Betul ke gaji doktor tu rendah?

Kalo golongan T2 itu gaji rendah, gaji kito yg pertengahan itu mmg hampeh. Gaji doktor bukan T20 tapi T2! Baca betul-betul.

Ntah la, aku yg ada ijazah sarjana pon baru gaji 12k lepas 20+ tahun bekerja, tapi gaji doktor dh mencecah 15k-18k dengan 10 tahun pengalaman je... Pastu berani mengeluh pasal gaji rendah.

Doctor salary 15k? Not even enough to pakai BMW

But how come doctors many main merc bmw jaguar tesla? All tekan loan max ke?

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Just met my locum today at Pucheong klinik, driving a new X4. Sapa ckp gaji 15k tak cukup beli Bmw? Unker gaji lbh 20k pon bawa Honda aje..

if those are T2 thn those vincent tan and multi millionaires are categorized under what?


and try gov doctor's salary

Gaji rendah are the Gov Drs la

they always compared with their friends/collegues in oversea la. of course never enough.

meanwhile myself i dont give shit about comparing salary. life is not about earning money anyway. can makan, got place to sleep, can pay bills good enough for me.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jun 14 2025, 09:18 PM

belajar teruk ini je dapat?

No way govt doctor earning that amount.

Doctor open their own clinic can earn much more

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Please don't keep comparing to Vincent Tan and the billionaires. If you want to compare, please open business. The chart I posted are real Malaysian household numbers from DOSM.

Lol do you think Vincent Tan and multi millionaires are T2???

Means every 100 Malaysians 2 of them are Vincent Tan/multi millionaire???

This sounds like something rich people would say

lel, even myself during uni time, start adult life also not thinking about money. syukur with the things that i have.

U think all gov docs can compare to private docs? If wanted to be rich then go private practice la. Gov never can get rich unless you already climbed the seniority level.

there are more multi millionaires in malaysia than u think
i'm just saying multi millionaires, not billionaires yet
doctors themselves are considered as multi millionaires today too...and it doesn't really have to be a medical doctor



This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jun 14 2025, 10:38 PM

I have a friend. Gov sector, working as some associate or junior level or mid level. Can't really know exact term.

She's pretty and she became 'small three ' of a wealthy businessman

Brother don't twist. You put Vincent Tan name there.

And even if we ignore Vincent Tan, do you really think in every 100 Malaysian, 2 of them is a multimillionaire????

Depends on how you define multimillionaire though.

If having 2 million means multimillionaire and it is on overall net worth rather than liquid asset then the number should be quite a lot since houses now easily hit more than RM500k.

oh well most doctors I know are buying porsche or Ferrari in cash term

18k gross
13k nett salary

cannot really spend like real t10. I have seen many loctors terkena financial trap jugak.

>2022 data

why ? , should use 2024

puas think that is T2, lol...apasai tak blaja btul2?

last time, i might not think so

today?...absolutely yes

i even know 1 specialist that worked for KKM, his house is full of porsche and high end mercedes

Straight As study law, come out working for only 2.5-3k.

Straight As study engineering, come out also only rm2.5k.

Meanwhile those study medicine are hyper overpaid rm8k- 10k for doing a lousy job. During 1990s, common thing for doctors to do 72 hours shift. But now, doing 16-24 hours shift also bising like dumbo demanding entitlement.

GP vs Specialist

Sounds jelly

Study hard in medicine. Upfront hundreds of RM. Of course expecting celery at least RM30k/m

18k is already T1 in our country. What do you mean by real T10? Household T10 is only RM 20k. If both husband and wife have 18k, household will become T1.

Bkoz DOSM only release up to 2022. Overall numbers won't differ by too much.

That means the clinics are earning enough, no need to raise the consultancy price.

You cannot compare based on experience, it has to be based on skillsets and the difficulty of obtaining that skillsets.

I am not comparing experience. I am just stating fact that from Jobstreet, doctor's salary easily exceed RM 10k for almost all of the cases that I observe. No other job I see have this high average celery.

And frankly, most doctors are not that great. Just dispense panadol, antihistamines, cough relief, mucus decongestant and all those symptom relief meds. When toddlers / children have high fever that recurs less than 6h, their advice is just to take another dose of paracetamol without regard to the maximum daily dosage or paracetamol.

For more difficult cases involving allergy or skin conditions, most MO are hopeless. Their differential diagnosis abilities completely freeze over, and all they do is to defer it to specialist. And for these ability, they are paid more than 10k. I dunno about you, but the job seems rather cushy to me.

this one private ma sure like that lo

Then ma go to private lo. No nid to komplen pathe mathe....

orang cakap gov doctor. ini semua GP clinic. Private clinic. pergi study betul betul mana satu newsportal yang cakap gaji rendah tu. patutlah berkerja tahun tahun masih 10k

Of course they need to have higher than average grades, have higher than average university length, and as well as housemanship and all, the fees for private education is also higher.
What profession are you comparing with ? Most people in finance and sales can exceed this salary easily.

But my area shoplot filled with clinic x y z
Those bukakke clinic brpa celery

he sour coz he work 20 years salary is 10k+

Seriously you need to go out more from your industry.
Nowadays people talk about talent not degree holder .

dont u smell sour taste in the whole post?

I feel his mindset very "government servant" like, so most likely he is working in GLC or as a government servant.

In the government servant culture, years of experience is king, not talent and merit.
So he assumes the culture is the same in private sector. This is made worst because his exposure to other government servant... he has never been in a situation where fresh graduate can outperform a 15 year old experience government servant.

hahaha ya true. time based performance

Sales and Finance? Just go to Jobstreet and search. The average is definitely below 10k. I can find sales at below 5k easily, but I can't find doctor below 5k.

Who doesn't know salary is dependent on skills and talent? Water is wet, sky is blue. The salary I quoted earlier are for MO. I have not even pulled out salaries of specialists. Spend some time doing research, don't just keep holding onto old narrative.

I am not denying becoming a doctor needs more time to study, but they are also getting a higher salary on average. The issue about underpaid is not unique to doctors, it is a national issue. Minimum wage has been on the rise recently, and that is somewhat a good thing. Do some research and you will understand things better.

T2 MYR is not much. Don't believe? Ask bill gates.

nak brag gaji ko 12k ke? owai
no la wife kerja 15 years already she earn 10500 basic salary + allowance
medical officer normal doctor

Lol, you two got it wrong completely.

Doctors are not alone in being underpaid. Like I said above, it is a national issue. You two look up to doctors as though you worship doctors, so much so it clouds your judgement completely.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry111764103

I responded to the other thread, not going to retype here.

The key point is there is nothing special about being a doctor. Teachers are also noble profession, academia too requires long study period, politicians can save more lives. Think about the issue critically, and you will see that doctors are not underpaid in the context of our country. But if you want to talk about us losing talent to overseas, that is a completely different topic.

Ting ting ting!

Thank you for proving my point! Doctors are not underpaid at all. Dh habis keje aku kat sini.

Bagus gaji wife ko dh melebihi aku, jd bangga la. Moga ko yg T20 ni kurang komplen lepas ni.

See nkte5207 Drian?

Look the bolded show that you are comparing with your ownself and saying how dare a doctor with less experience than me can earn more than me. This shows that you do not understand talent , skillsets, supply demand in determining salary.

Also you don't understand private sector pay and government sector pay.

see what?

His post shows that your salary range for government doctor has been exaggerated.

politicians can save more lives, using healthcare staff. you think politician say KKM RM1 then it's from their own pocket and heroics? duh. how they maintain it at RM1?? who are they underpaying? the contractors of the hospitals? the suppliers of medication and equipment?

and you think politicians are lowly paid?

LMAO not to mention the additional side income

you sound like someone who has a beef with doctors.....

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jun 15 2025, 04:18 PM

hahaha he even cherry pick those high paying job ads...

why he never pick those which advertise 8k for GP job?

no wonder he feels that way

basically he jelly...

Because then his narrative and propaganda becomes inaccurate. So must show the higher version. Keep quiet on the lower salary range.

not applicable for gomen dukturs.
20 years working also will never reach /k standard RM20k.

Unless got outside jobs...

specialist cant meh??

if cant then really no wonder why so many leave lol, ktard in their 20s already 20k , specialist in their 40s still not yet 20k then look down by ktards

Senior consultant surgeon 18k inclusive of oncall allowance

Go private do simple2 case one month at least 60-80k

It is you who do not understand. Everyone and their mother knows that government servants are paid lesser than private. It happens across the entire workforce. Don't like it? Join private sector. Simple as that.

Whether you belip it or not, I am completely OK with doctors earn more than me. My point has always been the complaints on doctors earning not enough is just a bunch of whiners.

I do not consider myself low income. Based on DOSM's statistics, I am doing alright. If I am doing alright, why are doctors who earn more not grateful?

We are in Malaysia. Don't compare doctor's pay here with doctor's pay in SG or US. The issue here is not doctors are underpaid. The issue of our healthcare is much bigger, and it is structural, just like how much of the problems in our country are. Doctor's pay is just one of the consequences of how poorly our country has been ran for the past 5 decades.



Please read back. I never made any claim to government doctor's salary. I shared screenshot of private doctors. Even with image you can misinterpret. Truly I have no words.

This post has been edited by DoomCognition: Jun 15 2025, 05:37 PM

Again why bring up private option, the one making no most noise regarding being underpaid are government servants.

if you expect everyone to jump then those jobs you post also the pay will go down.

Becoz

1. Instead of just whining and whinging, going private is a viable option with much less friction than say changing fields. Self pity is much less useful.

2. Let market forces take its course.

3. Comparison in private sector is much fairer than based on government pay scale.

18k is actually very low nowadays.

If you’re making less or half of it then I’m so sorry for you

Just because there is a private alternative doesn't mean that the government pay is not underpaid.
Do you feel that as long there is an alternative then we don't care about if the pay is fair?

And your solution doesn't do much to help the national health system. Rather then revamp the system for better well being you ask people to abandon it.

It is household income..... Not individual income
So doctor is T1 is both partner is doctor

It depend. If 18k but work long hours is kind of pathetic
Better work life balance with slightly lower salary

So depend on individual preferences whether got family and kids

You say you are completely ok , but then you yourself complaining about how doctors can earn more than you with less experience.

ikr?

That's so low... senior consultant surgeon alrdy aged late 40s to 50s... nearing retirement only so little celery? Sure or not plus Elaun pakar... plus on call everyday as consultant I heard my friend say
To get 80k Need high volume? Like everyday must see 10 patient at least...

This post has been edited by Knnbuccb: Jun 15 2025, 07:40 PM

where got T20
M40 je owai~

Don't compare to goverment doctor.. This is specialist salary

yesterday i peek at a few people salary slip...

a manager in gsc, is earning 19k per month

Low. Not even after tax