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Drian
post Jun 15 2025, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 14 2025, 08:45 PM)
Betul ke gaji doktor tu rendah?

Kalo golongan T2 itu gaji rendah, gaji kito yg pertengahan itu mmg hampeh. Gaji doktor bukan T20 tapi T2! Baca betul-betul.

Ntah la, aku yg ada ijazah sarjana pon baru gaji 12k lepas 20+ tahun bekerja, tapi gaji doktor dh mencecah 15k-18k dengan 10 tahun pengalaman je... Pastu berani mengeluh pasal gaji rendah.
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You cannot compare based on experience, it has to be based on skillsets and the difficulty of obtaining that skillsets.





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post Jun 15 2025, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 15 2025, 03:22 PM)
I am not comparing experience. I am just stating fact that from Jobstreet, doctor's salary easily exceed RM 10k for almost all of the cases that I observe. No other job I see have this high average celery.

And frankly, most doctors are not that great. Just dispense panadol, antihistamines, cough relief, mucus decongestant and all those symptom relief meds. When toddlers / children have high fever that recurs less than 6h, their advice is just to take another dose of paracetamol without regard to the maximum daily dosage or paracetamol.

For more difficult cases involving allergy or skin conditions, most MO are hopeless. Their differential diagnosis abilities completely freeze over, and all they do is to defer it to specialist. And for these ability, they are paid more than 10k. I dunno about you, but the job seems rather cushy to me.
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Of course they need to have higher than average grades, have higher than average university length, and as well as housemanship and all, the fees for private education is also higher.
What profession are you comparing with ? Most people in finance and sales can exceed this salary easily.
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post Jun 15 2025, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 15 2025, 03:22 PM)
I am not comparing experience. I am just stating fact that from Jobstreet, doctor's salary easily exceed RM 10k for almost all of the cases that I observe. No other job I see have this high average celery.

And frankly, most doctors are not that great. Just dispense panadol, antihistamines, cough relief, mucus decongestant and all those symptom relief meds. When toddlers / children have high fever that recurs less than 6h, their advice is just to take another dose of paracetamol without regard to the maximum daily dosage or paracetamol.

For more difficult cases involving allergy or skin conditions, most MO are hopeless. Their differential diagnosis abilities completely freeze over, and all they do is to defer it to specialist. And for these ability, they are paid more than 10k. I dunno about you, but the job seems rather cushy to me.
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No other job I see have this high average celery.


Seriously you need to go out more from your industry.
Nowadays people talk about talent not degree holder .
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post Jun 15 2025, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(nkte5207 @ Jun 15 2025, 03:41 PM)
dont u smell sour taste in the whole post?
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I feel his mindset very "government servant" like, so most likely he is working in GLC or as a government servant.

In the government servant culture, years of experience is king, not talent and merit.
So he assumes the culture is the same in private sector. This is made worst because his exposure to other government servant... he has never been in a situation where fresh graduate can outperform a 15 year old experience government servant.




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post Jun 15 2025, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 15 2025, 04:01 PM)
Lol, you two got it wrong completely.

Doctors are not alone in being underpaid. Like I said above, it is a national issue. You two look up to doctors as though you worship doctors, so much so it clouds your judgement completely.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...#entry111764103

I responded to the other thread, not going to retype here.

The key point is there is nothing special about being a doctor. Teachers are also noble profession, academia too requires long study period, politicians can save more lives. Think about the issue critically, and you will see that doctors are not underpaid in the context of our country. But if you want to talk about us losing talent to overseas, that is a completely different topic.
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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 14 2025, 08:45 PM)
Betul ke gaji doktor tu rendah?

Kalo golongan T2 itu gaji rendah, gaji kito yg pertengahan itu mmg hampeh. Gaji doktor bukan T20 tapi T2! Baca betul-betul.

Ntah la, aku yg ada ijazah sarjana pon baru gaji 12k lepas 20+ tahun bekerja, tapi gaji doktor dh mencecah 15k-18k dengan 10 tahun pengalaman je... Pastu berani mengeluh pasal gaji rendah.

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Look the bolded show that you are comparing with your ownself and saying how dare a doctor with less experience than me can earn more than me. This shows that you do not understand talent , skillsets, supply demand in determining salary.

Also you don't understand private sector pay and government sector pay.




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post Jun 15 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 15 2025, 04:07 PM)
Ting ting ting!

Thank you for proving my point! Doctors are not underpaid at all. Dh habis keje aku kat sini.

Bagus gaji wife ko dh melebihi aku, jd bangga la. Moga ko yg T20 ni kurang komplen lepas ni.

See nkte5207 Drian?
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see what?

His post shows that your salary range for government doctor has been exaggerated.

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QUOTE(Knnbuccb @ Jun 15 2025, 04:18 PM)
hahaha he even cherry pick those high paying job ads...

why he never pick those which advertise 8k for GP job?
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Because then his narrative and propaganda becomes inaccurate. So must show the higher version. Keep quiet on the lower salary range.






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post Jun 15 2025, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(DoomCognition @ Jun 15 2025, 05:34 PM)
It is you who do not understand. Everyone and their mother knows that government servants are paid lesser than private. It happens across the entire workforce. Don't like it? Join private sector. Simple as that.

Whether you belip it or not, I am completely OK with doctors earn more than me. My point has always been the complaints on doctors earning not enough is just a bunch of whiners.

I do not consider myself low income. Based on DOSM's statistics, I am doing alright. If I am doing alright, why are doctors who earn more not grateful?

We are in Malaysia. Don't compare doctor's pay here with doctor's pay in SG or US. The issue here is not doctors are underpaid. The issue of our healthcare is much bigger, and it is structural, just like how much of the problems in our country are. Doctor's pay is just one of the consequences of how poorly our country has been ran for the past 5 decades.
Please read back. I never made any claim to government doctor's salary. I shared screenshot of private doctors. Even with image you can misinterpret. Truly I have no words.
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You say you are completely ok , but then you yourself complaining about how doctors can earn more than you with less experience.



 

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