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how about EV bicycle?
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Top speed?
Need to be atleast 85kmh
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this one moving C4 issit ?
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 16 2025, 02:04 PM)
how about EV bicycle?
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1) brapa range?
2) madani give subsidy how much?
3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 16 2025, 02:09 PM)
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anyway this is the one our POS Msia uses? saw it once, damn quiet on the move...
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
1) brapa range?
2) madani give subsidy how much?
3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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1. 100-150km
2. 2.4k subsidy but only for rm10k celery below u no qualify
3. Pakai buang je
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:03 PM)
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80km/h max. Forget it.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 16 2025, 02:14 PM)
1. 100-150km
2. 2.4k subsidy but only for rm10k celery below u no qualify
3. Pakai buang je
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:16 PM)
80km/h max. Forget it.
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post Jun 16 2025, 02:20 PM

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I need top speed 120, range 200.

So far tada hope.
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Maybe condo & taman security good coz silent when going around. for road & harsh heat & heavy use cant beat petrol gas bike . stable & cheap petrol .
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 16 2025, 02:20 PM)
Pi kedai, resutoran, run errand nearby house bole ker…

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blueshark baru boleh la

ni sampah je
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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Use it like ccp intended it for. In ccp all those ev scooters only used within city. Want go hatyai uses train bus or fly.
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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:06 PM)
Top speed?
Need to be atleast 85kmh
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:16 PM)
80km/h max. Forget it.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
1) brapa range?
2) madani give subsidy how much?
3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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Top speed 60km/h. Puiiiii... Bicycle oso can overtake liddis.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:41 PM)
Top speed 60km/h. Puiiiii... Bicycle oso can overtake liddis.
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Guessing you never ride bicycle in a long time on the road edi and don’t realize how hard it is to actually go over 30kph under your own power.

But those blade scooter can easily go 40kph la… crazy riders doing that at night and no helmet and wearing shorts and slippers on public road

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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
1) brapa range?
2) madani give subsidy how much?
3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
1) brapa range?
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3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:42 PM)
Guessing you never ride bicycle in a long time on the road edi and don’t realize how hard it is to actually go over 30kph under your own power.

But those blade scooter can easily go 40kph la… crazy riders doing that at night and no helmet and wearing shorts and slippers on public road
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Tour de France Top Speed | Riders Hit a Huge 130kph / 81mph on Stage Nine of Le Tour

Wokeh wokeh... electric bicycle/e-scooter woso can overtake this bullshit electric motorcycle.


Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.


Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 16 2025, 02:12 PM)
anyway this is the one our POS Msia uses? saw it once, damn quiet on the move...
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Quiet?......damn snatch thief gonna rike.it
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 16 2025, 02:20 PM)
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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:06 PM)
Top speed?
Need to be atleast 85kmh
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
1) brapa range?
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3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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But Yadea Thailand says different for Range = 79km for the same graphene lead-acid battery of 72V 38Ah (WLTP vs CLTC.?)

Topspeed is only 60km/h. .......

https://yadea.co.th/electric-scooter/GT20

Honda Wave Alpha 110: topspeed = 90km/h, full tank range = 250km.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:48 PM)
Tour de France Top Speed | Riders Hit a Huge 130kph / 81mph on Stage Nine of Le Tour

Wokeh wokeh... electric bicycle/e-scooter woso can overtake this bullshit electric motorcycle.
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Ah la knew you would post some exaggerated downhill Tdf riders example. Better to post their time trial records. That one mostly going over flat land but still using aero suit and giant amdk bodies generating twice the power of average local beng.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 16 2025, 02:20 PM)
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Singkie ebasikal oso masuk express way

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:50 PM)
Ah la knew you would post some exaggerated downhill Tdf riders example. Better to post their time trial records. That one mostly going over flat land but still using aero suit and giant amdk bodies generating twice the power of average local beng.
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Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.

Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 02:48 PM)
But Yadea Thailand says different for Range = 79km for the same graphene lead-acid battery of 72V 38Ah (WLTP vs CLTC.?)

Topspeed is only 60km/h. .......

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See that’s why China allowed lane filtering. No dangerous lane filtering when your speed is only slightly faster than city car traffic. Not like here crazy kbt style 90kph road menace weaving

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put 10k on the EV scooter.

Ignore those rempits content, actual run start at 9:43m


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:48 PM)
Tour de France Top Speed | Riders Hit a Huge 130kph / 81mph on Stage Nine of Le Tour

Wokeh wokeh... electric bicycle/e-scooter woso can overtake this bullshit electric motorcycle.
Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.
Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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Better lease swappable battery station blueshark style
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:51 PM)
Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.

Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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Didn’t seem to be a problem for the hundred millions of ccp moi using those ev scooters in ccp. Just don’t bring the battery inside your mega condo using the lift.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:51 PM)
Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.

Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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500 charge cycles is common la for most Li-ion batteries, and it doesn't mean cannot use anymore. Just that the battery would start degrading at that point.

Lets say you change battery after 500 cycles. At 110km @ full charge, that's 55,000 km of distance before you need to change battery. The amount of service you pay for a car moving that much is more expensive than the bike laugh.gif


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2+k , pakai 5 tahun buang je la. What else mau oh
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 16 2025, 02:54 PM)
Better lease swappable battery station blueshark style
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Still seems like not many swap stations.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 16 2025, 03:00 PM)
500 charge cycles is common la for most Li-ion batteries, and it doesn't mean cannot use anymore. Just that the battery would start degrading at that point.

Lets say you change battery after 500 cycles. At 110km @ full charge, that's 55,000 km of distance before you need to change battery. The amount of service you pay for a car moving that much is more expensive than the bike laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 16 2025, 02:53 PM)
put 10k on the EV scooter.

Ignore those rempits content, actual run start at 9:43m

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Modify modify later meletup. China many cases. 230km/h without riding gear. Really content bodoh.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 02:03 PM)
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EV too expensive? Buy laa EV bike, RM 2xxx only
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Also got Regenerative Braking, ADAS/Self-Driving, OTA Updates, Keyless Start/Lock, kuat pecut, 8-years warranty, etc.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 03:04 PM)
EV too expensive? Buy laa EV bike, RM 2xxx only
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Also got Regenerative Braking, ADAS/Self-Driving, OTA Updates, Keyless Start/Lock, kuat pecut, 8-years warranty, etc.?
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RM 2xxx also mao kpkb, you wait Tesla launch EV bike laa. Inb4 Tesla also Made in Chyna.
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Aiyooo... this is meant as an urban mobility transport lah.

Use it as INTENDED and it will be just fine.

If you are talking highway use, to be frank, I won't even take a kapchai on the highway.


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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:51 PM)
Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.

Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:01 PM)
2+k , pakai 5 tahun buang je la. What else mau oh
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The Yadea GT20 uses a graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) that costs only about RM100 to replace-new.

500 charge cycles = will last average 2-3 years = similar to ICE-V car's 12V lead-acid battery.

ICE-V kapchai's lead-acid battery will also last average 2-3 years and costs about RM50 to replace-new.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 03:20 PM)
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The Yadea GT20 uses a graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) that costs only about RM100 to replace-new.

500 charge cycles = will last average 2-3 years = similar to ICE-V car's 12V lead-acid battery.

ICE-V kapchai's lead-acid battery will also last average 2-3 years and costs about RM50 to replace-new.
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Oh... RM100 not bad la. I thought few thousand ringgit. But that top speed and charging time still bullshit.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:12 PM)
RM 2xxx also mao kpkb, you wait Tesla launch EV bike laa. Inb4 Tesla also Made in Chyna.
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Yi Long Ma dun wan make moto.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:23 PM)
Oh... RM100 not bad la. I thought few thousand ringgit. But that top speed and charging time still bullshit.
Yi Long Ma dun wan make moto.
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RM 2xxx, you want what charging? 100kw like a 100k BYD EV ka ? 2xxx can't even buy a iPhone.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:25 PM)
RM 2xxx, you want what charging? 100kw like a 100k BYD EV ka ? 2xxx can't even buy a iPhone.
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Whatever complains people have about electric cars, electric motorcycles suck even more. This thing seems more like an electric bicycle than a motorcycle. RM2xxx with heavy subsidies.
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no reason to buy this over kapchai at all.
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60km/h... year 1998 honda kapchai can even go faster..
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:48 PM)
Tour de France Top Speed | Riders Hit a Huge 130kph / 81mph on Stage Nine of Le Tour

Wokeh wokeh... electric bicycle/e-scooter woso can overtake this bullshit electric motorcycle.
Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.
Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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yup, stick graphene on lead acid battery with 500 cycle battery and 8 hours charging.
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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 16 2025, 03:28 PM)
60km/h... year 1998 honda kapchai can even go faster..
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60km/h if you crash into a car, bet you need hospital for a month. Dun Play pray
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:27 PM)
Whatever complains people have about electric cars, electric motorcycles suck even more. This thing seems more like an electric bicycle than a motorcycle. RM2xxx with heavy subsidies.
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so dont knock it. hahaha. Obviously, you are not the targeted buyer.

I see quite a number of electric scooters/mopeds in my area. This would be no different. There is certainly a market for it.

I tested the Blueshark sometime ago. Not for me, but I can see why some of these electric scooters may be appealing to some people. The Blueshark was expensive and battery swap stations are very few and rare.


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good for heavy city usage like KL la but then using bicycle is more accessible, not prone to fire and doesnt cost 2k with 8h downtime
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:45 PM)
Just buy a kapcai la
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You buy this people automatic assume you living in landed, chest +99 inches. 2xxx can get SYM only.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:44 PM)
so dont knock it. hahaha. Obviously, you are not the targeted buyer.

I see quite a number of electric scooters/mopeds in my area. This would be no different. There is certainly a market for it.

I tested the Blueshark sometime ago. Not for me, but I can see why some of these electric scooters may be appealing to some people. The Blueshark was expensive and battery swap stations are very few and rare.
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For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:53 PM)
You buy this people automatic assume you living in landed, chest +99 inches. 2xxx can get SYM only.
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Really got RM2xxx SYM?

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
should buy for my condo guard LOL
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Guards already using those tiny electric scooters. 10km range pun cukup kek.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.
Really got RM2xxx SYM?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 03:20 PM)
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The Yadea GT20 uses a graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) that costs only about RM100 to replace-new.

500 charge cycles = will last average 2-3 years = similar to ICE-V car's 12V lead-acid battery.

ICE-V kapchai's lead-acid battery will also last average 2-3 years and costs about RM50 to replace-new.
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100+ only? Damnnn
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 02:03 PM)
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Wow, not bad. Meet my usage go pasar, mini mart and surau.
But ayam sket self ignite and burn my house/cars
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QUOTE(saiga @ Jun 16 2025, 04:03 PM)
Wow,  not bad. Meet my usage go pasar, mini mart and surau.
But ayam sket self ignite and burn my house/cars
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China brands if can be exports worldwide like Haier Hisense Midea BYD & this Yadea means the quality 100% safe.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:57 PM)
Guards already using those tiny electric scooters. 10km range pun cukup kek.
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we got that, already spoilt few units over the last 4-5 years, somemore my condo has slope

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:33 PM)
60km/h if you crash into a car, bet you need hospital for a month. Dun Play pray
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Topspeed =/= speed to crash into a car.
Topspeed == indicates how fast you can reach your destination, esp for longer distance commute, eg KL-Klang.
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60km/h is topspeed. Riders normal speed is about 50km/h or 80% of topspeed. Constantly riding at topspeed/60km/h will soon cause damage to the electric motor and/or battery, eg overheat.

Similarly for ICE-V kapchai's topseed of 90km/h but normal riding speed is 60-70km/h.
....... Mat Rempit = "abnormal" riders.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
Really got RM2xxx SYM?
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got.... used 2008 sym..
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:20 PM)
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Topspeed =/= speed to crash into a car.
Topspeed == indicates how fast you can reach your destination, esp for longer distance commute, eg KL-Klang.
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60km/h is topspeed. Riders normal speed is about 50km/h or 80% of topspeed. Constantly riding at topspeed/60km/h will soon cause damage to the electric motor and/or battery, eg overheat.

Similarly for ICE-V kapchai's topseed of 90km/h but normal riding speed is 60-70km/h.
....... Mat Rempit = "abnormal" riders.
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Bro. At 60km/h even my petrol scooter vibration already, tyres vibration, handle also vibration, if in front got pot holes, GGWP
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.
Really got RM2xxx SYM?
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:00 PM)
SYM e bonus 110. Cheaper than iPhone
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https://www.motomalaysia.com/aveta-dy90-2020-malaysia/

CCP China Aveta DY90 (90cc) = RM2,888.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:27 PM)
Bro. At 60km/h even my petrol scooter vibration already, tyres vibration, handle also vibration, if in front got pot holes, GGWP
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That's why petrol kapchai > petrol scooter.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:31 PM)
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That's why petrol kapchai > petrol scooter.
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60km/h is good la, so that you guys won't say motobodo everytime got accident. If 60km/h still accident surely it's carbodo fault right ?
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.
Really got RM2xxx SYM?
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ban those. kapcai and kei car were not designed for intercity highway travel when it was conceived.

this is what EV scooter are supposed to serve. imagine how clean air and quiet those roads are even though so much traffic. no wonder ccp moi tourist come here complain damn kau noisy everywhere horn horn and moto engine noise.

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cannot exceed 25kph in beijing shanghai.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:31 PM)
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That's why petrol kapchai > petrol scooter.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:38 PM)
60km/h is good la, so that you guys won't say motobodo everytime got accident. If 60km/h still accident surely it's carbodo fault right ?
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It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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Maybe cos Malaysians life is cheaper than iPhone & our politicians are trying to be as rich as their cronies.
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Saw similar bike like this on mex once, my thought was "not bad"
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:23 PM)
Oh... RM100 not bad la. I thought few thousand ringgit. But that top speed and charging time still bullshit.
Yi Long Ma dun wan make moto.
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Douyin got plenty of scooters advertise for 288 yuan etc

Elon n amdk not interested in ultra low profit products la.
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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 16 2025, 04:14 PM)
we got that, already spoilt few units over the last 4-5 years, somemore my condo has slope
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Kek I didn't know those tiny scooters cannot naik bukit.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:50 PM)
Douyin got plenty of scooters advertise for 288 yuan etc
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What... RM100+ scooters?

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:39 PM)
ban those. kapcai and kei car were not designed for intercity highway travel when it was conceived.
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Then bigger bikes you complain too fast.

Ban ban ban then public transport like Japan peak hour sardine can until people literally need to be pushed into the trains.

Why not ban cars too? Then traffic jam completely doesn't exist anymore. Everyone use public transport then last mile use e-bikes. Then when train rosak thousands of people all stuck yay.

The biggest cause of human problems are humans. I suggest ban humans.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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Where got ban? Neta V Zero NCAP oso can sell in Malaysia.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:00 PM)
SYM e bonus 110. Cheaper than iPhone
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Takde pun on SYM's website.

QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:28 PM)
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https://www.motomalaysia.com/aveta-dy90-2020-malaysia/

CCP China Aveta DY90 (90cc) = RM2,888.
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Taiwan and China moto both oso like not reliable.

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:59 PM)
Then bigger bikes you complain too fast.

Taiwan and China moto both oso like not reliable.
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i have no problem if all our two wheel bikes were like CCP. heck I would even get one to ride around town if I knew majority of traffic around were was like that.

that one looked like a clone of EX5. recently ccp been upgrading their cloning game of jepunis kapcai classics. but maybe cuz not for sale in motherland the standards are lower.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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AFAIK, buses and lorries also no airbags and no NCAP.
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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:00 PM)
SYM e bonus 110. Cheaper than iPhone
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if u want compare used motor with new iphone, any kapchai also can be cheaper, given it old enough..

https://www.symmotor.com.my/en/post/revolut...g-price-rm8-588
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:16 PM)
80km/h max. Forget it.
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where write? mostly these price around 50km/h only.. if 80 i would consider
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 03:20 PM)
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The Yadea GT20 uses a graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) that costs only about RM100 to replace-new.

500 charge cycles = will last average 2-3 years = similar to ICE-V car's 12V lead-acid battery.

ICE-V kapchai's lead-acid battery will also last average 2-3 years and costs about RM50 to replace-new.
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You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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Eh not bad at all. Battery also is cheap.

Edit:
Is it possible to cabut the battery and charge it inside home?

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 05:59 PM)
You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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Seems too good to be true. How can a RM100 battery power a motorcycle for 100km?
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 05:59 PM)
You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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Should be, .......

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Prof...1362223497.html - Professional 7kg 72Volt Graphene EV Battery 6-DZM-20 Bike Packs for Motorcycle Storage in Philippines-Price Inquiry - US$17.30 per unit for orders of >50 units

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Grap...1110121099.html - Graphene Technology 6-evf-32 12v 32ah 6-evf-38 12v 36v 48v 52v 72v 30ah 32ah Conversion Kit 2000w Triangle Ebike Battery - US$22.35 per unit for orders of 100-499 units

Maybe closer to RM200 each.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 07:55 PM)
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Should be, .......

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Grap...1110121099.html - Graphene Technology 6-evf-32 12v 32ah 6-evf-38 12v 36v 48v 52v 72v 30ah 32ah Conversion Kit 2000w Triangle Ebike Battery  - US$22.35 per unit for orders of 100-499 units

Maybe closer to RM200 each.
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Have u tried adding the items to cart?
Different Voltage or Ah options they are all the same price.
You dun find it suspicious?

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 08:21 PM)
Have u tried adding the items to cart?
Different Voltage or Ah options they are all the same price.
You dun find it suspicious?
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You may be right, .......

https://www.reddit.com/r/ebikes/comments/1e...tery_for_ebike/ - Battery for e-bike - 10 months ago

= seems to get 72V, they put 6X12V38Ah batteries connected in series. If so, the cost of replacing the Yadea GT20 graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) should be >RM600.
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https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Chin...1211811279.html - China Hot Sell Graphene 6-dzm-20 12v20ah 20ah 48v 20ah Rechargeable Lead Acid Electric Bicycle Scooter Bike Battery - US$28 per unit for orders of 2-999 units
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QUOTE(billylks @ Jun 16 2025, 06:27 PM)
Eh not bad at all. Battery also is cheap.

Edit:
Is it possible to cabut the battery and charge it inside home?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:28 PM)
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https://www.motomalaysia.com/aveta-dy90-2020-malaysia/

CCP China Aveta DY90 (90cc) = RM2,888.
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apa ni EX5 copy
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jun 17 2025, 04:01 PM)
apa ni EX5 copy
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CCP Cina dan copy, berpisah tiada.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.
Really got RM2xxx SYM?
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Honestly, i dont think kapchais can do long distance...at least comfortably or safely at higher speeds. But thats just my opinion. Many others will beg to differ...and no doubt take them on higher speed roads.

Same like these urban mobility EV scooters. They are not meant to travel at higher speed roads, relegated to intracity use or small town, taman use. Where your speed limits are usually under 60km/h. They have their uses. Just not big roads. No doubt some might take them where they are not supposed to.

These EV scooters are just simple to use. Just twist and go. No gears. No start. Just turn on, twist and go. The Blueshark actually has a reverse "gear". People have accustomed themselves with charging stuff up every night anyway. This would be no different.

There are kapchais sold under 3k. The old Aveta Ranger routinely goes for close to 3k. The basic Sym 110 can be had for around 3.2k. If you find those number plate bikes, and you can get them well under 3k easily. Incidentally, I found one WMOTO cub classic, brand new registered (for plate purposes) with 1km on the clock going for 2.5k.

My JMB Security has 2 of those cheap china scooters they take on patrol. Curiously, seem to be holding up well after 2 years.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 17 2025, 05:09 PM)
Honestly, i dont think kapchais can do long distance...at least comfortably or safely at higher speeds. But thats just my opinion. Many others will beg to differ...and no doubt take them on higher speed roads.

Same like these urban mobility EV scooters. They are not meant to travel at higher speed roads, relegated to intracity use or small town, taman use. Where your speed limits are usually under 60km/h. They have their uses. Just not big roads. No doubt some might take them where they are not supposed to.

These EV scooters are just simple to use. Just twist and go. No gears. No start. Just turn on, twist and go. The Blueshark actually has a reverse "gear". People have accustomed themselves with charging stuff up every night anyway. This would be no different.

There are kapchais sold under 3k. The old Aveta Ranger routinely goes for close to 3k. The basic Sym 110 can be had for around 3.2k. If you find those number plate bikes, and you can get them well under 3k easily. Incidentally, I found one WMOTO cub classic, brand new registered (for plate purposes) with 1km on the clock going for 2.5k.

My JMB Security has 2 of those cheap china scooters they take on patrol. Curiously, seem to be holding up well after 2 years.
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Good points.

I tried riding a scooter once. Didn't like it. Too used to riding a bike with gears and right foot for rear brake.

 

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