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 Wapcar: BEV infrastructure still has ways to go

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post Jun 9 2025, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(marvinben @ Jun 9 2025, 04:46 PM)
This I really dont understand. Petrol so cheap and they carry a huge genset already in the engine bay.
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PHEV usually no install home charger. If use car like normal petrol car, the hybrid system don't save a lot.
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post Jun 9 2025, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM)
I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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nah.. i lespek owner who charge at 80% especially highway DC station.

and it is called being considerate for others.

if multiple station available, i wont mind.

here, only 1 station with single gun.

got 3 cars waiting...

nevertheless, I learnt my lesson and only go out charging or plan charging at an area with multiple station.

Fortunately the app got live charging, hence I can plan ahead.




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post Jun 9 2025, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:50 PM)
Waste my time talking to bodo like you.

Who pay for your swimming pool and your pak guard? The lights in your parking lot, switch on don't need pay TNB? If add more EV cars charging who pay? So unless TNB install meter at every single charging bay, everyone have to share la.
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bro.....some operator propose zero capex at your condo, they will undergo the charging bills directly from management office to your unit.

which cost none to the residence.

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bodo pulak laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
yhtan
post Jun 9 2025, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 9 2025, 04:20 PM)
The condo i renting already have multiple ev charging bay facility.

1 other condo i own also already install EV charger facility.

Just another 1 apartment I own those conservative  jmb machem dont want to install. Those ghetto maderfaker…
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how much is the charging rate?

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 04:26 PM)
not until too far yet haven't had the need to
maybe planning one soon
and maybe gonna try car camping soon also maybe around bukit tinggi
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sleep inside the car?

QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 9 2025, 04:31 PM)
Haiya, it was because you asked why they die die want to go to JPO. It's because the organisers asked them to. And I presume because JPO has 30 charging bays, which in theory they all could charge 10 cars at once (note: they can't) compared to Tangkak which IIRC only has 8 bays.
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mau test the car limit mah, macam itu soyacincau did from round trip for emas prime to melaka
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post Jun 9 2025, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(a_dot_el @ Jun 9 2025, 03:51 PM)
Been using EV to balik kampung few times already. The only issues faced is lack of telco coverage to activate the charger. Fuk maxshit.
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Need telco coverage to activate the charger! doh.gif
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post Jun 9 2025, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:39 PM)
Simple, logical calculation.

KL/Selangor people would be earliest adopters of EV compared to other states, purely because of financial.

Most KL/Sgor population live in high rise. Take a normal condo, one block maybe 400 units. 400 unit, 2 car per family, 800 cars.

Presuming just 10% change to EV that's 80 EV charge bays that is needed to be installed, metered to each unit. And that's only one block, not whole condo yet. Sure, you can charge with normal 3 pin outlet, but will you? And still have the question of TNB bill, because whole condo not paying the maintenance fee for you to charge your personal EV.
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QUOTE(Gargamel_gibson @ Jun 9 2025, 04:50 PM)
Waste my time talking to bodo like you.

Who pay for your swimming pool and your pak guard? The lights in your parking lot, switch on don't need pay TNB? If add more EV cars charging who pay? So unless TNB install meter at every single charging bay, everyone have to share la.
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unlikely they will follow China style, every resident parking lot has 7/11/22kw AC charger, most likely install common charger with pay as u use, zero capex for the JMB/MC to bear. Profit after opex/capex then split into 70/30, 30% goes to JMB/MC.

QUOTE(Randomization @ Jun 9 2025, 04:40 PM)
Obviously they're not intentionally find fault but just highlighting challenges and issues that may still need to be worked on.

It's also educational for people to know what they're getting into.

Unlike those hardsell posts from certain site.
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Actually sudah improve a lot, u just need more EV cars on the road to push the CPO installing more charger, after all it is profit oriented business and government is not forking single cent for it.

QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 04:41 PM)
dunno license side or what approval side very slow or got what issue

some sites look completed since last year but until now not yet operational

malaysian efficiency
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East coast like Terengganu is the worst, literally handful of charger there only.


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post Jun 9 2025, 05:11 PM

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That's why.. dont trust soya*ancau..
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post Jun 9 2025, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 05:03 PM)
East coast like Terengganu is the worst, literally handful of charger there only.
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Terengganu alot already

Mydin gong badak
Pusar sains & kreativiti terengganu
Bmw millineum welt
Proton indahsari otomobil
Go to U pantai batu buruk
Go to U dataran shahbandar
Upcoming chargesini mayang mall.



Meanwhile perlis only have 1

Starbucks kangar jaya

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ukiya21
post Jun 9 2025, 05:24 PM

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Maybe pushing for AWAS point to point is a trick for BEV adoption. U speed fast2. Then take 30mins rest to charge back. But if that area charger rosak... then u gg lor. Have to wait until the point2point more than the speed limit then only drive pass it.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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how much is the cheapest EV cost in indon compared to cheapest ICE.
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post Jun 9 2025, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(bottomfrag @ Jun 9 2025, 04:49 PM)
Actually why not? Their cars are capable of plugging in and it's "good for the environment" when they run on EV mode as much as they can. Just because they have an engine then they are not allowed to charge at public chargers?
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I mean if the chargers are empty thats ok. But die die need charge till 100% when there's a dongfeng/byd/emat7 waiting isn't very civil. PHEV charging speed is slow also.
(40kW J.ko j7 phev vs 88kW emas7 spec kosong)
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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post Jun 9 2025, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(angelgemini @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
all about petrol price,
if Ron95 at RM5 per little, u will see full force of BEV jamming the road.
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Thailand same story. China same story. Fill full tank in China need 3-4 hundred rmb. That's the main reason why they buy bev
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post Jun 9 2025, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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Their dinosaur juice much much pricier than us
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post Jun 9 2025, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM)
I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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This is where graphed charging rate should apply

At Electron Tapah, the charging fee is by duration one and it’s ridiculously high (above RM3/kWh) if you want to charge above 80-90%.
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post Jun 9 2025, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 05:57 PM)
how much is the charging rate?
sleep inside the car?
mau test the car limit mah, macam itu soyacincau did from round trip for emas prime to melaka
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Rm1 per kwh. With annual membership, discount become 75 or 80 cent iinm.

Chargesini no membership. Time Charge n Go does offer membership rate.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)


3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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Ini marehsia, banyak selfish, low class owners. Some just leave their cars to charge and go shop more than 3 hours before coming back (at malls). Guess most of them are apartment owners.


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post Jun 9 2025, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(marvinben @ Jun 9 2025, 05:36 PM)
I mean if the chargers are empty thats ok. But die die need charge till 100% when there's a dongfeng/byd/emat7 waiting isn't very civil. PHEV charging speed is slow also.
(40kW J.ko j7 phev vs 88kW emas7 spec kosong)
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It might not be considerate or nice, but it's their right.

And then there are people calling to stop EV charge at 80%. That's being selfish as well. For all we know, that person might not have time to charge regularly or may be preparing for a long road trip and wants to have max charge available. Also LFP needs full charge every now and then to calibrate.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Jun 9 2025, 07:05 PM)
Their dinosaur juice much much pricier than us
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Our country pro ICE. Every year subsidy petrol and diesel rm30bil+ enjoy by all merehsians.

EV just enjoy free tax waiver. If put tax woso max gomen revenue can get probably rm5-7bil annually.

So obviously bigger tongkat ICE will win ler
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QUOTE(pgsiemkia @ Jun 9 2025, 06:09 PM)
Ini marehsia, banyak selfish, low class owners. Some just leave their cars to charge and go shop more than 3 hours before coming back (at malls). Guess most of them are apartment owners.
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Ppl not get used to the just 80% charge policy yet since they’ve been on ICE full tank all these while before.

Also not helping is the insufficiency of charging ports + far distance between stations along the major intercity highway.

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