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andrewhtf
post Jun 11 2025, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 11 2025, 01:15 PM)
Yes


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So? This video doesn't say signalling cannot be done wirelessly. Even if it is needed the whole way, as I have pointed out, invest in building the wireless comm system then.
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post Jun 11 2025, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 11 2025, 02:00 PM)
It is far in remote area unless KTMB has post every 20km perhaps  laugh.gif
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Come on lah, west peninsular train track la woi. Apa lanjiao remote?

Try look in Google maps see. All the way from KL until Padang besar, the tracks will go through towns, going alongside or even crossing major roadways.

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post Jun 11 2025, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 11 2025, 03:16 PM)
Come on lah, west peninsular train track la woi. Apa lanjiao remote?

Try look in Google maps see
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Google map looks like 1mm away lah of course laugh.gif WhenI said remote, it does not necessarily means in the middle of the jungle. Remote from KTMB.

Nowadays, they cut in broad daylight also nobody bother because people think they are contractor doing some work. You think KTMB got people stationed in every town or kampung along the railway? smile.gif
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post Jun 11 2025, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 11 2025, 03:22 PM)
Google map looks like 1mm away lah of course  laugh.gif  WhenI said remote, it does not necessarily means in the middle of the jungle. Remote from KTMB.

Nowadays, they cut in broad daylight also nobody bother because people think they are contractor doing some work. You think KTMB got people stationed in every town or kampung along the railway?  smile.gif
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Hence the need to consider wireless application where possible

Can't cut what's not there to cut

Anyway our msian also mostly tidak apa punya. No death no care.
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post Jun 11 2025, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 11 2025, 03:24 PM)
Hence the need to consider wireless application where possible

Can't cut what's not there to cut

Anyway our msian also mostly tidak apa punya. No death no care.
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People will usually slow down or even stop to watch accident even minor one, but not to help. They should apply to work as ambulance driver laugh.gif
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post Jun 11 2025, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 11 2025, 03:14 PM)
So? This video doesn't say signalling cannot be done wirelessly. Even if it is needed the whole way, as I have pointed out, invest in building the wireless comm system then.
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It was a a response to the statement that "You need the signals the whole railway line?". Yes, the signals need to be along the whole railway line, not "just [to communicate] between the stations"

In theory it can be done wirelessly, but I'm not aware of any rail network that has done so/managed to move to wireless for connectivity for signalling.

Not to mention that the thieves will just target the wireless tower.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...tower-equipment

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...d-as-of-q1-2024

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025...es-nabbed-in-jb

https://www.theborneopost.com/2020/07/12/va...phone-services/

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post Jun 11 2025, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jun 11 2025, 02:20 PM)
The issue is recycling center.
Once u cut all this illegal recycling center out, then no more such shit as they cannot resell already
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Even if they are legal recycling center, how are they going to identify which cable is stolen cable? Since in order to fetch the highest price for A1 copper (close to RM40 / kg) u need to cut then peel away the cable insulation, if not u only can get at best half the price, any sane thieve will peel or burn the insulation. Unless TNB high voltage cable then different, cause for now only they are using aluminum cable. Those large scale recycling center with license, also anyone can walk in and sell, at best they keep your car number for record, they won't take your ic also.
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ECRL going to face similar issue within the first 3 months of operation.
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post Jun 11 2025, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(boonwuilow @ Jun 11 2025, 04:07 PM)
Even if they are legal recycling center, how are they going to identify which cable is stolen cable? Since in order to fetch the highest price for A1 copper (close to RM40 / kg) u need to cut then peel away the cable insulation, if not u only can get at best half the price, any sane thieve will peel or burn the insulation. Unless TNB high voltage cable then different, cause for now only they are using aluminum cable. Those large scale recycling center with license, also anyone can walk in and sell, at best they keep your car number for record, they won't take your ic also.
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Need to do more KYC

Like register the fella who sell, register ic

Source of the recycle material, taken from where

And that database need to be shared among all the recycling company, so that tat fella cannot go here and there recycling.

If a normal fella keep bringing in recycling material like copper in big volume, is questionable already.
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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jun 11 2025, 04:38 PM)
Need to do more KYC

Like register the fella who sell, register ic

Source of the recycle material, taken from where

And that database need to be shared among all the recycling company, so that tat fella cannot go here and there recycling.

If a normal fella keep bringing in recycling material like copper in big volume, is questionable already.
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Like I say, once the cable has been cut and rubber peeled off, it is virtually untraceable. No point in doing so, smart people will find somebody relatable to sell on behalf of them, one of those people are HVAC guys. Then there are also private individuals that exclusively buy "unaccounted" item, these people they deal outside, lorry or car park side to side, common places of these dealing are beside highway toll and R&R.

And u think report to "them" got use, u report, they go and take vid and pic, won't take action until all the cable had been loaded into the thieve's vehicle, because when submitting evidence they just submit maybe 10-15% of total take. The rest... They sell it to their own known associates who runs recycling business.

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Train delay due to cable thefts
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Wednesday, 02 Jul 2025

KTM Bhd deeply regrets the inconvenience and frustration the writer encountered during her June 9 journey on the Electric Train Service (ETS) from Butterworth, Penang to Kuala Lumpur Sentral (“Response defines premium service” published in StarMetro on June 14).

Please accept our sincerest apologies for the disruption and shortcomings in the service.

We understand how distressing it must have been when what should have been a smooth three-and-a-half-hour journey extended into a six-hour ordeal.

The delay on that day was caused by multiple incidents of cable theft across three key points along the northern track, severely impacting both signalling and communication systems.

While incidents like these are beyond our control, we acknowledge the impact they have on travel plans and experience.

The locations of the incidents were Tapah Road-Sungkai (KM250.5) – 200m of cable stolen; Kamunting-Bukit Merah-Bagan Serai (KM87.25) – 110m stolen; and Simpang Ampat-Bukit Mertajam (KM15.5) – 40m affected.

These acts of sabotage had widespread consequences, causing significant delays to both ETS and Komuter services.

We are actively working with the authorities to strengthen trackside security and mitigation efforts are already underway.

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StarMetro article on June 14.

These include installation of special locking mechanisms at 21 manhole locations, closed-circuit television (CCTV) camera surveillance and drone monitoring, and erection of anti-climb fencing along vulnerable stretches.

As soon as an incident was detected, we activated emergency protocols and disseminated updates through official social media channels, SMS alerts and deployed extra staff to assist passengers on-site.

With regard to refreshments during delays, our current policy provides light snacks and water when delays exceed two hours, particularly before departure or at Ipoh Station where our catering base is located.

The nature and location of this delay unfortunately limited our ability to activate this service.

That said, we are relooking at ways to make this offering more consistent across routes.

As for Business Class amenities, we are continuing to enhance the passenger experience.

While the audio video on demand system does not currently support movies or music, passengers may access the Internet for entertainment.

We are also expanding pre-booked meal options to give all passengers – Business and Standard Class – more flexibility and choice when booking online.

We are also aware of the onboard Wi-Fi limitations.

The service operates on a best-effort basis, relying on external telecommunications company coverage, which may vary along the route.

That said, improving digital connectivity remains a long-term goal for KTMB.

Issues related to toilet cleanliness and overflowing waste bins are currently being addressed through a comprehensive review of contractor performance and hygiene maintenance schedules.

In parallel, repair works on escalators and lifts at KL Sentral are underway to improve accessibility and passenger convenience in a timely manner.

Once again, we sincerely apologise for the inconvenience caused and thank the writer for her patience and valuable feedback.

We remain committed to making ETS a safe, comfortable and dependable choice for intercity travel – one that truly reflects the aspirations of a modern, connected Malaysia.

KTM Bhd

Kuala Lumpur

Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/views/2025...to-cable-thefts

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