimate or shadow economy, ALL kena tax fairly. you spend more, you kena more, simple and straightforward.

blame LGE for removing GST.
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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Nov 30 2025, 04:06 PM)
world bank already advised: reinstate GST!

yes, even pasar malam also can kena GST as long as gov facilitate the system accordingly.

with GST. regardless of your ethnicity, income bracket, immigrants, citizens and even tourists, from legitimate or shadow economy, ALL kena tax fairly. you spend more, you kena more, simple and straightforward.

blame LGE for removing GST.
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A lot of people do not realize now SST structure is charging multiple taxes along the same revenue stream. It means producer 1 is being charged SST, then producer 1 sells to producer 2 and producer 2 is also being charged SST, etc. At this point, SST could be collecting even more money than GST. Reinstating GST is no longer the sure fire way to get more taxes, it might even get less.
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Many goods/services used to be exempted under GST is being charged SST now too. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(vhs @ Nov 30 2025, 04:19 PM)
A lot of people do not realize now SST structure is charging multiple taxes along the same revenue stream. It means producer 1 is being charged SST, then producer 1 sells to producer 2 and producer 2 is also being charged SST, etc. At this point, SST could be collecting even more money than GST. Reinstating GST is no longer the sure fire way to get more taxes, it might even get less.
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the whole point of argument for the past 2-3 pages is about fairness in tax. not about revenue.

and even if SST indeed collected more, the unfairness still persists.

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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Nov 30 2025, 04:23 PM)
the whole point of argument for the past 2-3 pages is about fairness in tax. not about revenue.

and even if SST indeed collected more, the unfairness still persists.
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But this article is about collecting more taxes, not about fairness. whistling.gif

Yes, there are a lot of unfairness in current SST structure. But it is also said to be "targeted" tax collection so that those more well off will pay more. Looks at the recent private sector dividend tax and capital gain tax in asset disposal.

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QUOTE(letitsnow @ Nov 30 2025, 04:06 PM)
world bank already advised: reinstate GST!

yes, even pasar malam also can kena GST as long as gov facilitate the system accordingly.

with GST. regardless of your ethnicity, income bracket, immigrants, citizens and even tourists, from legitimate or shadow economy, ALL kena tax fairly. you spend more, you kena more, simple and straightforward.

blame LGE for removing GST.
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Only gst matter?
Those roadside nasi lemak ramly burger stall earn big during bazaar, earned way more than m40 annually with just 1 bazaar sales macam mana?

Those baru la the reason why low tax collected
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Look at our corruption and wastage.

Nah no thanks. Taxation is theft.
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QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:45 PM)
When I saw this image, I tried asking Gemini for an explanation, and it responded that Malaysia will face a “fiscal dilemma.” even right now.
As tax collection decreases due in part to the shrinking non-Bumiputera population and the declining number of taxable corporations
Malaysia may eventually reach a point where there is not enough revenue to support development.
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Interesting take. This basically says a portion of the demographic is sinking the ship
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I knew a businessman pays million in Z instead of income tax, because he say why want pay tax, if pay tax also gov simply use the money.

if all type M have this mentality really gg malaysia
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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Nov 30 2025, 04:42 PM)
Only gst matter?
Those roadside nasi lemak ramly burger stall earn big during bazaar, earned way more than m40 annually with just 1 bazaar sales macam mana?

Those baru la the reason why low tax collected
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The problem is not that enough taxes collected 🤦‍♀️ but the way tax is collected and being spent

With BMX in place no matter how much taxes being collected 🤦‍♀️ the way he spent is the actual problem

GST need to be in place then followed fiscal discipline and cut spending and cut the govt size with less ministers in place
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Collect dari keluarga Bijan dulu..
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must implement GST on the gerai jual pisang goreng, most of them drive alphard to pick up the banana
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QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Nov 30 2025, 02:45 PM)
When I saw this image, I tried asking Gemini for an explanation, and it responded that Malaysia will face a “fiscal dilemma.” even right now.
As tax collection decreases due in part to the shrinking non-Bumiputera population and the declining number of taxable corporations
Malaysia may eventually reach a point where there is not enough revenue to support development.
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then maybe it is time to change the tax law....


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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Nov 30 2025, 01:17 PM)
very simple... set the lowest tax bracket for salary from 0 to 5K at 2% tax rate...

problem solved.
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Another tard who think tax collection only from income tax

Reintro gst solve problem and collect more
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Braindead country tha5 decided below 3k salary no tax.

Although minimal we still.must tax. So the rakyat understand a bit about tax system. Also the main reason why vandalism so damn high in low socio area. Lesedaram civik literally zero. They think everything goverent provided fall from the sky
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GST is tax or not?
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Gov do better please

Pull in high investor foreign company do business here then hire locals

You do think many times when people get good salary then can talk about high tax


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that's why need e-invoice or gst :X
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GST! Every bloody Tom, Dick and Harry also need to pay. T20 spend more will need to pay more, thank you very much. Those fake B40s who evade tax and those B40 who refused to improve themselves or make rational decision still need to pay their fucking dues.
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No tq. Those who want to pay more feel free do donasi. Don't simply call other to pay.

Company not enough revenue cover also look to cut wastage and expense. Only public sector keep on seek to expand bureaucracy even when know it is wastage.
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This is the very reason why Najib has to implement GST. Malaysia needed such reform but Pakatan want to go back to cave era
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I agree to pay more tax if those in authority who are caught for corruption, misappropriating funds, and stealing from govt coffers are executed.
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I remember Pakatan saying, if there are no corruption, there is no need for GST

Funny thing is, after they became the government, they start to introducing more and more taxes. Digital tax. Sugar Tax etc.


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Knowing Glord, pobably that's what he's planning all along, or has done so while using otger mediums to justify his rear end.
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Knowing Glord, pobably that's what he's planning all along, or has done so while using otger mediums to justify his rear end.
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I think he's already planning for it. But scared of backlash.
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Gst is the fair tax collection.
M40 already overburdened
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QUOTE(Satan Fallen One @ Nov 30 2025, 02:25 PM)
Ok, bump it up to SG level then.

By that fuker logic if we are at SG level tax then we will have SG level service and infrastructure right?

Or that fuker going to come up with another "itu tak buleh, apple orange lychee strawberry" argument?
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Singkie where got petrol subsidy?

Our gomen gip how much? 30-40billion rm in petrol and diesel subsidy?

Yet kturds everydey buakke tered why mesia not high income country like singkie???
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1. tax those earning from forex/crypto

2. tax those roadsite nasi lemak, pasar malam, businessmen, who always either never declare tax or under-declaring the amount.

3. reduce unnecessary spending (for example, we should not have contributed so much funds to palestine or other countries).

4. implement back GST
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The problem is not that enough taxes collected 🤦‍♀️ but the way tax is collected and being spent

With BMX in place no matter how much taxes being collected 🤦‍♀️ the way he spent is the actual problem

GST need to be in place then followed fiscal discipline and cut spending and cut the govt size with less ministers in place
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next year Jakim budget 5bil
Donation to Palestine 3bil
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Our government and bureaucracy do not have a good record with using our tax revenue.
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maybe TS is blind. Indo below MY. doh.gif
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maybe TS is blind. Indo below MY.  doh.gif
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1. tax those earning from forex/crypto

2. tax those roadsite nasi lemak, pasar malam, businessmen, who always either never declare tax or under-declaring the amount.

3. reduce unnecessary spending (for example, we should not have contributed so much funds to palestine or other countries).

4. implement back GST
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they would never implement back GST. they refuse to admit BN is right all along.

They rather implement tax, oxygen tax, birth tax, inheritance tax, m40 tax, luxry tax, vape tax, alcohol more tax, cig more tax, roti canai tax, vege tax rather than re-introduce GST or a better taxation system.
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world bank?
We don't trust the bank supported by yahoodie.

Instead of how much tax is collected, I'd rather ask WHERE HAVE ALL THE TAXES GONE.
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QUOTE(hirano @ Nov 30 2025, 10:11 PM)
1. tax those earning from forex/crypto

2. tax those roadsite nasi lemak, pasar malam, businessmen, who always either never declare tax or under-declaring the amount.

3. reduce unnecessary spending (for example, we should not have contributed so much funds to palestine or other countries).

4. implement back GST
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Unfortunately doing this also will kena boikote

Either way also will be shit for our country
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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Nov 30 2025, 11:05 PM)
next year Jakim budget 5bil
Donation to Palestine 3bil
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Cut jakim budget instead if they want to donate to Palestine 🤦‍♀️ at least 4 bil
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Cut jakim budget instead if they want to donate to Palestine  🤦‍♀️ at least 4 bil
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why not just tax more from Non?
Easy money thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(party @ Nov 30 2025, 11:31 PM)
they would never implement back GST. they refuse to admit BN is right all along.

They rather implement tax, oxygen tax, birth tax, inheritance tax, m40 tax, luxry tax, vape tax, alcohol more tax, cig more tax, roti canai tax, vege tax rather than re-introduce GST or a better taxation system.
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after roll back, susah want to re-implement again....

I rugi so much money during the GST time
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QUOTE(Avex @ Nov 30 2025, 01:04 PM)
then why subsidized petrol
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If no subsidy, whether related or not, everything goes up in cost. Just like govt increases salary then suddenly groceries and other daily cost also rises for no reason laugh.gif

If living cost goes up significantly, economy slows down. Govt will collect less tax also. Govt get the subsidy money back from booming businesses through tax money. Lower household spending on petrol means people spend more money on something else. People more likely to spend extra money than saving it laugh.gif
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Based on the heavy fuel subsidies and healthcare subsidies, we are really under collecting taxes. So either increase the tax or reduce the subsidies.
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In oecd countries, high tax revenue returns perpetual pensions, health care, etc to the people. but tax collected in this country spent largely on gomen opex and pensions, largely for the benefit of gomen servants.

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QUOTE(Virlution @ Dec 1 2025, 10:41 AM)
after roll back, susah want to re-implement again....

I rugi so much money during the GST time
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Re-implement is much better than SST and tons of x20 new taxes no? At tis rate of progress msia will be no.1 in quantity of apps and taxes if bmx still in power.
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no problem, can tax like Norway and Denmark

i dun mind.

but everything need to be same quality la


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Re-implement is much  better than SST and tons of x20 new taxes no? At tis rate of progress  msia will be no.1 in quantity of apps and taxes if bmx still in power.
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later will become

re-implement + existing


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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Dec 1 2025, 10:35 AM)
why not just tax more from Non?
Easy money  :thumbsup:
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Not that easy 🤦‍♀️ and how much can you tax when the non populations is small less 10million now and already is at the limit now hence why BMX now losing votes

QUOTE(party @ Dec 1 2025, 11:36 AM)
Re-implement is much  better than SST and tons of x20 new taxes no? At tis rate of progress  msia will be no.1 in quantity of apps and taxes if bmx still in power.
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Malaysians don’t mind paying taxes but they angry on how the taxes are being spent unnecessary as you look at how BMX is spending now 🤦‍♀️ instead of now every year expansionary budget only
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 1 2025, 02:55 PM)
Not that easy 🤦‍♀️ and how much can you tax when the non populations is small less 10million now and already is at the limit now hence why BMX now losing votes
Malaysians don’t mind paying taxes but they angry on how the taxes are being spent unnecessary as you look at how BMX is spending now 🤦‍♀️ instead of now every year expansionary budget only
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sure they know about this especially LHDN since only they got the data by races and income level

but instead they looking for ways to tax more from non, lately they so hardworking on catching those rental income without declaring tax

tax more from non, spend less on non
still can sustain them for many years to come thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Nov 30 2025, 03:43 PM)
so many b40 here no need pay tax, how?
gov also don't want enforce strictly to collect tax from org kito

those bazaar stall owner got 7-10k sales a day
Ada bayar tax tak?

20% of tax payer contributing 80% of tax
If not second bottom in the region memang ada hantu
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Don't say so loud some people here never understand leakages...when I mention warong & road side stall.
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Don't say so loud some people here never understand leakages...when I mention warong & road side stall.
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1. remove subsidy
2. collect from ptptn so you dont keep filling the blackhole. ppl dont pay, you black list them from flight, borrowings, travel, government related work

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QUOTE(Kelefeh @ Dec 1 2025, 02:58 PM)
sure they know about this especially LHDN since only they got the data by races and income level

but instead they looking for ways to tax more from non, lately they so hardworking on catching those rental income without declaring tax

tax more from non, spend less on non
still can sustain them for many years to come  thumbup.gif
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1stly non is already paying above board taxes 🤦‍♀️ and in return getting less so do you think govt spend less on them as it is already happened

The problem now is not about collection of taxes as ir is already shown is above board but the key problem is BMX is spending his way to just to keep in power

You already can tell from the way he is speaking and defending shown that he is not capable barring Thanos warning just to stay in power no matter what that is why he is still hogging MOF for that reason

 

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