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TSZhik
post Nov 21 2025, 05:19 PM, updated 11h ago

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Hey guy, newbie here.
Can recommend me some brand for rear suspension/absorber?
And where to get the genuine stock?
Thanks in advances.



Am using the very 1st batch of gm6 t9a honda city, ald 12 years, never change the absorber, coil spring yet.
I have installed the new mounting and bush for both side.
And noticed that the height both rear tyre-chasis become equal after some drive. LoL.



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post Nov 21 2025, 05:51 PM

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For comfort just use original honda absorber and coil spring 😆🐝
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post Nov 21 2025, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 21 2025, 05:51 PM)
For comfort just use original honda absorber and coil spring 😆🐝
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What is the different between honda and other brands?
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post Nov 21 2025, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 21 2025, 06:24 PM)
What is the different between honda and other brands?
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Usually original honda will give you the same feeling just like brand new car out of the showroom, meamwhile other brands depending on what brand, different brand will give you different feeling, it might be better then original honda or may be worst

For other brand i can think, kayaba rs absorber, coil spring either use original honda or kayaba 😏🐝
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post Nov 21 2025, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 21 2025, 06:41 PM)
Usually original honda will give you the same feeling just like brand new car out of the showroom, meamwhile other brands depending on what brand, different brand will give you different feeling, it might be better then original honda or may be worst

For other brand i can think, kayaba rs absorber, coil spring either use original honda or kayaba 😏🐝
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Kayaba rs ultra right? the official store seller is on vacation. LoL.

The mechanic i approached to recommend sachs but it is sold out on their official store.

Coil spring when shall we change it? Mine seem still good.

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 21 2025, 07:57 PM)
Kayaba rs ultra right? the official store seller is on vacation. LoL.

The mechanic i approached to recommend sachs but it is sold out on their official store.

Coil spring when shall we change it? Mine seem still good.
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If you change the absorber, better change along the coil spring together, yes kayana rs ultra.. Just wait for the seller la, worth it 😝🐝
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post Nov 22 2025, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 21 2025, 09:10 PM)
If you change the absorber, better change along the coil spring together, yes kayana rs ultra.. Just wait for the seller la, worth it 😝🐝
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That would make the ride too harsh. KYB RS Ultra absorbers with stock spring would be make it more bearable. A mix of heavy duty performance & comfort.

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post Nov 22 2025, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 21 2025, 09:10 PM)
If you change the absorber, better change along the coil spring together, yes kayana rs ultra....
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Nov 22 2025, 08:24 AM)
A mix of heavy duty performance & comfort.
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Nov 22 2025, 08:24 AM)
That would make the ride too harsh. KYB RS Ultra absorbers with stock spring would be make it more bearable. A mix of heavy duty performance & comfort.
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That's why original honda absorber with original honda coil spring would be the best for comfort, or like you mentioned kayaba absorber with original honda coil spring also will be a nice combo 😜🐝
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post Nov 22 2025, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Nov 22 2025, 10:55 AM)
That's why original honda absorber with original honda coil spring would be the best for comfort, or like you mentioned kayaba absorber with original honda coil spring also will be a nice combo 😜🐝
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Actually when will u change the coil spring?
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 22 2025, 08:37 AM)
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Avoid sport spring, sport spring need medium hard absorber, less comfort but good for handling

Previously for my camry acv30 2.0e using gab adjustable, gab coil spring, set medium hard, handling very good, but for long distance bit tiring, less comfort, end up change all to standard absorber and standard coil spring, waaahh so comfortable, long distance enjoyable.. My gab adjustable and gab coil spring sell to my cousin as he also use same type of camry, let him suffer lol 😅🐝
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 22 2025, 11:01 AM)
Actually when will u change the coil spring?
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In my case, changed it when i changed my absorber but some people said when your car handling already feel bad then replace it to a new one 😁🐝
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post Nov 23 2025, 10:22 AM

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I got problem in car break issues for axia. Already send many times to main shop to fix. They just adjust rear brek. How to solve this?. Sorry ya I post here to ask. My own account can't post

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 22 2025, 11:01 AM)
Actually when will u change the coil spring?
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only when the vehicle ride height is out of spec, or spring is visibly rusty, cracked. Otherwise, springs should last 15 years or more.
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ Nov 26 2025, 07:15 PM)
only when the vehicle ride height is out of spec, or spring is visibly rusty, cracked. Otherwise, springs should last 15 years or more.
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Besides from visible seen issue, usually is absorbers already wear also can impact height. Most my rides after change or service absorbers the height return back normal. (usually for gas filled absorbers after few years it will for sure loss it pressure & lower down due to wear & tear, normal servicing can help replenish the gas pressure and return to normal height)
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Nov 27 2025, 10:42 AM)
Besides from visible seen issue, usually is absorbers already wear also can impact height. Most my rides after change or service absorbers the height return back normal. (usually for gas filled absorbers after few years it will for sure loss it pressure & lower down due to wear & tear, normal servicing can help replenish the gas pressure and return to normal height)
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Refill the gas? Can the rubber/plastic still good to hold the pressure and leaking? Would it still durable to use?
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 27 2025, 01:29 PM)
Refill the gas? Can the rubber/plastic still good to hold the pressure and leaking?  Would it still durable to use?
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Yes, i have serviced a lot of my rides with standard absorbers. If no serious oil leak from the absorber seal it can be service back.
Some of my rides until today already more than 5 years still the same serviced absorber.
The only time not worth is the seal already leak oil and to rework (change seal) the cost might not be worth compare to buying new.

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Back then, Kayaba memang the manufacturer for Toyota and Honda absorber. There might be a small difference in handling/comfort between both (OEM sold directly by Kayaba and Original Honda/Toyota parts) since there will be some slight difference in the design characteristic even though manufactured by the same company.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Nov 27 2025, 12:29 PM)
Refill the gas? Can the rubber/plastic still good to hold the pressure and leaking?  Would it still durable to use?
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Normal OEM or OE replacement shock has no gas fill valve. Refill gas means full rebuild, tear down to replace the oil, rubber seals altogether.

There are shops offering this service, but not worth the effort/cost for most OEM shocks and aftermarket non-adjustable performance shocks like Bilstein B6, B8.
Besides, most OEM shocks are twin tubes. The gas pressure is very low, usually only 2-3 bars. Some even 1 bar same as atmospheric pressure, especially for offroad vehicle.

If you have to ask this question, probably belongs in not worth the effort/cost bucket. tongue.gif

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Good adjustable shocks are designed to serviceable with gas fill valve.
Still a good reputable shock even high pressure filled monotube shock rarely have gas pressure issue from street use for at least good 8-10years, when it is time just send for full rebuild.

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Monotube Shock is the one that have high pressure 10 bars+ or 150psi+, racing use 200-300psi is not uncommon.

At 100-150psi range, the upward force is only about 20kg, so even with monotube, in a good tuning car weight is supported by the spring, not gas pressure.
Shock job is control rate of spring oscillation, speed of compression/rebound. Maximum pitch and body roll are primarily still job of spring.
Gas pressure key job is to prevent foaming or fancy word cavitation.

** let's ignore motion ratio effect of lower control arm length for simplicity.
Unless one is running very soft OEM spring at stock car height eg:. 2k spring rate, 20kg yield 10mm.
10mm is huge for Sport sedan, sport car, tuned car but on SUV or stock B Segment it is unnoticeable for most people.

Then one should also question why pair such a soft spring with a performance shock, the natural frequency will be all out.
Even a light weight Miata runs 4k - 8k spring rate depending on the tuning.
Random example with a common setup eg:. 10k spring rate, 20kg yield only 2mm.

Compare this with compression from full length supported by spring, negligible.
Easy to talk fancy oh my gas shock support car height, practically it only affect one ant length whistling.gif More likely his/her mechanic did a shabby job, not properly release the bushing preload during installation, messing with the heigh and stiffness.

My personal experience Ohlins DFV (monoshock) is insanely stiff, able to control spring 2-3 times stiffer than OEM and yet surprisingly comfortable.
I couldn't full compress with my body weight at stiffest. Even at softest setting was very difficult to compress, couldn't do it without mounting plate.

At 10 clicks (1 stiffest, 22 softest), I could literally felt the white lines. Currently running 16 clicks, a comfort setup.

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post Yesterday, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(constant_weight @ Nov 27 2025, 06:41 PM)
Normal OEM or OE replacement shock has no gas fill valve. Refill gas means full rebuild, tear down to replace the oil, rubber seals altogether.

There are shops offering this service, but not worth the effort/cost for most OEM shocks and aftermarket non-adjustable performance shocks like Bilstein B6, B8.
Besides, most OEM shocks are twin tubes. The gas pressure is very low, usually only 2-3 bars. Some even 1 bar same as atmospheric pressure, especially for offroad vehicle.

If you have to ask this question, probably belongs in not worth the effort/cost bucket. tongue.gif

-------------------------------------------------------

Good adjustable shocks are designed to serviceable with gas fill valve.
Still a good reputable shock even high pressure filled monotube shock rarely have gas pressure issue from street use for at least good 8-10years, when it is time just send for full rebuild.

-------------------------------------------------------

Monotube Shock is the one that have high pressure 10 bars+ or 150psi+, racing use 200-300psi is not uncommon.

At 100-150psi range, the upward force is only about 20kg, so even with monotube, in a good tuning car weight is supported by the spring, not gas pressure.
Shock job is control rate of spring oscillation, speed of compression/rebound. Maximum pitch and body roll are primarily still job of spring.
Gas pressure key job is to prevent foaming or fancy word cavitation.

** let's ignore motion ratio effect of lower control arm length for simplicity.
Unless one is running very soft OEM spring at stock car height eg:. 2k spring rate, 20kg yield 10mm.
10mm is huge for Sport sedan, sport car, tuned car but on SUV or stock B Segment it is unnoticeable for most people.

Then one should also question why pair such a soft spring with a performance shock, the natural frequency will be all out.
Even a light weight Miata runs 4k - 8k spring rate depending on the tuning.
Random example with a common setup eg:. 10k spring rate, 20kg yield only 2mm.

Compare this with compression from full length supported by spring, negligible.
Easy to talk fancy oh my gas shock support car height, practically it only affect one ant length  whistling.gif More likely his/her mechanic did a shabby job, not properly release the bushing preload during installation, messing with the heigh and stiffness.

My personal experience Ohlins DFV (monoshock) is insanely stiff, able to control spring 2-3 times stiffer than OEM and yet surprisingly comfortable.
I couldn't full compress with my body weight at stiffest. Even at softest setting was very difficult to compress, couldn't do it without mounting plate.

At 10 clicks (1 stiffest, 22 softest), I could literally felt the white lines. Currently running 16 clicks, a comfort setup.
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Thanks for the sharing dude.
I wonder if u can help me with this.
My car ride is much better now after aligment and balacing. The steering felt bumpy when i drive at above 100km/h. I read that it is the road force factors.
How shall i tell the mechanic? How much does it cost? Where can i find that?
If will they check the tires and rim as well?
this problem from rim/tires can be fixed?

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