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 Why cannot have GST, instead of the messy SST?

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fongsk
post Jun 11 2025, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(McDullDull @ Jun 11 2025, 08:35 AM)
Coz everything that came from zaman Jibby is bad and wrong.
Nothing can be right...
only zaman Madoni correct...
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post Jun 11 2025, 08:46 AM

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Just reintro GST and rebrand as VAT. Majority wont understand the similarities
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post Jun 11 2025, 08:47 AM

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GST name is bad for election.

SST with GST benefits or dreadfulness still better.
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post Jun 11 2025, 08:48 AM

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ge 16 pas will win. ask them.
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 11 2025, 08:20 AM)
Now for SST, we have at least 5 categories: 0%, 5%, 6%, 8% and 10%

Why can't we just condense it all, and tax EVERYTHING under a singular Goods and Services tax rate? From an implementation, tax compliance and tax policing perspective, isn't this going to be easier?

For consumers also, you pay tax as you consume. Don't have this bullshit that this item exempted, that item exempted etc. That provides so much room for leakages to occur.

Which brain dead idiots run these policies?
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Everyone must use AI to pay tax
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post Jun 11 2025, 08:55 AM

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Just implement GST but call it VAT. Easy

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post Jun 11 2025, 09:00 AM

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agree, i skipped paying gst by paying cash for so many times. With SST, i can't at all. Miss that time sad.gif
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:01 AM

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post Jun 11 2025, 09:06 AM

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post Jun 11 2025, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 11 2025, 08:20 AM)
Now for SST, we have at least 5 categories: 0%, 5%, 6%, 8% and 10%

Why can't we just condense it all, and tax EVERYTHING under a singular Goods and Services tax rate? From an implementation, tax compliance and tax policing perspective, isn't this going to be easier?

For consumers also, you pay tax as you consume. Don't have this bullshit that this item exempted, that item exempted etc. That provides so much room for leakages to occur.

Which brain dead idiots run these policies?
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because you all la vote for no GST, now demand GST pulak

M4A1: this is the government you voted for

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post Jun 11 2025, 09:08 AM

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Doesn't matter, just make sure you're sincere with your wallet then can already..
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I remembered during GST time, every day got ktards posted about ahpek kedai runcit, kedai repair kereta have to close down coz hard to do GST. Hari2 kutuk GST. Now mana pergi all those? Why now many ktards hari2 mau bring back GST?
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:14 AM

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GST is good for nation, everyone is taxable regardless new born baby or 90 yo old folk, and all bangla nepal etc also subject to be taxed as long as they consume. Gov lost a lot of income from many group of people because they are not submitted income tax and also SST is not tax on everything and taxable amount is much lesser than the GST.

Do not ever say Islxm is country should not apply VAT or GST. Saudi 15% VAT, Dubai 5%, Indonesia 11%, Oman 5% etc. Brunei has no tax but they have only 400k population, government has no pressure even if their citizen not paying tax to gov.
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Jun 11 2025, 09:06 AM)
because you all la vote for no GST, now demand GST pulak

M4A1: this is the government you voted for

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Last time kj bring up in parliament

Since gst already in place, why not just lower to 3% instead of abolish and replace with sst

But you know i know


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post Jun 11 2025, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Jun 11 2025, 08:25 AM)
If Anwar goes GST means Najib is right and PH been lying and wrong all along … PH worse decision is to terminate GST.
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QUOTE(takbodoh722 @ Jun 11 2025, 08:25 AM)
Its political.

The downside of SST is well known. GST tax everything then manage exempt list. SST have to manage tax list and also an exempt list. Hence SST scope is always smaller than GST. Issue of double tax also higher. SST administrative cost is higher than GST. That's why countries always move from SST to GST.

Bolehland is the only country in the world moving the other direction. Boleh!
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jun 11 2025, 08:20 AM)
Now for SST, we have at least 5 categories: 0%, 5%, 6%, 8% and 10%

Why can't we just condense it all, and tax EVERYTHING under a singular Goods and Services tax rate? From an implementation, tax compliance and tax policing perspective, isn't this going to be easier?

For consumers also, you pay tax as you consume. Don't have this bullshit that this item exempted, that item exempted etc. That provides so much room for leakages to occur.

Which brain dead idiots run these policies?
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Technically the issue is not categories but how its treated. GST equally has many tax codes with their own rates? I think up to 10? Zero rated i recall has 3 already?

SST is messy for manufacturers because some things you can get exempt some you cannot (input that is) and some you have to charge and some cannot. So its added paperwork they can do without.

GST is easy for manufacturers and other businesses as is pure pass thru. If the issue of refunds is solved it is almost perfect . End of the day consumer pay, manufacturers act as a collecting agent on behalf of govt same as distributors and traders.

But the keyword here is consumer pay. Consumer far exceeds manufactures or biz ppl. They will make noise. So end of the day ppl here might like , ppl elsewhere may not.

But i'm all for it, SST is a pain to manage for manufacturers and i work for one

This post has been edited by 9m2w: Jun 11 2025, 09:23 AM
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:19 AM

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Because gst is launched under that criminal. Goods also has increased price.
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jun 11 2025, 10:15 AM)
Last time kj bring up in parliament

Since gst already in place, why not just lower to 3% instead of abolish and replace with sst

But you know i know


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Until today still got people talking about 3% GST

Anything lower than 6% means the collection is equivalent or maybe even less than SST

The main reason to implement GST is to increase tax collection

If the collection is lower than SST, then what is the point of introducing GST
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ash55 @ Jun 11 2025, 08:32 AM)
GST custom department still got at cyberjaya  brows.gif
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Coz eventually GST will be re-implemented, just a matter of when...

Of coz if Madani wins again, probably won't be so soon...

PN or BN then yes...

QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jun 11 2025, 08:36 AM)
answer is simple.

Legacy.

Because the powers that be if they want to keep GST, then people will not remember current ruling party for their success but they will remember the incumbent for his success.

Just like how DLP is being slowly diminished.

For me, is ok no issue, whatever pass govt does, if 1 or 2 is good, just keep it and continue.

Like DLP and GST. Obvously GST was abused during Bijian time, refunds didn't happen as supposed to, and they delayed that.

Bijian - did good in GST but implemented badly in terms of refunds
Mamakthir - did well in DLP
Moo Moo and useless Puas Takoyaki - did what? Postpone parliament everyday, sampah party.
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Yes I also heard of the problem with refunding...

I think GST just need to really scope those essentials items on 0% and starts small like 3% for soft landing then only adjust accordingly...

But talk much also useless la, just enjoy the fiasco that Madani continue to bring la for now
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post Jun 11 2025, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Jun 11 2025, 09:15 AM)
Last time kj bring up in parliament

Since gst already in place, why not just lower to 3% instead of abolish and replace with sst

But you know i know


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No bro

Then we would have done everything all the hard work for nothing

Has to be 6. 6% minus the refund that should have been given actually is about double SST. Perfect

3% would be the same amount of noise as GST with the same effect as SST.

We got to go more than 3% for it to have a fiscal impact else its also for show

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