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post Jun 14 2025, 08:45 PM, updated 6 months ago

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Betul ke gaji doktor tu rendah?

Kalo golongan T2 itu gaji rendah, gaji kito yg pertengahan itu mmg hampeh. Gaji doktor bukan T20 tapi T2! Baca betul-betul.

Ntah la, aku yg ada ijazah sarjana pon baru gaji 12k lepas 20+ tahun bekerja, tapi gaji doktor dh mencecah 15k-18k dengan 10 tahun pengalaman je... Pastu berani mengeluh pasal gaji rendah.


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post Jun 14 2025, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 14 2025, 09:03 PM)
if those are T2 thn those vincent tan and multi millionaires are categorized under what?
and try gov doctor's salary
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Please don't keep comparing to Vincent Tan and the billionaires. If you want to compare, please open business. The chart I posted are real Malaysian household numbers from DOSM.
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post Jun 15 2025, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(supsupsui @ Jun 14 2025, 11:51 PM)
18k gross
13k nett salary

cannot really spend like real t10. I have seen many loctors terkena financial trap jugak.
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18k is already T1 in our country. What do you mean by real T10? Household T10 is only RM 20k. If both husband and wife have 18k, household will become T1.
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post Jun 15 2025, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(nelson969 @ Jun 14 2025, 11:54 PM)
>2022 data

why ? , should use 2024
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Bkoz DOSM only release up to 2022. Overall numbers won't differ by too much.
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post Jun 15 2025, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2025, 11:40 AM)
You cannot compare based on experience, it has to be based on skillsets and the difficulty of obtaining that skillsets.
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I am not comparing experience. I am just stating fact that from Jobstreet, doctor's salary easily exceed RM 10k for almost all of the cases that I observe. No other job I see have this high average celery.

And frankly, most doctors are not that great. Just dispense panadol, antihistamines, cough relief, mucus decongestant and all those symptom relief meds. When toddlers / children have high fever that recurs less than 6h, their advice is just to take another dose of paracetamol without regard to the maximum daily dosage or paracetamol.

For more difficult cases involving allergy or skin conditions, most MO are hopeless. Their differential diagnosis abilities completely freeze over, and all they do is to defer it to specialist. And for these ability, they are paid more than 10k. I dunno about you, but the job seems rather cushy to me.
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post Jun 15 2025, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(anakkk @ Jun 15 2025, 03:24 PM)
this one private ma sure like that lo
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Then ma go to private lo. No nid to komplen pathe mathe....
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post Jun 15 2025, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2025, 03:35 PM)
Of course they need to have higher than average grades, have higher than average university length, and as well as housemanship and all, the fees for private education is also higher.
What profession are you comparing with ? Most people in finance and sales can exceed this salary easily.
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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2025, 03:39 PM)
Seriously you need to go out more from your industry.
Nowadays people talk about talent not degree holder .
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Sales and Finance? Just go to Jobstreet and search. The average is definitely below 10k. I can find sales at below 5k easily, but I can't find doctor below 5k.

Who doesn't know salary is dependent on skills and talent? Water is wet, sky is blue. The salary I quoted earlier are for MO. I have not even pulled out salaries of specialists. Spend some time doing research, don't just keep holding onto old narrative.

I am not denying becoming a doctor needs more time to study, but they are also getting a higher salary on average. The issue about underpaid is not unique to doctors, it is a national issue. Minimum wage has been on the rise recently, and that is somewhat a good thing. Do some research and you will understand things better.
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post Jun 15 2025, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(nkte5207 @ Jun 15 2025, 03:41 PM)
dont u smell sour taste in the whole post?
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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2025, 03:48 PM)
I feel his mindset very "government servant" like, so most likely he is working in GLC or as a government servant.

In the government servant culture, years of experience is king, not talent and merit.
So he assumes the culture is the same in private sector.  This is made worst because his exposure to other government servant... he has never been in a situation where fresh graduate can outperform a 15 year old experience government servant.
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Lol, you two got it wrong completely.

Doctors are not alone in being underpaid. Like I said above, it is a national issue. You two look up to doctors as though you worship doctors, so much so it clouds your judgement completely.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry111764103

I responded to the other thread, not going to retype here.

The key point is there is nothing special about being a doctor. Teachers are also noble profession, academia too requires long study period, politicians can save more lives. Think about the issue critically, and you will see that doctors are not underpaid in the context of our country. But if you want to talk about us losing talent to overseas, that is a completely different topic.
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post Jun 15 2025, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Jun 15 2025, 04:00 PM)
nak brag gaji ko 12k ke? owai
no la wife kerja 15 years already she earn 10500 basic salary + allowance
medical officer normal doctor
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Ting ting ting!

Thank you for proving my point! Doctors are not underpaid at all. Dh habis keje aku kat sini.

Bagus gaji wife ko dh melebihi aku, jd bangga la. Moga ko yg T20 ni kurang komplen lepas ni.

See nkte5207 Drian?

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post Jun 15 2025, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2025, 04:12 PM)
Look the bolded show that you are comparing with your ownself and saying how dare a doctor with less experience than me can earn more than me. This shows that you do not understand talent , skillsets, supply demand in determining salary.

Also you don't understand private sector pay and government sector pay.
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It is you who do not understand. Everyone and their mother knows that government servants are paid lesser than private. It happens across the entire workforce. Don't like it? Join private sector. Simple as that.

Whether you belip it or not, I am completely OK with doctors earn more than me. My point has always been the complaints on doctors earning not enough is just a bunch of whiners.

I do not consider myself low income. Based on DOSM's statistics, I am doing alright. If I am doing alright, why are doctors who earn more not grateful?

We are in Malaysia. Don't compare doctor's pay here with doctor's pay in SG or US. The issue here is not doctors are underpaid. The issue of our healthcare is much bigger, and it is structural, just like how much of the problems in our country are. Doctor's pay is just one of the consequences of how poorly our country has been ran for the past 5 decades.



QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 15 2025, 04:15 PM)
see what?

His post shows that your salary range for government doctor has been exaggerated.
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Please read back. I never made any claim to government doctor's salary. I shared screenshot of private doctors. Even with image you can misinterpret. Truly I have no words.

This post has been edited by DoomCognition: Jun 15 2025, 05:37 PM
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post Jun 15 2025, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(naTTan @ Jun 15 2025, 05:48 PM)
Again why bring up private option, the one making no most noise regarding being underpaid are government servants.

if you expect everyone to jump then those jobs you post also the pay will go down.
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1. Instead of just whining and whinging, going private is a viable option with much less friction than say changing fields. Self pity is much less useful.

2. Let market forces take its course.

3. Comparison in private sector is much fairer than based on government pay scale.

 

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