I estimate one urvan van can take up to 10 kids max.

I think for B40, must at least earn 4k max. So maybe they charge RM 500 per student for a month?

So revenue = 5,000
less van loan instalment = 1000
less fuel cost = 1500
Profit = 2500

Damn how to survive? one month only earn 2500 in 2025 ?

Also how does van school driver find their passengers? do they like register with the school then ask school to find students want to use their service?

I saw some school vans put up cell phone number advertise on their van.

i doubt they charge RM500 too expensive per month..
and do remember they fetch 2 rounds minimum for morning and noon class..
they can also cater for other schools for more rounds with different timing planned.. so they are not poor..

as for customer finding - they have their ways la.. word of mouth pass-on, advertising, daycares, etc

This post has been edited by pysh: Oct 13 2025, 09:40 AM

Maybe the van is not a new van. Then installment will not be that high. Usually second hand van is half the price.

They have to charge high, otherwise they can't pass the minimum wage, then no longer feasible to operate a van.

Let say 7am they fetch kids to school, then 12noon they pick up kids from school. They need at least 2 hours to drop off 10 kids.

how are they going to make it to pick up kids for afternoon school ? they will miss the boat.

I am not sure if a van can take more than 10 kids. For eg, put 3, 3, 3, 4 = 13 students. But so far I saw arrangements 2, 2, 2, 3 = 9 students. But can pack 1 or 2 more in front sit with driver.

no.1, minimum wage is only for employer to employ workers..
no.2, minimum wage is RM1.7k not RM4k.. where u get your facts from la?
no.3, you're not a parent i guess.. bus/van goes as early as 6am to start fetching and dropping so that they can cover more areas/students.. even if school ends at 1pm for example, you're not guaranteed that your kids will be fetched at 1pm.. some will be delayed like half an hour as an example.. so as long they plan it right, they can make it.. noon class starts at 1pm doesnt mean they drop u at 1pm, they can drop your kids at 12pm..
some van definitely can pick up more than 10, depends what vehicle you have..

Two rounds, morning session and evening session

I so far drop off my kids to school and babysitter.

Look at my workings, 2.5k is slightly above 1.7k min wage

My expectations to be profitable to be van driver, must at least net earn 4k minimum from business.

So at most a van can take how many passengers?

Since you do drop your kids to school van, how much is average they charge per kid? RM 400 or 500 ?

Let say if RM 400 per kid, 12 kids per round X 2 (morning & afternoon session), so revenue 9600.

Ok I probably may can reset the calculations:-

fuel cost just anggar maybe 3000
loan 1500
repairs 500
Net = 4600.

The van is a fixed cost, transporting the kids is only a small fraction of a day. The way to make it work is to use the van outside the kid fetching hours by doing other delivery/passenger work.

RM400-500 would be ridiculous for transportation fees anyway. Top up a bit more, and you can get daycare + homework tutoring for the kids already.

We pay an additional RM50 for transportation to the daycare for my son. Saves us the trouble of fighting with the traffic at school.

so really how much is school van bus driver per month per kid ?

Yours is different, is provided by the tution center or kindergarten van ? those of course partially covered costs.

Wah, you driving M1 Abrams tank meh? Fuel cost where got reach 3000? I drive 2.5L turbo diesel to fetch 11 kids a month plus toll only scratching 1000.
All those aunty and unker can afford to charge low price like rm200-400 a month usually have very old vehicles. Either already paid off or under 30-40k value.
Also, distance from students home to the school can make or break your earning. Too far is bad, too close is also bad.

This post has been edited by jerm57: Oct 13 2025, 11:42 AM

My kids van is 400 per month. I think fit around 10 per round. Also bear in mind they fetch not just this 10, in between schedules got other batches. And this taukehsoh has 3 other vans

So how much you usually charge per kid per month?

wah how they can do per round?

let say school starts at 745am.

So they do 2 rounds?

maybe they set pick up 6am
then next round 645 am ?

Yes correct. My son, the van comes at 550.

Also the go home time, many schools all got different finish timing. Eg private school vs kebangsaan.

And we got to know this service because the auntie was handing out pamphlets on school registration / orientation day.

Last time bus auntie jual snacks inside bas/van.

When waiting jual, when jalan jual.

650-700 per student. Premium area.

A friend of mine, his dad doing this business, owned 3 vans and 2 mini buses, all of them bought good condition used, plus at the same time they doing food catering for wedding and big company around selangor and kl

my kid school and daycare is just like 1km away.. so i only pay RM35 one way for a month.. and this is not combine to the daycare charges, its paid separately..
so i dont think its RM500 ridiculously so expensive unless the school is like 10-20km away..

lol. this TS obviously wanna start this bisnes but fishing for info. my take is pls go do part time to some ppl first. learn the rope. u ask here all aso half past six then u wanna jump in meh. do bisnes where got so easy win all one. i own several bisnes, some make money alot some just salary. so is all depend how to navigate the bisnes. some bisnes already die pattern - no matter how creative also make extra abit only. some can really reach sky. depend u lo

This post has been edited by Femsroot: Oct 13 2025, 02:10 PM

wow.

But how did you get your contacts? the school admin helped you?

you register with them, and parents ask about school bus, then refer to you?

So how many batch of students you pick up? Every round 10

so if morning-noon batch you go 2 rounds 650 X 10 X 2 = 13000

then noon-evening batch you go 2 rounds 650 X 10 X 2 = 13000

26,000 a month? wow good money

got people here saying about 500-650

anyways, i recalled last time I had discussion with some bankers relationship managers, they were telling me how much they were paying for their kids school bus

Nowadays buses work in group and most students have minimum insured

Why note you just try to call one of the school van and pretend you are customer then ask the pricing. Call around a few and give different distance to school (just to gauge what is the price package, if got charge according to distance or other factors)

I plan to do that.

There is one van that stop by my condo

i just need to take a day off to ask.

take 2 batches every time :X

10 only? I think can sumbat 20

aunty charge around RM300 for 15KM route.

This post has been edited by anakkk: Oct 13 2025, 03:07 PM

Do business where can expect to straight away untung kaw kaw one?

how to sumbat 20

of course start that time

you may have 20% to half capacity

those are probably long distance or T20 ones.. like private school etc

10KM distance around 400 monthly
first person/group 5.30 AM, skoll starts at 8
i tink each session morning got 2 group
if bus probly cheaper abit but probly earlier.

every morning I drive to office I saw the school van very crowded, those Hiace, Urvan can fit 4 bench, front seat beside driver can sit 2, those on the bench can squeeze 4-5 per row :X cos primary students are small in size, some standing in the van, like no body business

4 per bench can fit meh

i better take leave in morning to see

School van driver at 60, No
School van operator at 60, Yes

I believe you only have two choices since you despise 60:

1) Die before 60yo because you hate this age so much that you don't want to become 60

2) Live to 60yo, but cry fa ma every day see wrinkles on your face and start rotting

I do know a lot of healthy 60yo with no high blood pressure

whereas there are some 37yo who have diabetics and high blood pressure

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 13 2025, 06:16 PM

apart from having 2 batches of students per session, some drivers also do goods delivery in mid morning and mid afternoon for extra income.

Don’t get me wrong, I never despise nor hate 60yo I am nearing 60 in one palm count.

For your case, 10y from now I believe you can plan towards mentoring pathway for what you do now (your expertise/ specialisation)

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Oct 13 2025, 06:28 PM

TS wanna start become transporter ker ?

Yah, register with the school and sometimes get referral from parents.
Just 1 batch of students and it's 650 per student per month. Covers both ways.
Like I said, it has to be far enough away to get a good price so I don't really have enough time to do another run.
Planning to be a transporter? Better think about your target demographic because it will determine what vehicle is suitable.
You'll also need to research the transporters in your target area. No point going in if many old transporters there.
Wanna make good money I recommend start asking around international schools.

Ok come I share U. My gf work for a tuition centre and she engaged with school van drivers. Surprisingly if U don't know, the charge I heard for a trip to school and a trip back to the centre is only RM180/month. BUT there is still parents are complaining RM180 is high.

Anyways, these driver got high volume. 1 day I think more than 7-8 trips and I know earning is 5 figures (not all drivers earn that much. But I know the top 1-2 drivers actually have that. But need to drive morning till evening lo)

Were you able to make 2 deliveries in one morning?

Let say one load = 10 students
2 load = 20 students = 13,000

Also how do you get yourself registered with an international school? You go to their admin office and ask? then would the school refer for you?

the thing I am afraid is, some markets are saturated, then if one buys a van, suddenly only able to get 5 students (less full capacity). Rugi wor.

Next thing, is obtain an urvan, which model is best? Go and buy one? buy second hand? How much does a 10 seater van costs? brand new = 140,000 ?

180 ???

mind as well not do. You have your own fuel, repair and loan to pay for your van.

morning how to do 2 rounds? I mean, maybe 1st pick up, 615am to 645 am, then do second pick up, 7am to 745am ? macam ini?

very rush wor...need to plan where everyone stays...if reach school late, sure parents complain.

if 180/student, you need at least 40 students to pick up. I estimate 7k is the break even. So need to do 2 pick ups and drop offs for morning school and another 2 pick ups and drop offs for afternoon school.

180 is just too low. I think RM300/student is a fairer price.

They collaborate with tuition centre one. Coz tuition center didn't take any profit. They just free refer. And my gf tuition centre exceeding 500 students.

i think tution center don't pay so well unlike school.

maybe some of these van drivers, do these deliveries in between their schooling schedule.

Damn can't imagine, my butt also pain.

But i notice they use official van logo, like the Mirc van I notice driving near my neighborhood

Ok maybe got some miscommunication here.

The delivery route is not from
House > school
School > house
If according to above route. Then it would be hard because all students have different location.

The route is from
Tuition center > school
School > tuition center

They work like above only

must be chinese school lah

I notice schools like Lick Hung in Subang, no need van, as just next door to school, the kids walk to the shop houses to go for tution.

because chinese schools a lot of homework, so they require these tution centers to teach them.

I no surprise it is half price.

tution centers probably have to cut price as parents complain they have to pay tution fees + transport.

am i right to say?

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 14 2025, 09:21 AM

Yes, my gf centre mostly Chinese independent school students

secondary students sure drop rate lah

because by now, they know how to take public transport.

ur gf teach what subject?

math?

why don't go do self tution ?

can earn more money

This post has been edited by hoonanoo: Oct 14 2025, 09:28 AM

i know those vgro education tuition center, they have own van, it is RM4 per trip, one person also the driver will send

this one already absorbed by the tution center lah.

the driver work for them, not self employed

RM 4 how to survive lah.

You charge RM4 for KTM also bungkus liao lah

Wow..deja vu indeed. I never thought about the timing until this very morning when a van stopped at the housing roadside and picked up a school kid , when I was driving home after dropping off my kids.

Then I wondered which poor students must wait earlier than other students becoz thats the timing the van is taking to optimize the route. sure some kids must wait at 6am while others can sleep 40min longer and wait at 6.40am for van to arrive.

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Oct 14 2025, 09:52 AM

Van so expensive?

Some chinese schools start early like Kuen Cheng

school bus have to come as early as 5am something due to the traffic jam.

10 seater van.

I don't think its cheap

Depends on the age and condition for used van, usually for school they bought used van only

This post has been edited by GamersFamilia: Oct 14 2025, 10:57 AM

Nah.. i have a family to jaga so I only do one round to school in the morning and back to homes in the afternoon. About 5 hours work daily.
Most schools have a registry for transporters or join local/school communities on FB/Whatsapp.
As for not getting enough students, that's the risk of business.
How much you willing to fork out for the vehicle also depends on you.
I can say, Urvan is not a good idea. First of all, it is a phased out model no longer sold by Nissan Malaysia.
Secondly, it only comes in manual with 3.5L engine. It's going to be a shitty driving experience with an expensive roadtax.
For noobie who wanna try transport service, I recommend a 7 seater just so you can dip your toes without heavy commitment.
Alza is a very good starter vehicle. Just pick the spec with leather seats.

7 seater can earn meh?

each month 4,550 judging from 650/month. But not bad idea if you have 2 businesses.

For eg, morning I do student delivery then afternoon to night, I do freelance tution business.

so you mean to say you don't always get full capacity? By the way are you using a 10 seater or Alza ?

welcome to the real world bro... why people hire you to fetch their kids? to let you stress about the jam and beat the traffic behalf of parent. if you can't take stress because of rushing, better not. else you have accident lagi worst. no one said being a school van driver is easy.

NOthing is ever easy.

but for those who are out of work, this is a good option

better than real estate agent.

sure you have to wake up early and drive kids to school.

but if you work hard and do this for morning and after school shifts 2x a day, you may be able to earn up to 10k.

40 students, if you charge 250 each. But that's in a perfect world. In an imperfect world, you may not get this many passengers. Sometimes perhaps van also cannot reach full capacity.

Never overestimate the income. At 500 per student per month, 5 students should be able to let you cover your expenses and have some left over.

750 - Alza loan per month
300 - Petrol, average rm75 per week
200 - Toll if necessary
300 - Keep for maintenance, roadtax and misc.
Total expense about 1.5k

You'll have to be prepared to have none or little income for at least 2-3 months. Don't do this if you have no savings.

you doing this part time or full time?

500/student X 5 students = 2500 - 1500 = 1000 net

how to survive?

I think minimally 10 students.

I heard Grab riders can get RM3k-4k if rajin.

u forgot about tuition class la

now there are van transport services for tuition classes too

seems the rate for tution class not so good vs school

Sometimes when school holidays, they transport university or college student, factory workers even tourist

This post has been edited by GamersFamilia: Oct 14 2025, 06:18 PM

dun want lah

i want to rest

maybe go vacation with family

No worries, let others make extra money while you and family go for a nice holiday 🙄💸😅

Just clarified with my gf. This transporter charges RM180 for single trip. From school to tuition centre monthly. Some students charges about 260-300 monthly for 2 days trip. Then, 1 day got 6-7 trips. 1 trip can fix like 15 students max.

My gf cincai count, that transporter got like over 20k alone in the fee(haven't deduct petrol fees)

What they need is volume

During school holiday, can be used for kids school trip.

Or transit daycare/preschool personal driver woso. My daughter morning send to transit. Her school in the afternoon. This van driver pick them up from transit center send to school.

6pm i pick her up myself. That woso rm160-180 woredi. If some parents wants direct van driver pick them up semd back home another rm160-180 woso…

This post has been edited by max_cavalera: Oct 15 2025, 09:19 AM

The transporter/driver also need to be responsible for the kids safety. Remember a case, whereby the driver left a child in the vehicle. The child died. Quite big responsibility. Make sure also got dash cam etc etc for road and personal safety ya.

I'm just telling you the bare minimum to survive lah. No one ask you to fetch just 5. Is up to your vehicle capacity.
If your first response is to nitpick pointless things like this, then I don't see much chance for you.
There is no such thing as a safe or guaranteed business and running a successful service requires good PR with your clients.
Best of luck if you wanna try it out.

actually i thinking do this job after retirement. But do for fun only maybe 5 kids go n bak from school.

speaking from my personal experience picking own kids. if picking up 15 students per trip the responsibilities and pressure is insane. Have to jam 15minutes to reach, and 15minutes to go back. Then sometimes kids blurblur no turn up for dunno what reason, and sometimes got kids MC/EL or LATE. If u accidentally missing one kid u probably end up in balai or worst case kena belasah by the parent.

The transporter u mentioned confirm is Top10 in Malaysia already if he can earn 20k. Not easy to reach that level. Your gf which area if u dont mind telling?

so if parents complain, you tell them its due to this one or two kids who are late lor

U need to know the route. This transport rich because of the students that the tuition centre provide.

The route it's only from centre > school > centre > school and repeat.

No need to go different house and fetch student one by one from different locations.

Simple they just illegal squeeze kids over the cap and drive multiple rounds.
If not mistaken, yellow van is 15 ppl max.

My house to high school was ~7km distance, calculate about RM 200/month

The school van ferry 6 schools in my area with 3 vans drivers are a family couple + a son.

Some of these primary and secondary schools operates two sessions.
Not mistaken atleast have 100.


Oh ya meet back my Van Driver auntie yesterday, still driving that old van that pick me up since 2007...

if above 7km, the charge can go higher ?

does van driver charge like that?

so if driver makes 2 morning session rounds, can earn up to 6k
then 2 afternoon session, can earn another 6k

I am not sure if van can pick up 2 times in morning, maybe 630am reach school and another round 715am ?

provided full capacity

there's got to be a way to manage this

else transporters would be bankrupt

just so as long don't do stupid thing like leave the kid in van to die under hot sun

> if above 7km, the charge can go higher ?
> does van driver charge like that?

Yes, but that RM 200 pricing was in 2014 the last time I rode.

>so if driver makes 2 morning session rounds, can earn up to 6k
>then 2 afternoon session, can earn another 6k
> I am not sure if van can pick up 2 times in morning, maybe 630am reach school and another round 715am ?
provided full capacity

Last time purposely need to wake up 5.30am in the morning, just to sit van to school, which arrive around 6am, then reach school 6.30am.

School starts at 7.30am. Can atleast fetch 2 rounds.
But then got 3 van drivers.

Your mileage may vary.

3 van drivers? you mean the same one does not pick up twice?

aiya macam ni he lost income

if let say he only cater to morning school rugi liao....15 X 200 = 3000. Where got enough? Mind as well work as full time van driver...I see in jobstreet, they pay 4k

Morning session & afternoon session, weekend drive to Thailand for holiday goers

Morning, noon and evening, can do 4 trips per day during weekdays

if the school is large enough can la

2 trips for morning
2trips for afternoon

but if small chinese school how can

Makes sense, yea it depends on the school itself, at my place so many large school, ive seen many school van fetching and sending the students

also depends on where you stay

if you are nons, usually M prefer M drivers?

dunno lah...

I could be wrong..

For me, those multinational SK would do well for a non driver.

dun get me wrong, I dun mind picking up others, but question is do they prefer another?

At my place most of the school multinational and mixed race SK, from what ive seen there's indian school van even chinese school van picking up the students, a few malay school van do the same too..

Most parents didn't mind bout the race of the driver as long as the service good, already fine to them

Only some still prefer particular race to send and pick up their children, that's a small percentage only

Me im a malay myself, but both of my kids been send and pick up by this chinese uncle, his a great guy and love kids so much

Plus during school holidays, they ferry passengers to outstation trips & holidays. Some use their bus to ferry mourning customers during funeral ceremony

Exactly yes, all depends on the driver and company itself

Some bas sekolah tauke even has bas persiaran. Big biznes man yo this people

that is good news.

dunno how much bus cost.

damn expensive

New malaysia, we all together, no more racism issue, if so just a small percentage which doesn't contribute to anything, as long as we do things right, just go ahead