got it, included x90+, 100 ultra, 200 ultra

this is china announcement

Now x300 pro have better performing soc and a comparable camera performance with x200 ultra. The only advantage x200 ultra have over the pro are the ultra wide camera.

With origin os global, really no reason to go for x200 ultra anymore. Rom optimized for global market, availability of official aftersales support plus less headache of delay notification problem.

The only question is how much their selling price will be in Malaysia. I17 started the price war, it will be interesting if vivo decided to join the war and offer a better price to Malaysia consumer

This post has been edited by wolf1991: Oct 16 2025, 01:44 PM

i expect cut throat price as usual...

Then it's good for consumer. The pressure from i17 is no joke. With price in range of 3.6 to to 3.8 (with bank promo like HSBC premier, uob, S platform 30k coin, other bank promo etc etc).

Due to low price, good spec and ecosystem, a lot of android user jumped ship to i17 base model. It's real oos with waiting time from 2 to 4 weeks onward. Android seller better think twice when setting the price for their upcoming launch to remain competitive.

I think you misunderstood his post. Cut throat price meaning very high price and they don't usually run discounts even for old models. Iphone is losing their edge that's why regular 17 was born. Vivo don't really need to compete with price also, ppl can opt for china sets or local sets if need global rom I don't see why they need to run sales like iphone.

Hmm my understanding of cut throat price is low price. I checked online and seem like it's the same as my understanding but anyway it's fine. Iphone didn't run sales, it's those bank and platform hoping consumer to buy using their card or platform and hence come out with some promo. If you look at it correctly iphone no discount. The only times discount and promo out is new generation is around the corner.

Vivo wise it did run sales especially few month after launch. Undeniable among android, vivo are going in a correct direction of emphasizing on camera and go their own way and not just blindly copy iphone like what happen with mi17 which was shameless. Yes ppl can opt for global or cn set. I think cn set mostly for it lower price. I personally think it's better go for global set for less hassle although it do come with slightly higher price.

My bad. The term cut throat pricing is undercutting like u said. but I think what he really meant was literally cut throat like chop carrot pricing as usual from vivo. I mean for iphone to upgrade base model to 256gb for free is a form of discount already. Their iphone air is not doing very well either having cut throat sales in many regions.

Nvm, it's fine. I17 indeed was a form of discount as compared to i16. This changes itself is a threat to android flagship device and they should seriously consider how to price their upcoming device.

The air wise I agreed with you and think it's not doing well. It's not worth to get the air with poorer camera and battery yet more expensive. The only pros is it thickness. The 1 doing well is i17 base model.

Just wait and see how they going to price for the product. If not mistaken it's going to officially launch in Malaysia soon in November. As a consumer I hope they priced it lower. Anyway they might test water with high price first, if not really doing well then throw discount.

ah so... sorry for confusion...

i meant high price... in chinese context, get slaughtered...

vivo Malaysia prices historically always very high... paying celebrities endorsements to push sales...

Vivo never need to worry about iphone 17 base model price , go look at iphone 17 thread in lowyat forum , how many of them actually buy iphone 17? The ip17 and air thread totally is dead compared to Pro/Max thread.

Vivo x300 pro and iphone 17 totally targeted different categories of people.

Iphone 17 created for those iOS user that come from mini or iphone e series , and lot of the time iphone double digit user will try to go for PRO model for their upgrade. Even if user who holding flagship android phone also will try to go for PRO line instead of base line.

Look at the sales of iphone , no matter how worth of price for iphone 17 base , stil Pro and Pro max have the top sales over the world included in the USA itself (now i use fact data to prove u , not "Empty Blow water" ya)





About eco-system , in malaysia , whatsapp is the best eco-system i would say , anything just "later send me whatsapp" , try stand in front of the Mid-Valley entrance , try survey and ask 100 of ppl that holding iphone , and question them 2 question

"Do u own a macbook or mac pc?"
"Do ur working space or company using windows or mac?"

I dare say that 95% of them will answer NO , apple eco-system is overrated in malaysia , people who think that they own "iphone + airpod + iwatch" = owh i own the eco-system is.....quite funny i would say , yes idevice can be work seamless , but if u using same brand of android device , u also can work seamless too in 2025. If your working space all using windows , then how u gonna airdrop your document to the windows PC? Stil need using something like Cloud or web.whatsapp right?

For me la , best eco-system suppose to work cross-platform like Google Service , LocalSend , KDE Connect instead of need to be locked into just ONE system.


And not to mention , iphone17 is smaller screen , small battery , 2 camera only , not every android flagship user really able to accept this kind of spec i would say , if u talking about if android user need a secondary ios phone , then might be grab iphone17 but totally doest really effect android flagship phone.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 17 2025, 11:52 PM

Cut throat or not

This price is for china set china rom, mark up 10-15% already.nothing to shout about also. As tourist go china can get 9% tax refund back, if got friends in china can qualify for 15% national subsidy. Go Shenzhen those alternative channels can get 10-20% cheaper than official launch price before those tax refund and subsidies.

Hardly to compared like this , because china phone is made in china , for sure they have cheaper price. Same like EV car , the Proton X50 was actually Geely Binyue which sold only around 78k RMB after convert RM47k , but in malaysia x50 starting price Rm85k.

I take it as an example , musang king durian Grade A selling price in malaysia 1kg RM45-55 , but when reach to china , how much the price for 1biji of musang king? So can't really hope to get like china price because they have to pay google licenses , tax , sirim approver and transportation.

That the reason why people always fly to oversea to get cheaper price like LV & Chanel bag.

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Oct 18 2025, 09:19 AM

Yea cannot just compare directly due to difference in transportation, development cost, market volume etc etc.

Point is if China is cheaper and you're okay with China ROM, can fly there and buy. Like me

If really mou buy global unit can , need wait double digit sales , and it can be cheaper by alot , just dont buy at the full price because not worth.

more and more ppl rather buy heavily discounted last gen flagship.


different exposure value, cannot compare like that:


This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Oct 18 2025, 06:46 PM

why not?... point n shoot... 'best' picture wins...

technically u are not wrong la...

i noticed there are two type of tuning among brands.

some auto mode deploy slow shutter speed to keep the iso low.

while some keep safe handheld shutter speed for snapshot success rate but higher iso sacrifice noise performance.


Tear down:


This post has been edited by BOTAK_WAI: Oct 19 2025, 09:29 AM

for me either directly go china ROM for cheaper price , or if i really want grab global rom , definitely will wait double digit sales , i always feel that the retail price always at the higher side , especially u already familiar with china ROM price

my x200s have a snapshot icon , if i dont want those low shutter speed , i can directly hit the snapshot icon and it will bump up shutter speed to freeze the subject , for sure will sacrifice some image quality.