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Starbucki
post Jun 13 2025, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 13 2025, 12:47 PM)
Right now all experts also comments based on incomplete info. You can easily find conflicting comments from different sources… tongue.gif
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so ur info is the completest? ok
SUSEfalex
post Jun 13 2025, 01:54 PM

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Boeing again...
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Raddus @ Jun 13 2025, 12:48 PM)
Why top airline like Singapore airlines still use Boeing
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Be prepared Indian government apparatus will try to pin the blame on boeing.
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 13 2025, 01:50 PM)
so ur info is the completest? ok
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Did I made such claim? blush.gif
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(daisuke @ Jun 13 2025, 11:34 AM)
that 1 guy that survive, must have protection of gods......either he did something good in his current life, or previous life
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can forsee more upcoming bollywood jumping out of plane
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(daisuke @ Jun 13 2025, 11:34 AM)
that 1 guy that survive, must have protection of gods......either he did something good in his current life, or previous life
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he opened the emergency exit mid flight. maybe the reason the plane crashed?
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:10 PM

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News video of the plane crash shows the landing gear not retracted soon after lift off = the plane started to gradually descend from about 600ft before crashing onto the ground with the landing gear extended.
....... Why was the landing gear not retracted soon after lift off.? airplane got problem.?

UPDATE: https://nypost.com/2025/06/12/world-news/sh...ore-it-crashed/ - Shocking video reportedly shows power failures inside Air India plane hours before it crashed: ‘Nothing is working’
By Anthony Blair
Published June 12, 2025, 2:55 p.m. ET


https://www.businesstoday.in/india/story/ai...0262-2025-06-13 - Air India crash: Flight AI171 flew with extended gear, retracted flaps; Experts analyse what went wrong
According to early visual analysis, the Dreamliner failed to follow normal flight configuration shortly after liftoff
- Jun 13, 2025 10:08 AM IST


https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=45530 - SEPTEMBER 2013 Harvard Business School CASE COLLECTION
Boeing 787: More Electric Architecture

Abstract:

The "more electric architecture" of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner represented a significant shift in the design of secondary power systems for commercial aircraft, compared to traditional designs that employed a mix of hydraulic, pneumatic, and electrical power. While the design promised improved fuel efficiency and lower operating costs, competitor Airbus was critical of some of the changes Boeing made. The case offers students the opportunity to understand the motivations and key enablers for the shift, and consider whether the approach is more risky than one taken by Airbus[ with its A350XWB .

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post Jun 13 2025, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jun 13 2025, 11:43 AM)
This brother too soon raise shields to defend already

The investigation gonna be interesting
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 13 2025, 01:25 PM)
Hopefullly next of kin gets it
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Should be straight forward case

But victim on the ground mati katak?
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:31 PM

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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner utilizes a "more electric" architecture, meaning it relies heavily on electricity to power various systems instead of traditional pneumatic or hydraulic systems. This shift towards electricity enhances fuel efficiency and reduces maintenance needs, making it a more environmentally friendly and cost-effective aircraft.

Key features of the 787's all-electric system:
- Bleed-less Air System:
The 787 eliminates the need for bleed air from the engines, which is traditionally used to power various systems like engine start and wing de-icing.
- Electric Power Generation and Distribution:
The 787 generates electricity using the engines and distributes it to different systems via more efficient power distribution units.
- Hydraulic and Pneumatic System Replacement:
Many systems previously powered by hydraulics and pneumatics are now powered by electricity.
- Benefits of the More Electric System:
Reduced Weight: Less wiring and the use of more efficient systems lead to a lighter aircraft.
- Improved Fuel Efficiency: The all-electric architecture contributes to the 787's overall fuel efficiency.
- Lower Maintenance Costs: Electric systems are generally easier to maintain than traditional pneumatic or hydraulic systems.

How the 787's more-electric system works: ...


The Air India B787 crashed soon after take-off (from about 600ft) with the landing gear still extended.

AFAP, please avoid flying on the new-fangled B787 "EV".
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post Jun 13 2025, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 13 2025, 11:27 AM)
True. Probably next of kin might benefit like orphan kids or wife of deceased la
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500k for ur family

nah nope


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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 13 2025, 02:00 PM)
Be prepared Indian government apparatus will try to pin the blame on boeing.
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Their media already in overdrive spinning it


iGamer
post Jun 13 2025, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Jun 13 2025, 02:28 PM)
Should be straight forward case

But victim on the ground mati katak?
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I think ground victims compensation should also be included in the airline’s insurance policy to cover 3rd party liability caused by plane crash. Just like your car insurance would cover 3rd party damages if your car crashed into a house… hmm.gif
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post Jun 13 2025, 03:30 PM

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RIP to all the victims.
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post Jun 13 2025, 03:59 PM

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Fyi, .......

https://www.aeroinside.com/aircraft-type/b7...87-8-dreamliner - Air safety incidents for Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner

= nearly every month, got 1 or 2 safety incidents.
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post Jun 13 2025, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 13 2025, 02:31 PM)
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner utilizes a "more electric" architecture, meaning it relies heavily on electricity to power various systems instead of traditional pneumatic or hydraulic systems. This shift towards electricity enhances fuel efficiency and reduces maintenance needs, making it a more environmentally friendly and cost-effective aircraft.

Key features of the 787's all-electric system:
- Bleed-less Air System:
The 787 eliminates the need for bleed air from the engines, which is traditionally used to power various systems like engine start and wing de-icing.
- Electric Power Generation and Distribution:
The 787 generates electricity using the engines and distributes it to different systems via more efficient power distribution units.
- Hydraulic and Pneumatic System Replacement:
Many systems previously powered by hydraulics and pneumatics are now powered by electricity.
- Benefits of the More Electric System:
Reduced Weight: Less wiring and the use of more efficient systems lead to a lighter aircraft.
- Improved Fuel Efficiency: The all-electric architecture contributes to the 787's overall fuel efficiency.
- Lower Maintenance Costs: Electric systems are generally easier to maintain than traditional pneumatic or hydraulic systems.

How the 787's more-electric system works: ...


The Air India B787 crashed soon after take-off (from about 600ft) with the landing gear still extended.

AFAP, please avoid flying on the new-fangled B787 "EV".
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Thanks for the read 👍🏻
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post Jun 13 2025, 06:42 PM

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as far as india airlines are concerned , 90 percent of disasters are management related. my best guess are maintenance issues.

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nobrainer86
post Jun 13 2025, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 13 2025, 02:00 PM)
Be prepared Indian government apparatus will try to pin the blame on boeing.
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To be fair, amdk also do that. Remember when mcas issues first come up they blame pilot?
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post Jun 13 2025, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Jun 13 2025, 11:24 AM)
RM 516, 000

Times 6 [average]
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How much were the payout for MH17 and MH370?
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post Jun 13 2025, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Jun 13 2025, 07:30 PM)
How much were the payout for MH17 and MH370?
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Already in the thread above, someone replied
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