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 Security guards have no authority to demand, scan, MyKad - NRD

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BL98
post Jun 11 2025, 10:28 AM

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real criminal will just use a fake IC.

just like those scammers using mule bank account.

and kidnappers using fake/stolen number plate.
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:34 AM

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i just gib expired licence, so far no one that checks want your IC specifically, just modus operandi i think

if ask IC like no tomorrow, then something is up, better investigate
SUSeds2
post Jun 11 2025, 10:36 AM

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pejabat kerajaan also keep ic if you want to enter their ofis.

whats the use if that smart chip? cannot put in reader and save details?
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:40 AM

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aku bagi lesen je

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ThirdSon
post Jun 11 2025, 10:43 AM

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i'll just show my C&U kad
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:44 AM

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My condo the rule are:

If you dont want your visitor to give details at guard, you pre registor them as visitor. then scan QR no question asked.

Inside the app the mandatory field to pre register your visitor is name, number and plate. Anything happened, we tie back to you, as you are in charge of your visitor.

If walk in without QR, they need to give details. Tanak bagi IC/Lesen then spell out your details one by one.
sonypshomer
post Jun 11 2025, 10:45 AM

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Miss Wong JMB said must take IC, so we just follow

- Bhoomit
Nepalese condo security personnel
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:46 AM

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can take name and number
i think ic number also cannot even when write on guest book.
this is the law actually.
jmb shouldnt do weird weird things like that.
security is 1 issue but PDPA is another issue
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:47 AM

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Does clinic has the authority?
Brotherjoe
post Jun 11 2025, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(smallbug @ Jun 11 2025, 08:14 AM)
can't they copy the details then pass it back ?
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Nanti, they photostat front back, clone the chip and apply loan.

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post Jun 11 2025, 10:54 AM

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Carry around your old Lesen memandu. If anyone ask for ID, you can use that. Most wont even check if its expired or not.
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post Jun 11 2025, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Eulm585 @ Jun 11 2025, 08:34 AM)
They ask u dont give, u want enter they dont let. Then u keep ur id and dont enter the area la easy peasy.
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We can always make a report with the NRD. 🙂

MR_alien
post Jun 11 2025, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 11 2025, 10:24 AM)
The option to make a complaint to MoHA is there: https://moha.gov.my/images/maklumat_perkhid...ekeliling_4.pdf

But easier for M'sians to anonymously complain online than actually follow proper escalation channels.
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While people can complain
There is a contradiction which is gov has no jurisdiction on those private condo
Same with road repair and dispute...u report majilis also useless because they don't have jurisdiction there

So end up they reply nothing can be done

Either continue give ID to enter or management remove the visitor gantry to save money
emburrar
post Jun 11 2025, 12:33 PM

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Give photostat ver
wawasan2200
post Jun 11 2025, 12:44 PM

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is bio data fall under tha scope of pdpa?
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post Jun 11 2025, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 11 2025, 08:16 AM)
Not under Regulation 7(1) of the National Registration Regulations 1990, that says only:
NRD officers
police officers
customs officers
military personnel on duty
civil servants authorised by the Director General of National Registration

Housing Management don't fall under the categories that are allowed to hold/check MyKads.
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Good laj, housing management has been acting like King for too long dy
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:01 PM

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Nepal security guards memang bebal.
TShaya
post Jun 11 2025, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 11 2025, 12:05 PM)
While people can complain
There is a contradiction which is gov has no jurisdiction on those private condo
Same with road repair and dispute...u report majilis also useless because they don't have jurisdiction there

So end up they reply nothing can be done

Either continue give ID to enter or management remove the visitor gantry to save money
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Not quite the same as private roads on private land.

Guards are regulated by MoHA. That includes the condo guards. Condo management can't just grab someone off the street to be a guard.

Fastest way to cause problem is to report to MoHA about unlicenced/illegal guards.

They wouldn't reply "nothing can be done"

How fast they act is another question, but generally speaking when one's livelihood is dependent on MoHA licencing, a letter asking them to not take MyKad's tends to keep people straight.
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:09 PM

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corporate building normally request the IC and scan the IC
guard is simply performing the tasks as instructed. Let's proceed to Management Protek
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post Jun 12 2025, 06:33 PM

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The GLC companies that have Polis Bantuan often demand IC if the driving license expired. Nowadays, difficult to print driving license.

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