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 EV too expensive? Buy laa EV bike, RM 2xxx only, Yadea GT20.

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post Jun 16 2025, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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Maybe cos Malaysians life is cheaper than iPhone & our politicians are trying to be as rich as their cronies.
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post Jun 16 2025, 04:45 PM

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Saw similar bike like this on mex once, my thought was "not bad"
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post Jun 16 2025, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:23 PM)
Oh... RM100 not bad la. I thought few thousand ringgit. But that top speed and charging time still bullshit.
Yi Long Ma dun wan make moto.
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Douyin got plenty of scooters advertise for 288 yuan etc

Elon n amdk not interested in ultra low profit products la.
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post Jun 16 2025, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 16 2025, 04:14 PM)
we got that, already spoilt few units over the last 4-5 years, somemore my condo has slope
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Kek I didn't know those tiny scooters cannot naik bukit.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:50 PM)
Douyin got plenty of scooters advertise for 288 yuan etc
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What... RM100+ scooters?

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:39 PM)
ban those. kapcai and kei car were not designed for intercity highway travel when it was conceived.
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Then bigger bikes you complain too fast.

Ban ban ban then public transport like Japan peak hour sardine can until people literally need to be pushed into the trains.

Why not ban cars too? Then traffic jam completely doesn't exist anymore. Everyone use public transport then last mile use e-bikes. Then when train rosak thousands of people all stuck yay.

The biggest cause of human problems are humans. I suggest ban humans.

QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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Where got ban? Neta V Zero NCAP oso can sell in Malaysia.

QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:00 PM)
SYM e bonus 110. Cheaper than iPhone
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Takde pun on SYM's website.

QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:28 PM)
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https://www.motomalaysia.com/aveta-dy90-2020-malaysia/

CCP China Aveta DY90 (90cc) = RM2,888.
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Taiwan and China moto both oso like not reliable.

This post has been edited by JohnL77: Jun 16 2025, 05:00 PM
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post Jun 16 2025, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:59 PM)
Then bigger bikes you complain too fast.

Taiwan and China moto both oso like not reliable.
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i have no problem if all our two wheel bikes were like CCP. heck I would even get one to ride around town if I knew majority of traffic around were was like that.

that one looked like a clone of EX5. recently ccp been upgrading their cloning game of jepunis kapcai classics. but maybe cuz not for sale in motherland the standards are lower.

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post Jun 16 2025, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 16 2025, 04:41 PM)
It doenst make sense that we ban selling cars with zero ncap, mandate airbags on new cars then allow motorized two wheelers with no airbags and negative ncap that can go 120kph.
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AFAIK, buses and lorries also no airbags and no NCAP.
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post Jun 16 2025, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(Syok Your Mom @ Jun 16 2025, 04:00 PM)
SYM e bonus 110. Cheaper than iPhone
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if u want compare used motor with new iphone, any kapchai also can be cheaper, given it old enough..

https://www.symmotor.com.my/en/post/revolut...g-price-rm8-588
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post Jun 16 2025, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Jun 16 2025, 02:16 PM)
80km/h max. Forget it.
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where write? mostly these price around 50km/h only.. if 80 i would consider
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 03:20 PM)
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The Yadea GT20 uses a graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) that costs only about RM100 to replace-new.

500 charge cycles = will last average 2-3 years = similar to ICE-V car's 12V lead-acid battery.

ICE-V kapchai's lead-acid battery will also last average 2-3 years and costs about RM50 to replace-new.
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You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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post Jun 16 2025, 06:27 PM

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Eh not bad at all. Battery also is cheap.

Edit:
Is it possible to cabut the battery and charge it inside home?

This post has been edited by billylks: Jun 16 2025, 06:30 PM
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post Jun 16 2025, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 05:59 PM)
You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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Seems too good to be true. How can a RM100 battery power a motorcycle for 100km?
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post Jun 16 2025, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 05:59 PM)
You sure or not the entire battery pack cost RM100 to replace?
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Should be, .......

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Prof...1362223497.html - Professional 7kg 72Volt Graphene EV Battery 6-DZM-20 Bike Packs for Motorcycle Storage in Philippines-Price Inquiry - US$17.30 per unit for orders of >50 units

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Grap...1110121099.html - Graphene Technology 6-evf-32 12v 32ah 6-evf-38 12v 36v 48v 52v 72v 30ah 32ah Conversion Kit 2000w Triangle Ebike Battery - US$22.35 per unit for orders of 100-499 units

Maybe closer to RM200 each.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 07:55 PM)
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Should be, .......

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Grap...1110121099.html - Graphene Technology 6-evf-32 12v 32ah 6-evf-38 12v 36v 48v 52v 72v 30ah 32ah Conversion Kit 2000w Triangle Ebike Battery  - US$22.35 per unit for orders of 100-499 units

Maybe closer to RM200 each.
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Have u tried adding the items to cart?
Different Voltage or Ah options they are all the same price.
You dun find it suspicious?

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post Jun 17 2025, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Jun 16 2025, 08:21 PM)
Have u tried adding the items to cart?
Different Voltage or Ah options they are all the same price.
You dun find it suspicious?
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You may be right, .......

https://www.reddit.com/r/ebikes/comments/1e...tery_for_ebike/ - Battery for e-bike - 10 months ago

= seems to get 72V, they put 6X12V38Ah batteries connected in series. If so, the cost of replacing the Yadea GT20 graphene lead-acid battery (72V 38Ah) should be >RM600.
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https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Chin...1211811279.html - China Hot Sell Graphene 6-dzm-20 12v20ah 20ah 48v 20ah Rechargeable Lead Acid Electric Bicycle Scooter Bike Battery - US$28 per unit for orders of 2-999 units
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QUOTE(billylks @ Jun 16 2025, 06:27 PM)
Eh not bad at all. Battery also is cheap.

Edit:
Is it possible to cabut the battery and charge it inside home?
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nanti short circuit burn DB box baru tau
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 16 2025, 04:28 PM)
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https://www.motomalaysia.com/aveta-dy90-2020-malaysia/

CCP China Aveta DY90 (90cc) = RM2,888.
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apa ni EX5 copy
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post Jun 17 2025, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jun 17 2025, 04:01 PM)
apa ni EX5 copy
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CCP Cina dan copy, berpisah tiada.
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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 16 2025, 03:54 PM)
For now it seems to fill a small niche. Unlike ICE kapcai, you can ride it in the city, you can ride it long distance. Maybe it makes more sense as rentals in the city center, but it seems that nobody can make the rental model work.
Really got RM2xxx SYM?
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Honestly, i dont think kapchais can do long distance...at least comfortably or safely at higher speeds. But thats just my opinion. Many others will beg to differ...and no doubt take them on higher speed roads.

Same like these urban mobility EV scooters. They are not meant to travel at higher speed roads, relegated to intracity use or small town, taman use. Where your speed limits are usually under 60km/h. They have their uses. Just not big roads. No doubt some might take them where they are not supposed to.

These EV scooters are just simple to use. Just twist and go. No gears. No start. Just turn on, twist and go. The Blueshark actually has a reverse "gear". People have accustomed themselves with charging stuff up every night anyway. This would be no different.

There are kapchais sold under 3k. The old Aveta Ranger routinely goes for close to 3k. The basic Sym 110 can be had for around 3.2k. If you find those number plate bikes, and you can get them well under 3k easily. Incidentally, I found one WMOTO cub classic, brand new registered (for plate purposes) with 1km on the clock going for 2.5k.

My JMB Security has 2 of those cheap china scooters they take on patrol. Curiously, seem to be holding up well after 2 years.

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