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post Jun 9 2025, 03:36 PM, updated 7 months ago

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Recently, yours truly went on a 10-car electric-only (BEV) trip down south to Johor to check out the capabilities of a recently launched model. We are not going to mention the name of the brand hosting the convoy drive, because the outcome is the same regardless of whether we are driving ten Proton e.Mas 7s, BYD Sealions or Tesla Model Ys.

Instead, we would like to focus on the current state of the BEV infrastructure in Malaysia. While the number of charging stations has been ramping up across the country, there is still the question of whether our infrastructure can handle during peak hours. What you see on curated social media content is not always true, and this is our raw experience, told as it is


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During the final day of the media drive, the organisers told us to take a pit stop at Johor Premium Outlets (JPO) to recharge our cars. The plan was to have them charged up to 90%, which should provide us enough range to head back to Kuala Lumpur.

Under WLTP tests, the tested car has a maximum range of 480 km. Our journey from JPO to KL would take 309 km, so a 90% state of charge (SoC) would be more than sufficient.

When we reached JPO, most of the cars had about 20% or fewer SoC and charging up to 90% via a DC charger would take an average of around 30 to 40 minutes. The reason for charging at JPO was that there were plenty of charging bays – 30 DC charge points – available and 1 MW worth of capacity, which is sufficient to support charging our ten cars and other owners.

In theory, these figures sound very confident to local BEV lobbyists who harp on the virtues and beliefs of BEVs being the sure-fire future of personal mobility.

But some of us faced issues with the chargers, which either could not initially accept the payment or were having connectivity issues. The charger my car was assigned to was a 640-kW DC fast charger meant for commercial electric buses, operated by DC Handal.

It took about 10 minutes to get the car charging, which was capped at around 160 kW, but this was after a few attempts to initiate the charge, possibly due to a problem with the pay terminal and the intense heat – it was 34°C that afternoon
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Then, the entire JPO suffered a blackout, and the roasting heat turned to a massive downpour. At this point, less than half of the ten cars in our convoy have been charged up to 90%. Most of us had between 50-60% of SoC, and the organiser suggested charging their cars at another charging station at one of the highway rest stops.

Eventually, power was restored to the premium outlet after about 10-15 minutes. The organiser told a few of us that have not left to remain at the charging stations. We managed to get our car charged up to 90% at JPO and made our way back to the capital with 14% charge remaining.


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Through a stroke of bad luck, the blackout was later revealed not to have been caused by us charging, but a scheduled supply cut to facilitate construction nearby. Nobody cares about the cause of a blackout at a petrol station because drivers will simply ignore it and go to another location further down the road, but in this case, it’s enough to delay the progress of 10 cars.

Large-scale interstate driving events like these always involve overworked event crews who will have to take the cars to charge, and wait, usually through the night, especially if the destination is far from major city centres. Take this recent trip down south. There are three charging stations nearby, and even if they support DC charging, it would take time to recharge them to a feasible range.

10 cars multiplied by 20 minutes of charging, which does not include the time to move each of them around and get connected with the chargers, and you’re looking at a long night.

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post Jun 9 2025, 03:48 PM

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Buy a be if you own a landed property and commute to work or drive around the same city.

If you plan to balik Kampung. Use petrol.

Bev aint for everyone.
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 9 2025, 03:48 PM)
Buy a be if you own a landed property and commute to work or drive around the same city.

If you plan to balik Kampung. Use petrol.

Bev aint for everyone.
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Been using EV to balik kampung few times already. The only issues faced is lack of telco coverage to activate the charger. Fuk maxshit.
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post Jun 9 2025, 03:52 PM

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Yup, EV infrastrucuture in Malaysia still has long way to go.

Reliability of the chargers is the key point. You do not want waste time driving to the charging stations and see the charging points are down.
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post Jun 9 2025, 03:53 PM

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daily commute around town no need go back kampung anywhere with just occasional interstate roadtrips is fine

kalau often interstate then memang sendiri cari pasal lor unless the adventurous kind, but those ppl also won't complain la mostly know what they are getting into.
tapi those who no buy make more noise than those that do kek
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post Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM

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But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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If all CPOs can change to credit/debit card payment without involving apps, it will be much better charging experience.
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post Jun 9 2025, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jun 9 2025, 03:56 PM)
If all CPOs can change to credit/debit card payment without involving apps, it will be much better charging experience.
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ya like DC Handal good
they are decking out WCE now, once WCE (finally) completes i think will be quite pleasant experience to go up north, maybe even better than PLUS (other than being 2 lane only kek)
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post Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM

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so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)

3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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Clearly from the article , this is not an infra problem but the design of the entire ecosystem down to technology. Small problem compounds the unpleasant experience.
App la, service providers la, users la.
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post Jun 9 2025, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:55 PM)
But indonesia with even worse ev infra also sells way more EV than Malaysia.

Dont say their population high, their total number of new cars is the same as Malaysia, only the EV registration is much higher than us
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This is interesting. nod.gif
Could you point out the source so I can read it please.
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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 04:00 PM)
ya like DC Handal good
they are decking out WCE now, once WCE (finally) completes i think will be quite pleasant experience to go up north, maybe even better than PLUS (other than being 2 lane only kek)
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I always charge at DC Handal at Bamboo Hills right after coming out from Jalan Duta toll. The best spot to charge as can makan also.


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post Jun 9 2025, 04:13 PM

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If Malusial can make Solar as cheap as CCP Land, then more ppl will buy EV.

Then we have more Petrol to export.

But malusial wants to profit in everything, Solar also 3X more expansive than CCP land.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
so far i encounter issue while driving EV

1. inconsiderate owner, although public charger but die2 charge up to 100% despite got see pipul queue to charge (eg: Gambang WB Gentari)

2. PHEV owner use public charger (come on, you already have an engine, why need to use outside charger, thought the engine can help with the charging)

3. App problem (can't activate, need few minute to refresh before can re-activate the charger)

4. Sometime i met another EV owner who switch Bay (Eg: Park at Bay 1 but using Bay 2 charger).

so far best experience...

a. Some mall offer free charging
b. sometime got free/discounted charging rate.
c. EV can park closest to entrance (if charging). Some offer dedicate Green parking zone which is also close to the entrance.
d. Some CPO offer promotion (eg: if charging, can get discount on beverage similar to TESLA).

For me is not a hassle but an experience, i dont really complain much.
Happy with my purchase.
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I'm sorry but I need to call you out on your entitlement. Who ever gets the charger first has his or her rights to charge all the way to 100% and this applies for hybrid drivers too.
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QUOTE(Justin.Loong @ Jun 9 2025, 04:12 PM)
This is interesting.  nod.gif
Could you point out the source so I can read it please.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=111630302

Follow my thread i usually update there
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post Jun 9 2025, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(DogeGamingPRO @ Jun 9 2025, 03:53 PM)
daily commute around town no need go back kampung anywhere with just occasional interstate roadtrips is fine

kalau often interstate then memang sendiri cari pasal lor unless the adventurous kind, but those ppl also won't complain la mostly know what they are getting into.
tapi those who no buy make more noise than those that do kek
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U pernah took your emas for interstate travel?

I don't know what he is complaining lah, that one group of media die die mau charge at JPO JB, padahal Tangkak pitstop can stop and charge, go makan beef noodle then continue journey.

All i can say EV infrastructure has improve tremendously compare to year 2023/2024.

This post has been edited by yhtan: Jun 9 2025, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 9 2025, 04:15 PM)
U pernah took your emas for interstate travel?

I don't know what he is complaining lah, that one group of media die die mau charge at JPO JB, padahal Tangkak pitstop can stop and charge, go makan beef noodle then continue journey.

All i can say EV infrastructure has improve tremendously compare to year 2023/2024.
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Because it's the organisers that asked them to do so
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the organisers told us to take a pit stop at Johor Premium Outlets (JPO)


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