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 EV too expensive? Buy laa EV bike, RM 2xxx only, Yadea GT20.

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JohnL77
post Jun 16 2025, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(rtk73 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:06 PM)
Top speed?
Need to be atleast 85kmh
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:16 PM)
80km/h max. Forget it.
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QUOTE(JoeK @ Jun 16 2025, 02:10 PM)
1) brapa range?
2) madani give subsidy how much?
3) if go ride to hatyai, where to charge?
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Top speed 60km/h. Puiiiii... Bicycle oso can overtake liddis.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 02:22 PM)
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post Jun 16 2025, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:42 PM)
Guessing you never ride bicycle in a long time on the road edi and don’t realize how hard it is to actually go over 30kph under your own power.

But those blade scooter can easily go 40kph la… crazy riders doing that at night and no helmet and wearing shorts and slippers on public road
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Tour de France Top Speed | Riders Hit a Huge 130kph / 81mph on Stage Nine of Le Tour

Wokeh wokeh... electric bicycle/e-scooter woso can overtake this bullshit electric motorcycle.


Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.


Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.

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post Jun 16 2025, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:50 PM)
Ah la knew you would post some exaggerated downhill Tdf riders example. Better to post their time trial records. That one mostly going over flat land but still using aero suit and giant amdk bodies generating twice the power of average local beng.
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Charging time 8 hours for 110km range. Puuuuuuuuuuuundek la.

Am I reading this correctly? The battery can only charge zero to full 500 times? After that need to buy new battery? Puuuuuuuuuundek la.
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 16 2025, 02:54 PM)
Better lease swappable battery station blueshark style
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Still seems like not many swap stations.

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jun 16 2025, 03:00 PM)
500 charge cycles is common la for most Li-ion batteries, and it doesn't mean cannot use anymore. Just that the battery would start degrading at that point.

Lets say you change battery after 500 cycles. At 110km @ full charge, that's 55,000 km of distance before you need to change battery. The amount of service you pay for a car moving that much is more expensive than the bike laugh.gif
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Should compare moto with moto.

QUOTE(ajaibman @ Jun 16 2025, 02:53 PM)
put 10k on the EV scooter.

Ignore those rempits content, actual run start at 9:43m

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Modify modify later meletup. China many cases. 230km/h without riding gear. Really content bodoh.
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 03:20 PM)
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The Yadea GT20 uses a graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) that costs only about RM100 to replace-new.

500 charge cycles = will last average 2-3 years = similar to ICE-V car's 12V lead-acid battery.

ICE-V kapchai's lead-acid battery will also last average 2-3 years and costs about RM50 to replace-new.
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Oh... RM100 not bad la. I thought few thousand ringgit. But that top speed and charging time still bullshit.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:12 PM)
RM 2xxx also mao kpkb, you wait Tesla launch EV bike laa. Inb4 Tesla also Made in Chyna.
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Yi Long Ma dun wan make moto.
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:25 PM)
RM 2xxx, you want what charging? 100kw like a 100k BYD EV ka ? 2xxx can't even buy a iPhone.
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Whatever complains people have about electric cars, electric motorcycles suck even more. This thing seems more like an electric bicycle than a motorcycle. RM2xxx with heavy subsidies.
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post Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:44 PM)
so dont knock it. hahaha. Obviously, you are not the targeted buyer.

I see quite a number of electric scooters/mopeds in my area. This would be no different. There is certainly a market for it.

I tested the Blueshark sometime ago. Not for me, but I can see why some of these electric scooters may be appealing to some people. The Blueshark was expensive and battery swap stations are very few and rare.
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For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 03:53 PM)
You buy this people automatic assume you living in landed, chest +99 inches. 2xxx can get SYM only.
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Really got RM2xxx SYM?

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post Jun 16 2025, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
should buy for my condo guard LOL
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Guards already using those tiny electric scooters. 10km range pun cukup kek.
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post Jun 16 2025, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 16 2025, 04:14 PM)
we got that, already spoilt few units over the last 4-5 years, somemore my condo has slope
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Kek I didn't know those tiny scooters cannot naik bukit.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:50 PM)
Douyin got plenty of scooters advertise for 288 yuan etc
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What... RM100+ scooters?

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:39 PM)
ban those. kapcai and kei car were not designed for intercity highway travel when it was conceived.
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Then bigger bikes you complain too fast.

Ban ban ban then public transport like Japan peak hour sardine can until people literally need to be pushed into the trains.

Why not ban cars too? Then traffic jam completely doesn't exist anymore. Everyone use public transport then last mile use e-bikes. Then when train rosak thousands of people all stuck yay.

The biggest cause of human problems are humans. I suggest ban humans.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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Where got ban? Neta V Zero NCAP oso can sell in Malaysia.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:00 PM)
SYM e bonus 110. Cheaper than iPhone
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Takde pun on SYM's website.

QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:28 PM)
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https://www.motomalaysia.com/aveta-dy90-2020-malaysia/

CCP China Aveta DY90 (90cc) = RM2,888.
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Taiwan and China moto both oso like not reliable.

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post Jun 16 2025, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 05:59 PM)
You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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Seems too good to be true. How can a RM100 battery power a motorcycle for 100km?
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post Jun 17 2025, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 17 2025, 05:09 PM)
Honestly, i dont think kapchais can do long distance...at least comfortably or safely at higher speeds. But thats just my opinion. Many others will beg to differ...and no doubt take them on higher speed roads.

Same like these urban mobility EV scooters. They are not meant to travel at higher speed roads, relegated to intracity use or small town, taman use. Where your speed limits are usually under 60km/h. They have their uses. Just not big roads. No doubt some might take them where they are not supposed to.

These EV scooters are just simple to use. Just twist and go. No gears. No start. Just turn on, twist and go. The Blueshark actually has a reverse "gear". People have accustomed themselves with charging stuff up every night anyway. This would be no different.

There are kapchais sold under 3k. The old Aveta Ranger routinely goes for close to 3k. The basic Sym 110 can be had for around 3.2k. If you find those number plate bikes, and you can get them well under 3k easily. Incidentally, I found one WMOTO cub classic, brand new registered (for plate purposes) with 1km on the clock going for 2.5k.

My JMB Security has 2 of those cheap china scooters they take on patrol. Curiously, seem to be holding up well after 2 years.
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Good points.

I tried riding a scooter once. Didn't like it. Too used to riding a bike with gears and right foot for rear brake.

 

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