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 KTMB services disrupted by cable theft yet again

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Skylinestar
post Jun 11 2025, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 11 2025, 11:53 AM)
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. Shit this sarawak disease had spread to Peninsular. This problem was so serious in Sarawak. The authiurut had to warn scrap metal shops against buying from these thiefs
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my grandma house can never have telephone line because it is stolen again and again.
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post Jun 11 2025, 12:52 PM

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who to these thieves sell their ill gotten gains to?
was in the scrap business before
very unclean business
every (other) day face popo come check
yes got stuff that look like it's been salvaged illegally and whenever sus this kinda items, straight away say can't
what they'll do, just hop on to the next person that buys, trust me, many will, throw price, tak beli rugi ma
wonder when will this all come to an end
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jun 11 2025, 11:56 AM)
u know what u talking anot

NI CONFIRM X PERNAH AMIK TRAIN

tok kok je pandai

try la see 4g signal along the way

there are some spot literally no phone network

so how? let the train sendiri control sendiri? laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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You also blardi tok kok apa

You need the signals the whole railway line? No, you just need it for communications between stations, for train tracking and positioning. And all stations are located in populous area where mobile signals are present.

Plus the train line involved here is peninsular west coast route. Our west coast is the most populous area. How many places along the route would be out of signal? There is no way a repeater tower can't cover the blind spot - just need to invest money to build. With the repeated thefts and losses, the value is already more than enough to cover the building of such facility.

QUOTE(machomama @ Jun 11 2025, 12:08 PM)
bandwidth - NOTHING comes close to WIRED (ever!)

for a start, understand this first cukup

rail systems - MISSION CRITICAL, everything needs to be FAIL SAFE, with double triple protection, in fact there's backups for the backup (this is where wireless comes in)

telcos - best effort
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True, BUT with the constant and repeated thefts of cables, is it worth it or not to start investing and building an alternate and modern wireless system? 4G bandwidth nowadays exceed the capabilities of wired broadband 20 years ago, which I believe that KTMB is still utilising as of today. Plus ktmb is not sucking Gbs or Tbs for their signalling Comms anyway.

By wireless it's not just depending fully on mobile network, we still have satellite and age-tested HF radio that could serve as backup. It all falls back to whether organisations involved is willing to or worth to invest the moolah to build and move to a different system
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 11 2025, 12:19 PM)
This is about communication/signalling cable, not power cable.
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Even then, 200m is a lot of cable. Once you cut, the signaling station will know. But KTMB's usually response time, by the time they get to us, the thieves will be long gone.
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 11 2025, 08:47 AM)


Nowadays, recycle scrap centers don't accept cable anymore
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Most recycle scrap centres still accepting due to poor enforcement
TShaya
post Jun 11 2025, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Jun 11 2025, 11:33 AM)
Is electrical transformer supply electric to taman also valuable?

Recently transformer at my area also kene angkut at night causing blackout until next day
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I'm going to say yes, if news articles are any indication: https://www.theborneopost.com/2025/06/10/ma...co-transformer/
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 11 2025, 01:00 PM)
You need the signals the whole railway line? No, you just need it for communications between stations, for train tracking and positioning. And all stations are located in populous area where mobile signals are present.
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ Jun 11 2025, 01:00 PM)
You also blardi tok kok apa

You need the signals the whole railway line? No, you just need it for communications between stations, for train tracking and positioning. And all stations are located in populous area where mobile signals are present.

Plus the train line involved here is peninsular west coast route. Our west coast is the most populous area. How many places along the route would be out of signal? There is no way a repeater tower can't cover the blind spot - just need to invest money to build. With the repeated thefts and losses, the value is already more than enough to cover the building of such facility.
True, BUT with the constant and repeated thefts of cables, is it worth it or not to start investing and building an alternate and modern wireless system? 4G bandwidth nowadays exceed the capabilities of wired broadband 20 years ago, which I believe that KTMB is still utilising as of today. Plus ktmb is not sucking Gbs or Tbs for their signalling Comms anyway.

By wireless it's not just depending fully on mobile network, we still have satellite and age-tested HF radio that could serve as backup. It all falls back to whether organisations involved is willing to or worth to invest the moolah to build and move to a different system
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stole the repeater dulu laugh.gif laugh.gif

eh u think train signal same with your home wifi ka

kasi repeat repeat then jadi la laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 11 2025, 01:15 PM)
Yes


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post Jun 11 2025, 01:18 PM

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Must be pakatan with Anthony Loke owai.
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 11 2025, 12:41 PM)
my grandma house can never have telephone line because it is stolen again and again.
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This is too much wei!
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Boomwick @ Jun 11 2025, 12:38 PM)
Now they upgrade ad..

They cut it, sendiri melt it first, then only sell to recycle shop
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Wah. Meaning educated thieves
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 11 2025, 01:10 PM)
I'm going to say yes, if news articles are any indication: https://www.theborneopost.com/2025/06/10/ma...co-transformer/
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May be sell as besi buruk,

Dont think anyone want to install stolen transformer to curi electric from the national grid or a 33 kv substation laugh.gif
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 11 2025, 12:41 PM)
my grandma house can never have telephone line because it is stolen again and again.
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Jun 11 2025, 01:27 PM)
This is too much wei!
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https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...rvice-for-weeks

https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...folk-in-puchong

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2...ter-cable-theft

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024...ables-in-jelebu

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/true-or-not...ables-in-penang

https://www.theborneopost.com/2012/09/06/le...with-no-choice/

https://www.theborneopost.com/2014/07/31/re...nt-cable-theft/
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post Jun 11 2025, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Jun 11 2025, 01:41 PM)
May be sell as besi buruk,

Dont think anyone want to install stolen  transformer to curi electric from the national grid or a  33 kv substation laugh.gif
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Of course it is for the scrap metal

But now your taman has no electricity

And guess who pays to replace it? The end consumer, via electricity rates.
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post Jun 11 2025, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Jun 11 2025, 01:07 PM)
Even then, 200m is a lot of cable. Once you cut, the signaling station will know. But KTMB's usually response time, by the time they get to us, the thieves will be long gone.
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It is far in remote area unless KTMB has post every 20km perhaps laugh.gif
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iushhh so many cases n they are only the reported ones. This means our authority sleeping on the job.
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post Jun 11 2025, 02:20 PM

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The issue is recycling center.
Once u cut all this illegal recycling center out, then no more such shit as they cannot resell already
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post Jun 11 2025, 02:25 PM

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tembak mati on the spot saja. apa susah?
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