Hongkongers don't trust anything from China even if China offered help. The HK government will look even more useless if they ask Shenzhen's help. Even with Shenzhen's help and using drones, the fire might not even be contained. A lot of Hongkongers are like AMDKs in k. If with Shenzhen's help and drones, so many people still die, what do you think all those keyboard warriors will say? Even now with no China involvement at all, there are people blaming China.
firefighting drones can fly at a height of 200 m = 60 stories or more . can surely help .
This post has been edited by issac99289928: Nov 29 2025, 11:42 AM
great tragedy as number of dead and missing already pass 300+.. thats not even accounting for elderly that lives alone with no relatives, nobody can confirm or know if they're even there
This video from 2 years ago show the place to be quite nice even though its subsidised housing. Notice the whole exterior walls are covered in small brown tiles like mosaic. Probably renovation is to replace these tiles.
This post has been edited by enviro: Nov 29 2025, 12:47 PM
This video from 2 years ago show the place to be quite nice even though its subsidised housing. Notice the whole exterior walls are covered in small brown tiles like mosaic. Probably renovation is to replace these tiles.
Very tidy and neat for a 20+ year old public housing living environmental
Correction, 40+ year old
This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 29 2025, 02:43 PM
128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash.
In HK, does the bamboo used in scaffolding flammable?
Short answer: Yes. The bamboo used in scaffolding in Hong Kong is combustible, because bamboo is a natural material containing cellulose. It can burn if exposed to sufficient heat or open flame.
However:
Why it’s still widely used in Hong Kong
Highly treated: Bamboo used for scaffolding is typically well-cured and kept dry, which reduces—but does not remove—flammability.
Regulated safety practices: Hong Kong’s Labour Department and Buildings Department require fire-safety precautions on construction sites (e.g., no hot works near bamboo scaffold unless special measures are taken).
Fire risk is managed: Workers are trained, and fire-prevention measures are mandatory.
Bottom line
Bamboo scaffolding is not fire-resistant, but with proper management it is considered safe for use. If “hot works” (welding, cutting, etc.) are performed, additional protection or alternative scaffolding (e.g., metal) is required.
If you want, I can summarise Hong Kong’s specific safety regulations on scaffolding and fire prevention.
128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash.
If this was a TV drama, then it will say it was some bigshot developer wanting to reclaim the land for development purpose so he plotted to burn down the towers so that he could reclaim the land for own use by working with gangsters and a few corrupted government officials.
It looks like Bamboo has practically become a religion in Hong Kong. HK people are spreading misinformation, denying obvious facts, and clinging to blatant bias.
1. Video clearly shown bamboo burnt into ashes & fallen = HK people suddenly become blind 2. Video audio clearly gave the cracking sound of bamboo exploding = HK people suddenly become deaf 3. Aftermath Video clearly shown bamboo was destroyed by fire in the black colored side (due to burnt) of the building with gap of space showing the bamboo no longer exist due to it being destroyed, but they choose the least affected area (bright color side) as proof that bamboo was not destroyed = HK people become retarded bias
I use to cut bamboo for campfire. Confirm it can burn.
If the green wan, take a bit time. As the fiber contain water. While the yellow dead bamboo is easy to burn. Sometime it explode as the pressure built up inside. Chop it half will be safer.
It's not because of the bamboo, it's because of the green mesh. Someone somewhere skimped out on the fire-resistant version and instead used something that looked the same but extremely flammable, that was how the fire spread upwards so quickly. There are videos demonstrating the difference in the green mesh types.
This post has been edited by ray123: Nov 29 2025, 11:38 PM
128 was official figures released yesterday, seems like they refrain from releasing new number today. The final death toll could be disastrous, the authorities probably figuring best way to avoid massive backlash.
Bolded, I refrain myself to believe that is the case but as authority moves into the buildings, sweeping door to door, I got a feeling the discovery is too traumatising and no way anyone can hide the fact.
Added. I saw a vid, many (relatives) waiting at ground zero saying unaccounted, missing ‘mati pon mau nampak mayat lo’
This post has been edited by jojolicia: Nov 30 2025, 12:44 AM
It's not because of the bamboo, it's because of the green mesh. Someone somewhere skimped out on the fire-resistant version and instead used something that looked the same but extremely flammable, that was how the fire spread upwards so quickly. There are videos demonstrating the difference in the green mesh types.
The green netting is the reason why the fire spread so fast but if it's metal and not bamboo, the fire would have finished faster. To say bamboo has no role in the fire is not right
This post has been edited by 30624770: Nov 29 2025, 11:44 PM
It's not because of the bamboo, it's because of the green mesh. Someone somewhere skimped out on the fire-resistant version and instead used something that looked the same but extremely flammable, that was how the fire spread upwards so quickly. There are videos demonstrating the difference in the green mesh types.
is due to both.
green mesh and styrofoam = easily combust, but will only last for a very short time.
bamboo, hard to combust or catch fire, but once it burn, it will burn for a very long time.
when you combine both. u got things that easily combust feeding to material that stay burning for a long time.
green mesh and styrofoam = easily combust, but will only last for a very short time.
bamboo, hard to combust or catch fire, but once it burn, it will burn for a very long time.
when you combine both. u got things that easily combust feeding to material that stay burning for a long time.
1) Main fire trigger: styrofoam seals on the windows, green netting still in question as preliminary test allegedly meet fire retardant requirement.
2) Material that sustain and spread fire: bamboos scaffolding
3) Reason for fire to engulf 7 towers: all towers wrapped in flammable materials all at once. This historical tragedy would be less severe if works were done tower by tower.
The last point is actually the main catastrophe that spread to 7 towers, point one should only engulf one tower without point 3.
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