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GalaxyV
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Oct 9 2025, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(theozis @ Oct 9 2025, 10:20 PM) above is possible. the most ngam is how can all the 7 players who claimed their grandparents / parents were born in malaysia, lost all the birth certificates in the same period ? why dont check back hospital record or immigration to know if they really came to malaysia that period?
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SUSlurkingaround
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Oct 9 2025, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE((hcmalaya @ Sep 26 2025, 11:08 PM) CHF350k fine 7 players fined CHF2k and ban 12 months FIFA claim all 7 grandparents original birthcerts acquired shown foreign birthplace Kekwa » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has imposed sanctions on the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM) and seven players – Gabriel Felipe Arrocha, Facundo Tomás Garcés, Rodrigo Julián Holgado, Imanol Javier Machuca, João Vitor Brandão Figueiredo, Jon Irazábal Iraurgui and Hector Alejandro Hevel Serrano – for breaches of article 22 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code (FDC) concerning forgery and falsification.
The FAM had submitted eligibility enquiries to FIFA, and in doing so, it used doctored documentation to be able to field the above players.
All seven players played for Malaysia against Vietnam in the third round of qualifiers for the AFC Asian Cup Saudi Arabia 2027 on 10 June 2025, after which FIFA received a complaint regarding the eligibility of Facundo Tomás Garcés, Rodrigo Julián Holgado, João Vitor Brandão Figueiredo, Jon Irazábal Iraurgui and Hector Alejandro Hevel Serrano.
Following regular proceedings, the FIFA Disciplinary Committee evaluated all evidence on file and has imposed the following sanctions: The Football Association of Malaysia has been ordered to pay a fine of CHF 350,000 to FIFA.
The players Gabriel Felipe Arrocha, Facundo Tomás Garcés, Rodrigo Julián Holgado, Imanol Javier Machuca, João Vitor Brandão Figueiredo, Jon Irazábal Iraurgui and Hector Alejandro Hevel Serrano have each been ordered to pay a fine of CHF 2,000 to FIFA.
The aforementioned players have been further sanctioned with a 12-month suspension from all football-related activities, effective from the date of notification of the decision.
Further, the matter of the players’ eligibility to play for the representative team of Malaysia has been referred by the FIFA Disciplinary Committee to the FIFA Football Tribunal for consideration.
FAM and its players have been notified of the terms of the FIFA Disciplinary Committee’s decision today. In accordance with the relevant provisions of the FDC, they have ten days in which to request a motivated decision, which, if requested, would subsequently be published on legal.fifa.com. The decision remains subject to a potential appeal before the FIFA Appeal Committee.
Checkmate https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/7fd28b5f50dea...ia_06102025.pdf QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 9 2025, 10:11 PM) If the Spain officials don’t come to Swiss to testify, there will be 2 copies of the birth certs. Which one is the real one? . The Malaysian copies obtained by FAM were issued by JPN in early 2025 based on "hearsay" (eg by the footballers and fam) whereas the Spanish copies obtained by FIFA are based on the original birth certificates of the grandparents issued by the Spanish govt many decades ago. Which copy do you think will be accepted as admissible evidence in the upcoming tribunal or court of arbitration.? .
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theozis
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Oct 9 2025, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 9 2025, 10:23 PM) why dont check back hospital record or immigration to know if they really came to malaysia that period? if refer to FIFA , then they no need to check bcoz here wont allow them to check , furthermore they already obtained the more solid evidence. if refer to bolehland, what is the points to check while know that there is no such records ?
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GalaxyV
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Oct 9 2025, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(theozis @ Oct 9 2025, 10:27 PM) if refer to FIFA , then they no need to check bcoz here wont allow them to check , furthermore they already obtained the more solid evidence. if refer to bolehland, what is the points to check while know that there is no such records ? i believe them more thn bole
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Schumacher
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Oct 9 2025, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 9 2025, 10:25 PM) . The Malaysian copies obtained by FAM were issued by JPN in early 2025 based on "hearsay" (eg by the footballers and fam) whereas the Spanish copies obtained by FIFA are based on the original birth certificates of the grandparents issued by the Spanish govt many decades ago. Which copy do you think will be accepted as admissible evidence in the upcoming tribunal or court of arbitration.? . See FIFA got either a photocopy or the authentic copy from Spain. Usually forensic methods can be used to verify its authenticity. If FIFA only has an emailed copy, it’s less credible. Has the recent judgment mentioned that FIFA received the authentic birth cert issued by Spain officials?
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TShcmalaya
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Oct 9 2025, 10:31 PM
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🇮🇩2-3🇸🇦 🇲🇾3-0🇱🇦
Malaysia gained 6 ranking points to 1154 to overtake Indonesia at WR120 spot temporary as Indo fell to WR121 Kekwa
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SUSlurkingaround
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Oct 9 2025, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(theozis @ Oct 9 2025, 10:20 PM) above is possible. the most ngam is how can all the 7 players who claimed their grandparents / parents were born in malaysia, lost all the birth certificates in the same period ? QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 9 2025, 10:23 PM) why dont check back hospital record or immigration to know if they really came to malaysia that period? . Fyi, ....... https://www.bharian.com.my/sukan/bola/2025/...-permohonan-fam - FIFA dedahkan kronologi permohonan FAM - 7 Oct 2025 .... 19 Mac 2025: FAM mengemukakan pertanyaan mengenai kelayakan Hector Hevel untuk mewakili Malaysia dan melampirkan sijil kelahiran datuk pemain itu bertarikh 6 Januari 2025 yang menunjukkan bahawa Hendrik Jan Hevel dilahirkan pada 3 Februari 1933 di Selat Melaka, Malaysia. Kes ini difailkan di bawah rujukan FPSD-18682.
20 Mac 2025: FAM mengemukakan satu lagi pertanyaan mengenai kelayakan Gabriel Felipe Arocha untuk mewakili Malaysia bersama sijil kelahiran nenek pemain bertarikh 3 Januari 2025 yang menunjukkan bahawa María Belen Concepción Martin dilahirkan pada 17 Mei 1956 di Melaka, Malaysia. Kes ini difailkan di bawah rujukan FPSD-18683.
24 Mac 2025: FIFA menghantar surat kepada FAM berkenaan kes FPSD-18682 dan menyatakan bahawa berdasarkan maklumat yang diberikan dan Hevel memenuhi semua keperluan berkaitan dan layak bermain untuk pasukan kebangsaan Malaysia. ... How to check the British Malaya birth records in 1933.? .
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GalaxyV
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Oct 9 2025, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 9 2025, 10:36 PM) . Fyi, ....... https://www.bharian.com.my/sukan/bola/2025/...-permohonan-fam - FIFA dedahkan kronologi permohonan FAM - 7 Oct 2025 .... 19 Mac 2025: FAM mengemukakan pertanyaan mengenai kelayakan Hector Hevel untuk mewakili Malaysia dan melampirkan sijil kelahiran datuk pemain itu bertarikh 6 Januari 2025 yang menunjukkan bahawa Hendrik Jan Hevel dilahirkan pada 3 Februari 1933 di Selat Melaka, Malaysia. Kes ini difailkan di bawah rujukan FPSD-18682.
20 Mac 2025: FAM mengemukakan satu lagi pertanyaan mengenai kelayakan Gabriel Felipe Arocha untuk mewakili Malaysia bersama sijil kelahiran nenek pemain bertarikh 3 Januari 2025 yang menunjukkan bahawa María Belen Concepción Martin dilahirkan pada 17 Mei 1956 di Melaka, Malaysia. Kes ini difailkan di bawah rujukan FPSD-18683.
24 Mac 2025: FIFA menghantar surat kepada FAM berkenaan kes FPSD-18682 dan menyatakan bahawa berdasarkan maklumat yang diberikan dan Hevel memenuhi semua keperluan berkaitan dan layak bermain untuk pasukan kebangsaan Malaysia. ... How to check the British Malaya birth records in 1933.? . if cant check, why JPN issued the birth certificate?
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jaapers
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Oct 9 2025, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 9 2025, 10:23 PM) why dont check back hospital record or immigration to know if they really came to malaysia that period? I'm sure all of those records were also 'lost'
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Hollow21
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Oct 9 2025, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Oct 9 2025, 10:31 PM) 🇮🇩2-3🇸🇦 🇲🇾3-0🇱🇦 Malaysia gained 6 ranking points to 1154 to overtake Indonesia at WR120 spot temporary as Indo fell to WR121 Kekwa The one lipoted harimaukekwa to fifa won too?
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SUSlurkingaround
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Oct 9 2025, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 9 2025, 10:29 PM) See FIFA got either a photocopy or the authentic copy from Spain. Usually forensic methods can be used to verify its authenticity. If FIFA only has an emailed copy, it’s less credible. Has the recent judgment mentioned that FIFA received the authentic birth cert issued by Spain officials? . https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/7fd28b5f50dea...ia_06102025.pdf . Are you alleging that FIFA forged the copies of the original birth certificates of the grandparents from Spain, Brazil, Argentina and Holland.? Aren't you the typical false accuser, very much like 'Accord2018' who had falsely accused me of being a spy for 'puchongite'.? . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Oct 9 2025, 10:51 PM
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SUSlurkingaround
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Oct 9 2025, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 9 2025, 10:38 PM) if cant check, why JPN issued the birth certificate? . Fyi, ....... https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-says-saifuddin - Birth certs for footballers’ grandparents lawfully issued, says Saifuddin 9 HOURS AGO FMT Reporters
Home minister says JPN issued the birth certificates under Section 10A of the Births and Deaths Registration Act following interviews and document verification. = issued by JPN not based on the original birth certificates of the grandparents or hospital records or baby vaccination records or primary school records, etc. . This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Oct 9 2025, 10:53 PM
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Schumacher
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Oct 9 2025, 10:50 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 9 2025, 10:43 PM) . https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/7fd28b5f50dea...ia_06102025.pdf . Are you alleging that FIFA forged the copies of the original birth certificates of the grandparents from Spain, Brazil, Argentina and Holland.? Aren't you the typical false accuser.? . Najib asking the dentist ah, for a CAS proceeding, documents must be credible meaning they need to be sealed and fully certified by the official with stamp and signature from Spain authorities. Does the judgment mention whether FIFA has that? Aren't you the typical cyber bullies? This post has been edited by Schumacher: Oct 9 2025, 10:54 PM
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SUSlurkingaround
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Oct 9 2025, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 9 2025, 10:50 PM) Najib asking the dentist ah, for a CAS proceeding, documents must be credible meaning they need to be sealed and fully certified by the official with stamp and signature from Spain authorities. Does the judgment mention whether FIFA has that? Aren't you the typical cyber bullies? . Please provide proof that for a CAS proceeding, documents must be credible meaning they need to be sealed and fully certified by the official with stamp and signature from Spain authorities. .
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Schumacher
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Oct 9 2025, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 9 2025, 10:55 PM) . Please provide proof that for a CAS proceeding, documents must be credible meaning they need to be sealed and fully certified by the official with stamp and signature from Spain authorities. . Do you mean a photocopy or email copy would be enough to counter the JPN certificate if it’s supported by testimonies from the player’s family? Without testimony from the Spain side, FIFA’s document would be open to challenge. This post has been edited by Schumacher: Oct 9 2025, 11:00 PM
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countingcrows
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Oct 9 2025, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Oct 9 2025, 10:36 PM) sijil kelahiran datuk pemain itu bertarikh 6 Januari 2025
sijil kelahiran nenek pemain bertarikh 3 Januari 2025 Hmm. Still under Tan Sri Hamidin, just before he step down as FAM Prez.
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TShcmalaya
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Oct 9 2025, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Oct 9 2025, 10:42 PM) The one lipoted harimaukekwa to fifa won too? Nguyen beat Gurkha 3-1 takpe Kantor AFC di Harimau Ayam akan nego AFC tolak 6 mata saja tanpa reverse results Bagi chance Harimau beat Nguyen at Hanoi to qualify Kekwa
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s@ni
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Oct 9 2025, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(countingcrows @ Oct 9 2025, 11:00 PM) Hmm. Still under Tan Sri Hamidin, just before he step down as FAM Prez. Maybe he knew something?
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SUSlurkingaround
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Oct 9 2025, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(Schumacher @ Oct 9 2025, 11:00 PM) Do you mean a photocopy or email copy would be enough to counter the JPN certificate if it’s supported by testimonies from the player’s family? Without testimony from the Spain side, FIFA’s document would be open to challenge. . So, you have no proof but just hearsay. .
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TShcmalaya
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Oct 9 2025, 11:18 PM
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Post no 1,000 cukur
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