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Ramjade
post Oct 23 2025, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(KronenZerg @ Oct 22 2025, 10:14 PM)
Thanks .. Ramjade also advice to buy ETF as this would give a good returns. Understand investing in property would be good if one know what to look for except that i cannot understand the ROI, rental of rm1500 .. take how long to get back if the property is 600k ..

Ramjade .. what do you mean “ factor in the 3% loss upon putting the FD and another 3% loss when you withdraw the FD” .. sorry, newbie in getting this amount of money ..hahaha
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This is assuming you are using RM. When you place foreign FD banks will convert your RM into the foreign currency that you want. The conversion will give the bank free 3% in Forex spread.

Then when you convert the currency back you lose another 3% in Forex spread.
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post Oct 23 2025, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(KronenZerg @ Oct 22 2025, 10:14 PM)
Thanks .. Ramjade also advice to buy ETF as this would give a good returns. Understand investing in property would be good if one know what to look for except that i cannot understand the ROI, rental of rm1500 .. take how long to get back if the property is 600k ..

Ramjade .. what do you mean “ factor in the 3% loss upon putting the FD and another 3% loss when you withdraw the FD” .. sorry, newbie in getting this amount of money ..hahaha
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the simplest calculation of gross roi
rental income, 1500 x 12 = 18000/60000 x 100 = 3%
any capital gain in future when you sell it, its bonus
but the 3% very gross, still got other expenses such as quit rent, assessment, maintenance n also insurance, interest aside lagi
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post Oct 23 2025, 01:55 PM

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Ts, one advice to add. Never ever trust mainstream media both local/international when they give lots of coverage to some entrepreneur, guru, etc.

At best, the media just interview give coverage mainly to get views & never do any proper research whether the so called guru is actually profitable or their business is legit.

At worst, the interviews are nothing more than paid adverts . Like other ktards said. Real entrepreneur will not be teaching others how to get rich quick unless u the customer are their source of.income.

Google Sam bankman, tai Lopez, thanatos, etc & u realize that before they were exposed. There were actually a lot of big red flags,.it's just that they use their money/connections to silenced any naysayers & mainstream media are also complicit.

If u want to invest into whether is currently the hottest company as touted by the media. Do.your own research first & never listen to the so called financial experts on mainstream media who recommend it.

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post Oct 23 2025, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 18 2025, 10:40 AM)

4. Open Sunway Money https://sunwaymoney.com/
5.Once you have CIMB SG and Sunway Money opened, then  only you opened Interactive Broker (IBKR)
https://www.interactivebrokers.com/
6. To fund your IBKR use Sunway money to transfer RM to SGD and deposit it into your CIMB SG account. Do not use any Malaysian bank to transfer your RM.
7. Then use the CIMB SG to send SGD into IBKR using Fast transfer (SG version of Duitnow). It's instant. You will be given a virtual bank account number that is unique to you via IBKR.
8. Convert the SGD into GBP or USD

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Hi.
I'm just looking at starting an account with IBKR.

Can kindly elaborate why
6. Do not use any Malaysian bank to transfer your RM. ?


Thank you
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post Oct 23 2025, 04:28 PM

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nice to bring back the thread again..
moral of the story is buy ETF...
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post Oct 23 2025, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Tsting @ Oct 23 2025, 04:13 PM)
Hi.
I'm just looking at starting an account with IBKR.

Can kindly elaborate why
6. Do not use any Malaysian bank to transfer your RM. ?
Thank you
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Because you only lose around 0.5% if you go the long route while you lose min 3% to banks if you use their service.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 23 2025, 10:20 PM)
Because you only lose around 0.5% if you go the long route while you lose min 3% to banks if you use their service.
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Won't the spread from MYR - SGD - USD be more or less the same with just the MYR - USD conversion?
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QUOTE(UserU @ Oct 24 2025, 10:40 AM)
Won't the spread from MYR - SGD - USD be more or less the same with just the MYR - USD conversion?
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Nope. Because the loss will only be at RM to SGD. After the money is in SGD in SG, you use local transfer SGD into IBKR. Think of it if you use Duitkow, any losses? No right. Same now. IBKR offer you real time market rates to convert your money for only USD2. Hence no markup, no additional fees apart from USD2.

If you want to save more money, you can manually select the exchange rate you want inside IBKR to change money and wait for it hit Vs using market rates. So far I have always use this approach of set and wait to get more foreign currency Vs convert once I have SGD inside my IBKR.

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post Oct 24 2025, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Oct 23 2025, 11:27 AM)
the simplest calculation of gross roi
rental income, 1500 x 12 = 18000/60000 x 100 = 3%
any capital gain in future when you sell it, its bonus
but the 3% very gross, still got other expenses such as quit rent, assessment, maintenance n also insurance, interest aside lagi
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Also your time, effort and commitment in finding tenants, chasing rent, dealing with tenant issues, dealing with wear and tear issues, and so on so forth.

ETF, I do a RSP or I buy in as when, then I can forget about it all for a low low fee of 0.03%.
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TS, wasnt your Dato Vince now become public listed company of SYSTECH CEO jor ?

he also change line jor ? lol
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QUOTE(Yaowarat @ Oct 14 2025, 03:07 PM)
if dont have any skill or knowledge on stock , just buy VOO , DCA it when you got money. Buy and forget.
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Yes agree

As many say
Prop is more than just sit there collect $

Read up on buffett

& Avoid all those funny characters called lato dato datu latu
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post Oct 24 2025, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(bombacat @ Oct 24 2025, 11:51 AM)
Also your time, effort and commitment in finding tenants, chasing rent, dealing with tenant issues, dealing with wear and tear issues, and so on so forth.

ETF, I do a RSP or I buy in as when, then I can forget about it all for a low low fee of 0.03%.
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yea, but touch wood for me, since I dont do residential, so far mentioned issue did not happen to me "yet"

I think regardless what investment , just do what you're comfortable with
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 24 2025, 11:26 AM)
Nope. Because the loss will only be at RM to SGD. After the money is in SGD in SG, you use local transfer SGD into IBKR. Think of it if you use Duitkow, any losses? No right. Same now. IBKR offer you real time market rates to convert your money for only USD2. Hence no markup, no additional fees apart from USD2.

If you want to save more money, you can manually select the exchange rate you want inside IBKR to change money and wait for it hit Vs using market rates. So far I have always use this approach of set and wait to get more foreign currency Vs convert once I have SGD inside my IBKR.
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Interesting, thanks for the insight.

Will have a look at this.

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