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 "Learn to Code" Backfires Spectacularly

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SUSEfalex
post Jun 8 2025, 04:56 PM

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Just start an AI project with 70 programmers behind it pretending as an AI..
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post Jun 8 2025, 05:00 PM

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People who say that AI will replace coder do they actually work in the IT industry?Lol.
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post Jun 8 2025, 05:14 PM

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diffyhelman2
post Jun 8 2025, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 8 2025, 02:48 PM)
Is flying drones a 3D job?
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bro drone pilot is white collar work and perfect for descendants of imperial examination scholars like you la. still young enough

this is 3D job


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post Jun 8 2025, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(hoonanoo @ Jun 8 2025, 04:51 PM)
I heard in CCP, once a programmer reaches 35yo, its end of the road for his or her career.

they all macam football player after 35yo early retirement
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Yes, even cna post this on YouTube. Msia also become the same. Once you are 40, gg. Youth unemployment high in prc many overqualified cannot find job until all so ride share and come msia work on tourist visa

When msia open for them, local market sure gg. Cannot compete.
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QUOTE(Viper236 @ Jun 8 2025, 05:00 PM)
People who say that AI will replace coder do they actually work in the IT industry?Lol.
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/ktards are multi discipline Nobel laureate.
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post Jun 8 2025, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(poooky @ Jun 8 2025, 05:40 PM)
Yes, even cna post this on YouTube. Msia also become the same. Once you are 40, gg. Youth unemployment high in prc many overqualified cannot find job until all so ride share and come msia work on tourist visa

When msia open for them, local market sure gg. Cannot compete.
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meanwhile iN Msia, I know got people 50yo still working as SAP consultant
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post Jun 8 2025, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 8 2025, 03:41 PM)
3d navigation got way more degree of freedom to consider compared to 2d.
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U never watch thousands of drones synchronised performance? You use one thousand human also cannot perform that.
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post Jun 8 2025, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 8 2025, 06:08 PM)
U never watch thousands of drones synchronised performance? You use one thousand human also cannot perform that.
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All is programmed. Not autonomous
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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 8 2025, 06:26 PM)
All is programmed. Not autonomous
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The point is computer controlled drones can simultaneously perform what human can never do. For AI to take over drone control would be super easy to implement.
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post Jun 8 2025, 07:11 PM

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Not just CS, most grads in whatever courses all oversupply, unless you're in specialization like cybersecurity right now.

Gen-alpha better go to TVET route and start plumbing or aircond business. More money
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 8 2025, 06:40 PM)
The point is computer controlled drones can simultaneously perform what human can never do. For AI to take over drone control would be super easy to implement.
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No it wouldn’t. It can’t even handle an autonomous f1 race.



Following a program is trivial for a computer. Autonomous operations is not.

It can follow preprogrammed routes and patterns in a fixed region of the sky with no obstacles but as soon as it’s thrown into real world air traffic it doesn’t know what to do.

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QUOTE(GHBZDK @ Jun 8 2025, 01:33 PM)
hurry up with the dooming already. its high time someone put ai into a 2b bodyframe/doll. i want to fk robots  bangwall.gif
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U want to fk with piston rings?
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QUOTE(brkli @ Jun 8 2025, 01:55 PM)
so you mean other field unemployment rate actually dropped or maintain and not increasing?? can list down field, I will need for future reference if want to change field, dun want waste time choosing another field with increasing unemployment rate..
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https://www.newsweek.com/computer-science-p...t-rates-2076514
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On the other hand, majors like nutrition sciences, construction services and civil engineering had some of the lowest unemployment rates, hovering between 1 percent to as low as 0.4 percent.

Unemployment among recent graduates more broadly is increasing, with the number of Gen Z households receiving unemployment climbing by 32 percent year over year in February. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate for recent college graduates went up to 5.8 percent in March from 4.6 percent last year, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.


QUOTE(poooky @ Jun 8 2025, 01:11 PM)
Supply is too high. Not just murica. Now competing with whole world. Even India and prcs all study cs. Low hanging fruit code monkey jobs all taken. Left is the ones that need specialized skill. Not easy to get also. Just study alone is no longer enough, need real world experience, but noone wants to hire for it. Catch 22
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"However, an abundance of those who major in a field doesn't necessarily create more talent, and as many companies have developed more complex needs, they often want employees more skilled with a proven track record of success. As a result, some new graduates may find it more difficult than expected to obtain a job, especially in our current environment where some employers are scaling back."

Companies are cutting engineering budgets by 40 percent while CS enrollment hits record highs.

For many computer science roles, you'll have tens of thousands of graduates chasing the job, which now demands years of experience, an impressive GitHub and the ability to work for low pay, Driscoll said.

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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jun 8 2025, 07:54 PM)
No it wouldn’t. It can’t even handle an autonomous f1 race.



Following a program is trivial for a computer. Autonomous operations is not.

It can follow preprogrammed routes and patterns in a fixed region of the sky with no obstacles but as soon as it’s thrown into real world air traffic it doesn’t know what to do.
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Just becoz some team failed to do it and u already concluded AI cannot do it. AI will advance in unprecedented pace and will not only lead by one nation.
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Jun 8 2025, 08:42 PM)
Just becoz some team failed to do it and u already concluded AI cannot do it. AI will advance in unprecedented pace and will not only lead by one nation.
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Mana level 4 fsd autonomous car? Elon said coming for ten years d. Current fsd by Tesla and bei yan Diu mata tuhan, all require you to put hands on steering wheel and be prepared to take over at anytime.

Bear in mind for cars they already have ten years worth of millions of cars driving data for AI to train on. And still can’t confident to release pure autonomous driving. Not China not UsA not Europe.

Drone operating in urban air traffic has way way less training data and the search space is far higher and more complex than flat 2d cars.
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QUOTE(Doomsday @ Jun 8 2025, 08:37 PM)
U want to fk with piston rings?
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its ogre for malaysian chinese male already.
whatever also jadi lah.
clang clang clang clang...
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post Jun 8 2025, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(JohnL77 @ Jun 8 2025, 12:27 PM)
Sky-High Unemployment[/url]
"Every kid with a laptop thinks they're the next Zuckerberg."

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If you compete on global scale, you're up against the millions of programmers that come from China, India, Indonesia and elsewhere.

How can everyone be the next Zuckerberg?

Malaysia really? Our employment situation is far less competitive than theirs. Just look at their job fairs.



60 peon entry level police jobs over 90k applications? Next Zuckerberg or Elon Musk dream on la.Reality is poor will remain poor for entire lives.



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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 8 2025, 09:01 PM)
If you compete on global scale, you're up against the millions of programmers that come from China, India, Indonesia and elsewhere.

How can everyone be the next Zuckerberg?

Malaysia really? Our employment situation is far less competitive than theirs. Just look at their job fairs.

60 peon entry level police jobs over 90k applications? Next Zuckerberg or Elon Musk dream on la.Reality is poor will remain poor for entire lives.
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mehresia's competitiveness is on a downward spiral

if we continue to fight among ourselves, soon there will be nothing left to fight over for anymore

many still seem to think 90% is a grape is larger than 60% of a watermelon
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QUOTE(petpenyubobo @ Jun 8 2025, 09:01 PM)
If you compete on global scale, you're up against the millions of programmers that come from China, India, Indonesia and elsewhere.

How can everyone be the next Zuckerberg?

Malaysia really? Our employment situation is far less competitive than theirs. Just look at their job fairs.

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60 peon entry level police jobs over 90k applications? Next Zuckerberg or Elon Musk dream on la.Reality is poor will remain poor for entire lives.
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Even South African studio has made a videogame. Malaysia bila?

Relooted is a high-tech heist game about reclaiming African artifacts from Western collections, which are said to hold '90% of sub-Saharan African cultural heritage'

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