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Ticket pricing problem.
Make it cheaper or it becomes white elephant

Rakyat juta2 patut boleh break even kot

HSR cannot be cheaper
if u priced it cheaper, it's gonna be an even worse bailout

like i mentioned many times before, almost no HSR in this world break even...all will need bailout
but malaysians keep wanting it built here

it's a nice thing to have if you have extremely excess amount of money like china

Actually that's abit shocking. Jakarta to Bandung despite how much traffic there is I don't think is as busy as Malaysia Singapore

But the karawang station which serves Cikarang and it's a prime destination for most business visitors opened end last year. They should encourage more visitors to land at Bandung instead of Jakarta and take the HSR and public transport to Cikarang

Ps serve you right Konoha

make ticket cheaper, ROI will be on the 23rd century.

Already discounted!

Ini mcm B40 owning a BMW, beli boleh tetapi tak mampu maintain.
Imagine Java, has a population ~157 million pun unable to support HSR!
Lagi Malaysia/Singapore wants HSR?

Da ckp even in China pop 1.4b & Japan pop 124m, only few HSR lines make profits from ridership!

Revenue will not come from ridership alone. The operator makes money from marketing — advertising on the train as well as commercial operations in and around the stations

About 30-50% revenue come from commercial operations and the development of the areas surrounding the stations.
Example most Japan major HSR stations are also big malls with offices & residential above, mcm mini city.

We all know these endeavors lose money. But why do it in the first place ? To serve people's needs to travel and stimulate economic growth.
If the ticket is expensive, you serve no one and lose money
If ticket is affordable, you serve people and lose money.

So which is the objective?

This post has been edited by killdavid: Aug 21 2025, 07:52 AM

We just need speed of 200km , just right

Faster than Car and Rich Asbon

So people will buy the ticket

120 per way ticket should be reasonable

This post has been edited by GoodBoy2022: Aug 21 2025, 07:53 AM

Neither one - real objective are for kronies.

objective is how rich are you as a country

even in china where some routes doesn't make sense to take plane...dominated by HSR, still can lose money, still need bailout
even in taiwan..this is literally the most successful one i saw, north to south with insane frequency everyday...almost every trip is full, still lose money

so the real question to ask is are you rich enough to keep bailout or not, if the answer is yes...thn build it

Trunk road is free. How much expenses or losses incurred per year?

Billions RM handout to b40 is a losses too.

We are not rich to be able to build, sustain and bail-out HSR.

It's infra meant for public. Why it need to even make profit?


Its like complaining army or KKM is making loss every year.

kesian dumb gov

Sohai
It is a fking public transport

It will gain profits from elsewhere due to its existence. Eg. it could boost tourism of a region. So, this hsr indirectly helps make money in tourism sector

And Shinkansen ticket price in Japan is very expensive. More expensive than flying.

we gonna be next with ECRL

the taiwan shinkansen is making losses.

Now we know why we dont builded it

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