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post Sep 25 2025, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(incubus69 @ Sep 25 2025, 05:07 PM)
can give link for Valvoline engine oil ?

too many fake outside. scary
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Thats the good thing about Valvoline now is that it is a cold brand in Malaysia. Cincai search inside shopee, every bottle size is in quart and nothing is cheap. Very littles sellers. If after a few months in and this brand suddenly blows up, then fakes will start to appear.

Its exactly the same scenario with the Toyota GF-6A tin can oil that i am using now. When i started using it last year, it was not sold in shopee at all. After 1 year the fakes started coming in.

So the % of you getting fake now is almost zero with that observation. I will probably check out spare parts shop to see if it is also being sold there.
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post Sep 25 2025, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 06:29 PM)
Their first formula was too effective at removing the sludges. So the sludges didnt soften and gets trapped in the oil filters.

Their current formula works more slowly and able to suspend the sludges in the oil, means break it into very small particles, so no problem like their first formula or like engine flush. Hence their claims need 4 cycles to fully clean
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Good for higher mileage cars eh? 100k km+
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post Sep 25 2025, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Sep 25 2025, 06:57 PM)
Good for higher mileage cars eh? 100k km+
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Yup. Or any cars that just started having oil consumption issues.
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post Sep 25 2025, 07:59 PM

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I always wanted to do engine flush on the 300000 km myvi. But the time and cost is really a deterrent. But now seems like can do it in an economical fashion. Just maybe need to change oil filter 2 -3 times.
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post Sep 25 2025, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 04:19 PM)
10000km mostly highway ok. Mostly city no. Proven and shown by many engine builders

Also, most bmw vw engine makan minyak after just few years. Because their maintenance 10k km.
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sure not confusing miles with km? most mechanics recommend 5k miles or 6 month which converts to about 8k+ km
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post Sep 25 2025, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 08:39 PM)
sure not confusing miles with km? most mechanics recommend 5k miles or 6 month which converts to about 8k+ km
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Yeah, 10k km.
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post Sep 25 2025, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 09:22 PM)
Yeah, 10k km.
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ok well, I'll just follow my car service interval.
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post Sep 25 2025, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 25 2025, 09:28 PM)
ok well, I'll just follow my car service interval.
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Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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post Sep 25 2025, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 09:51 PM)
Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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Its fine, my oil will reach 6 months before 10k km usually around 7-8k km after 6 months
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post Sep 25 2025, 10:07 PM

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Better than Hipro veltorQ V9 Sae 5W-40 4L? I just put it into my exora bold, and oh my the engine runs very smooth. My exora's ODO is around 120k. First time I tried it. Btw Hipro seems like a legit brand as it has its own factory
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QUOTE(imin @ Sep 25 2025, 10:07 PM)
Better than Hipro veltorQ V9 Sae 5W-40 4L? I just put it into my exora bold, and oh my the engine runs very smooth. My exora's ODO is around 120k. First time I tried it. Btw Hipro seems like a legit brand as it has its own factory
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Yes initially i was going to try hipro V9 5w40. Then suddenly saw this valvoline protect already able to get in malaysia, so i bought this valvoline instead. I was looking at this and even inquire to get overseas since 2 years ago. But shipping fees too expensive.

Hipro is very legit and should be very good.
Engine runs very smooth compare to?
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post Sep 25 2025, 11:01 PM

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Yes initially i was going to try hipro V9 5w40. Then suddenly saw this valvoline protect already able to get in malaysia, so i bought this valvoline instead. I was looking at this and even inquire to get overseas since 2 years ago. But shipping fees too expensive.

Hipro is very legit and should be very good.
Engine runs very smooth compare to?
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Very smooth compared to before. Before this I mostly use Petronas Syntium 800 for my exora bold. Anyway I also just changed my spark plug, so not sure if that contributes to my engine's smoothness. Anyway this Valvoline is about double the price of Hipro. Not sure it will be better for my exora or not, but when I asked ChatGPT, basically it says:

For your situation, here’s what I lean towards:

If engine is still healthy, not burning much oil, you keep oil change intervals reasonably frequent (say every 7-10k km or whatever Proton recommends):
→ Hipro VeltorQ V9 5W-40 is a strong choice. The thickness at operating temps helps protect your worn parts, the PAO + ester blend gives good film strength, and the low SAPS additives help longevity.

If your engine has build up/sludge, has been using low quality oil previously, or you care a lot about cleaning and restoring performance:
→ Valvoline Restore & Protect could help. But maybe use it for a couple of oil changes then consider switching to a robust oil like the Hipro. Also, you might want the Restore & Protect grade in 5W-40, if available, to match temperature protection.

If you notice oil burning, leaks, or the car tends to run hot at load, I'd choose a 5W-40 (like Hipro) for better protection.
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post Sep 25 2025, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 09:51 PM)
Fyi car's service interval takes into consideration the 'lifetime' of the vehicle. If u wan use more than 10 years, better dont follow the 10k km intervals. Its so that they attract more customers coz they can promote cheap maintenance!
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No such thing la. Mechanical parts does not works that way. If service interval of 10k works well, then it gonna works forever unless there are parts due to wear and tear.
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post Sep 25 2025, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:21 PM)
No such thing la. Mechanical parts does not works that way. If service interval of 10k works well, then it gonna works forever unless there are parts due to wear and tear.
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Only if everythg else stays the same, which it doesnt.
Thats why engines last longer with faster oil change intervals.

Case in point, which u can see with engine that equips with low tension piston rings. These engines usually by 100k km already having high oil consumptions. With 10k km oil change intervals, 50k mileage engine still ok. So by your logic its gonna last forever? No.
But if these engines undergoes oil change 5k km intervals, its still ok far after 100k km.

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post Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 25 2025, 11:42 PM)
Only if everythg else stays the same, which it doesnt.
Thats why engines last longer with faster oil change intervals.

Case in point, which u can see with engine that equips with low tension piston rings. These engines usually by 100k km already having high oil consumptions. With 10k km oil change intervals, 50k mileage engine still ok. So by your logic its gonna last forever? No.
But if these engines undergoes oil change 5k km intervals, its still ok far after 100k km.
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100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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post Sep 26 2025, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM)
100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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Ermm...this is not due to mechanical. This is due to oil degradation due to high mileage.

U have two data points and your argument is it still works. It will be better if u open up the engine and see how much varnishes is inside the engine, that would be more convincing. But if thats too hard for u, u can see around the world. Learn from others experiences and discoveries.

Not all engines running 300k km with 10k intervals will have issues. Not all engines running 300k km with 5k intervals will not have issues. But there are more issues with 10k intervals than 5k km intervals.

And don't be bias towards data given to u or just shut your eyes to the discoveries done by those people working on the engines. Even the famed nissan gtr engine builder says 5k km with normal genuine oil is better than the best 10k km genuine oil. That gotta have some weigh to it. Take it in, dont be bias to your views due to two data only.

And dont disregarding the issues with low piston rings having issues after 100k km with 10k km mileage intervals. More issues with low piston rings because its weaker hence the symptoms shows up more. Means there are issues with 10k km and it accelerates more if its more of city drive.

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post Sep 26 2025, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 26 2025, 12:17 AM)
Ermm...this is not due to mechanical. This is due to oil degradation due to high mileage.

U have two data points and your argument is it still works. It will be better if u open up the engine and see how much varnishes is inside the engine, that would be more convincing. But if thats too hard for u, u can see around the world. Learn from others experiences and discoveries.

Not all engines running 300k km with 10k intervals will have issues. Not all engines running 300k km with 5k intervals will not have issues. But there are more issues with 10k intervals than 5k km intervals.

And don't be bias towards data given to u or just shut your eyes to the discoveries done by those people working on the engines. Even the famed nissan gtr engine builder says 5k km with normal genuine oil is better than the best 10k km genuine oil. That gotta have some weigh to it. Take it in, dont be bias to your views due to two data only.

And dont disregarding the issues with low piston rings having issues after 100k km with 10k km mileage intervals. More issues with low piston rings because its weaker hence the symptoms shows up more. Means there are issues with 10k km and it accelerates more if its more of city drive.
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but varnishes doesn't harm engine at all. its normal for any engine to have some varnish

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post Sep 26 2025, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 25 2025, 11:55 PM)
100k km is chicken shit nowadays. I have been maintaining 2 of my parents cars, 2002 and 2006 cars, both hitting over 300k km, no issue at all. 2002 5k interval follow manual, 2006 10k interval follow manual too. Seriously, no a single shit problem like eating engine oil and etc.

And guess what, the 2006 engine with more than 300k km mileage is still using 0w20 oil. There are multiple 'genius' foremen I had met throughout the years that keep telling shits like 'old car must use high viscosity oil to protect old engine'. As usual, I don't give a f on them and until today my ca3 got no issue.

Keypoint is, maintain your car as per manual and don't skip any maintenance. And don't stinge on buying fake oils or unknown branded oil. Remember, it's MECHANICAL.
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I wanna know what car engine uses 0/20 made in year 2006. 🤔

2008 Myvi 1.3L uses 5/30 out of box. So am curious what supercar is that.
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post Sep 26 2025, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Sep 26 2025, 12:53 AM)
but varnishes doesn't harm engine at all. its normal for any engine to have some varnish
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Ya varnish doesnt harm the engine. However if u can see varnishes, those prone to carbon deposit areas like at the piston rings and piston oil passage ways almost guaranteed to have some degree of carbon. The longer it goes, the more carbon will slowly build up.

The varnish just shows that there are carbon developing in the engine.
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post Sep 26 2025, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Sep 26 2025, 01:23 AM)
Ya varnish doesnt harm the engine. However if u can see varnishes, those prone to carbon deposit areas like at the piston rings and piston oil passage ways almost guaranteed to have some degree of carbon. The longer it goes, the more carbon will slowly build up.

The varnish just shows that there are carbon developing in the engine.

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Thats what engine oil is suppose to do. remove the carbon by continuous flow. Any engine oil can do this, no need special 'cleaning' oil.
Heck, even Bold Oil is enough lol.

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