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post Nov 29 2025, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Nov 29 2025, 05:26 PM)
money speaks louder

there's something called smuggling
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who wants to smuggle China tech out of China lolz
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post Nov 29 2025, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 29 2025, 05:29 PM)
who wants to smuggle China tech out of China lolz
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in case you didn't know many mi products were initially for local CCP use only but it's available for purchase in lazada/shopee. when demand got big only mi releases global version.
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QUOTE(Rusty Nail @ Nov 29 2025, 05:32 PM)
in case you didn't know many mi products were initially for local CCP use only but it's available for purchase in lazada/shopee. when demand got big only mi releases global version.
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Coz it was cheap back then .. now mahal like hell and full with bloatwares
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post Nov 29 2025, 05:43 PM

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still using AMDK's EDA system and photoresists from Japan

if CCP can't access to both of these ..

toycar IC also can't make
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post Nov 29 2025, 05:44 PM

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Technically can, however won't be cost effective as they are layering up.
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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 29 2025, 05:29 PM)
who wants to smuggle China tech out of China lolz
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If not of 5g , android and bank issue

I think malaysia market will be flooded by ccp smartphone
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post Nov 29 2025, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 29 2025, 04:51 PM)
it is not for international market.
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Only for ccp Chinese in motherland. Strictly for Huawei & Xiaomi only. Overheat and hang in handphone after use for few minutes.
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post Nov 29 2025, 06:13 PM

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Is the card the size of a cabinet?
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post Nov 29 2025, 06:20 PM

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Both are not auspicious number. gg.

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QUOTE(vhs @ Nov 29 2025, 06:20 PM)
Both are not auspicious number. gg.
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post Nov 29 2025, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(novblaze @ Nov 29 2025, 04:50 PM)
Finally we can get cheaper and more powerful chip.

No need those overpriced 4nm 3nm shit
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for one I think competition is good. but until it is out for the market then only say la. China a lot of claim la...claim the claim that...
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post Nov 29 2025, 07:39 PM

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Until it's on the shelve n proven ... Dengar je la.
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post Nov 29 2025, 07:41 PM

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Cross finger and eat popcorn 1st.
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post Nov 29 2025, 07:45 PM

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Chips are made my human, not god. Sooner or later, probably sooner, China will catch up with West.



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post Nov 29 2025, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Nov 29 2025, 04:53 PM)
if you know semiconductor science, it is possible. it is called near memory compute. reduce latency and power through 3D stacking advanced packaging.
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So it's gonna be a huge ass package
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post Nov 29 2025, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Nov 29 2025, 07:45 PM)
Chips are made my human, not god. Sooner or later, probably sooner, China will catch up with West.
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Ccp don't have the uv machine technology.

China only finally able to make boll point pen in 2017.

Their tech still long way to go
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post Nov 29 2025, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(novblaze @ Nov 29 2025, 01:23 PM)
Ccp don't have the uv machine technology.

China only finally able to make boll point pen in 2017.

Their tech still long way to go
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West has built ICE cars for century. China EV will replace them.

Same with chips, they may come out with new things to make those machines unnecessary

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QUOTE(touristking @ Nov 29 2025, 08:28 PM)
West has built ICE cars for century. China EV will replace them.

Same with chips, they may come out with new things to make those machines unnecessary
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EV tesla elon musk that leads China. If not China ev still nothing.


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post Nov 29 2025, 08:35 PM

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Sooner or later, will hit a limit due to quantum tunneling. Need to unfold dimensions to fit more transistors laugh.gif


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post Nov 29 2025, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(novblaze @ Nov 29 2025, 01:31 PM)
EV tesla elon musk that leads China. If not China ev still nothing.
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Tesla was deliberately allowed to come into China to force China EV makers to improve.

Likewise, USA is forcing China to improve their chips.

Same thing.




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