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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 03:32 PM)
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You didn't read my above reply, did you.?

Doctor-prescribed fentanyl, from India ≠ illegal fentanyl from Mexico smuggled into USA.

Few isolated deaths due to abuse/misuse of the former ≠ thousands of deaths due to abuse/misuse of the latter.
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No one is talking about few isolated deaths outside of America....why even bring this up? The bloody topic is AMERICA'S FENTANYL crisis and who is to blame. A unique problem only America faces, of which everyone but themselves are to blame.

You know US has also always blamed India (other than China, Mexico and Canada) for their Opioid problems? Its just because India is not challenging America economically NOW, that they are not pushing blame on India. But get too close to Russia, or start getting economically independent of the US dollar hegemony and you'll suddenly see India together with China getting all the blame. Maybe that's why India keep sabotaging the BRICKS from being dollar-independent.

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QUOTE(sunami @ Jun 9 2025, 02:24 PM)
sendiri bodo nak hisap sala orenlain...
so those white sausage lickers bodo sala their parents gene...
topkek sohai
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Fyi, ie most drug addicts are young victims who were gullible/ignorant, .......

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heroin-u...on-1092858.html - Heroin UK: Dealers trick young users into addiction - 10 May 1999
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QUOTE(judas @ Jun 8 2025, 02:00 PM)
CIA, high and drugs, berpisah tiada

Opiates - blame afghanistan, Taliban
Cocaine - blame mexico, south america
Fentanyl - blame China

Apalagi mau blame?
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sure sala others one...
sendiri wanna hisap....tak salah...kek
white sausage lickers logic paling terbodo...

according to their logic...
robbers no wrong one..sala gold shop selling gold for them to rob..
kek

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QUOTE(sunami @ Jun 9 2025, 04:02 PM)
sure sala others one...
sendiri wanna hisap....tak salah...kek
white sausage lickers logic paling terbodo...

according to their logic...
robbers no wrong one..sala gold shop selling gold for them to rob..
kek
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In History, long long time ago...

West force open China to "open trade" for Opium
West never blame themselves (British) for shipping in Opium to China?

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QUOTE(judas @ Jun 9 2025, 05:10 PM)
In History, long long time ago...

West force open China to "open trade" for Opium
West never blame themselves (British) for shipping in Opium to China?

Karma
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karma? is ok...
janji white sausage licker /k minions will continue lick their masta...
few ekors here licking non stop..
lmao
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 03:57 PM)
No one is talking about few isolated deaths outside of America....why even bring this up? The bloody topic is AMERICA'S FENTANYL crisis and who is to blame. A unique problem only America faces, of which everyone but themselves are to blame.

You know US has also always blamed India (other than China, Mexico and Canada) for their Opioid problems? Its just because India is not challenging America economically NOW, that they are not pushing blame on India. But get too close to Russia, or start getting economically independent of the US dollar hegemony and you'll suddenly see India together with China getting all the blame. Maybe that's why India keep sabotaging the BRICKS from being dollar-independent.

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A more detailed news report, .......
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/28/india/in...report-intl-hnk - India among top suppliers of illicit fentanyl precursors, US intelligence report says - 28 March 2025
.... “China remains the primary source country for illicit fentanyl precursor chemicals and pill pressing equipment, followed by India.” ...

On March 17, India’s Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) in the western state of Gujarat said it had arrested two people linked to Surat-based pharmaceutical companies for allegedly exporting illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico and Guatemala, according to the Press Trust of India. CNN has reached out to the ATS.

Days later, the US Department of Justice indicted three top executives from a Hyderabad-based pharmaceutical company for allegedly importing ingredients used to make illicit fentanyl. ...

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India has arrested people who exported illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico = India no kena US Fentanyl Tariffs.

CCP China no arrests = kena 10% US Fentanyl Tariffs.

See the difference between India and CCP China.?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 05:01 PM)
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Fyi, ie most drug addicts are young victims who were gullible/ignorant, .......

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heroin-u...on-1092858.html - Heroin UK: Dealers trick young users into addiction - 10 May 1999
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Why America face drugs problem since the 80s?

Back in the 80s, there were war on drugs but their drugs problem becoming worse and worse. Why?

You can trace it to the late 60s and early 70s when the hippies culture was prominent

A lot of hippies started families and no longer follow hippies lifestyle but their lax views on drugs were never extinguished

That is why weed smoking is a norm for the American youngsters since the 80s

From weed smoking, a lot of them experimented with more hardcore drugs and thats why drugs such as Cocaine, Ecstasy, Heroin and Methamphetamine become so popular.

Fentanyl is a potent synthetic opioid drug approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for use as an analgesic (pain relief) and anesthetic. China is a major producer and exporter of the chemicals needed to make fentanyl, and a lot of countries import them.

However, it is only America that is facing a fentanyl crisis. Strange isn't it?

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U know why USA keep saying Fentanyl Precursors?

Because 4-Piperidone is used for making whole lots of pharmaceuticals and medicines such as:-

Diphenylpyraline (Allergen) - antihistamine for allergy
Loperamide (Imodium) - diarrhea treatment

And many more. But these 2 already many people using as medicine.
Stupid to think it is only used for making Fentanyl

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 03:49 PM)
Wanna make analogy also, don't la use lies or misinformation about USA, ie  the lie that US citizens are buying guns made-in-Mexico with imported CCP China steel and smuggled into USA by Americans.
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Imagine, a CCP-lover equating legally doctor-prescribed opioids, eg as painkillers, legally manufactured by BIG Pharma, with illegal opioids smuggled into USA by evil Mexican drug cartels, eg illegal fentanyl manufactured by the Mexican drug cartels from precursors easily imported from greedy CCP China.
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Explaining things to you can vomit blood. Always go off on a tangent, and bringing in unrelated points that others then need to waste time educating you on.

Analogies no need need to be based on facts la. It is to give you extreme examples of more difficult to understand concepts, since you seem to be having difficulty accepting that the RAW MATERIAL PROVIDER (ESP IF THE RAW MATERIAL HAS DUAL USE) IS NOT TO BE BLAMED IF THE USER MISUSES THE END PRODUCT FOR SELF-HARM!! GEDDIT??

Example of analogies:
As blind as a bat; Fact = Bats are not blind, got eyes one.
As busy as a bee; Fact = Only about 20% of the bees in a beehive account for 50% of the foraging. The other 80% shake ballz only.

Here's another analogy for you. You go out drinking, then crash your car and kill another person. If you're Chinese, then of course you will blame yourself, and police will rightly jail your ass. Your ma and pa also will blame you (cos you not anak saya baek orangnya)

But since you are American, you'll blame Carlsberg Brewery Malaysia Berhad, and whatever pub you went drinking in that night. Maybe you'd even blame the country for not making alcohol illegal, since its a fact that Alcohol "significantly impairs driving ability, affecting vision, reaction time, coordination, and judgment, making driving unsafe." And especially since you're American, you'd definitely have to find a way to blame the CCP in this. Just say its the CCP Chinese in Malaysia bringing in their GANBEI culture, and opening pubs and bars all over KL, that caused you to lose self-control. It is clear that the only person innocent in all this is the drunkard behind the wheel.

Also your so-called "legally-prescribed opioids legally manufactured by BIG PHARMA" has been found liable for causing the opioid crisis in America.

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Legally prescribed opioids started this whole mess in America. So don't just go blaming the illegal manufacturers thousands of miles away....

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/opioids

About 75% of people in the U.S. who became addicted to street opioids such as heroin during the 2000s report that they started out taking prescription opioid drugs. This trend may be related to availability: In most parts of the United States, fentanyl is cheaper and easier to obtain than prescription opioids.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41701718

American doctors prescribe - a lot
Unlike most European countries, the US does not have universal healthcare paid for by taxes.

Instead, Americans must get their own insurance - usually via an employer or the government.

"Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill," says Professor Judith Feinberg from the West Virginia University School of Medicine.
"Say you have a patient that's 45 years old. They have lower back pain, you examine them, they have a muscle spasm.
"Really the best thing is physical therapy, but no one will pay for that. So doctors get very ready to pull out the prescription pad.
"Even if the insurance covers physical therapy, you probably need prior authorisation (from the insurer) - which is a lot of time and paperwork."
The CDC says opioid prescriptions have fallen by 18% from their peak in 2010. But the total is still three times higher than in 1999.

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 04:14 PM)
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A more detailed news report, .......
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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/28/india/in...report-intl-hnk - India among top suppliers of illicit fentanyl precursors, US intelligence report says - 28 March 2025
.... “China remains the primary source country for illicit fentanyl precursor chemicals and pill pressing equipment, followed by India.” ...

On March 17, India’s Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) in the western state of Gujarat said it had arrested two people linked to Surat-based pharmaceutical companies for allegedly exporting illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico and Guatemala, according to the Press Trust of India. CNN has reached out to the ATS.

Days later, the US Department of Justice indicted three top executives from a Hyderabad-based pharmaceutical company for allegedly importing ingredients used to make illicit fentanyl. ...

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India has arrested people who exported illicit fentanyl precursors to Mexico = India no kena US Fentanyl Tariffs.

CCP China no arrests = kena 10% US Fentanyl Tariffs.

See the difference between India and CCP China.?
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China is the 1st country to put permanent controls on the entire class of Fentanyl Precursors, even thought this problem is not faced by ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT AMERICA.
Wanna see how much China has bent backward to accommodate the useless Americans in fixing their own issues?
Own self got problem also don't want to fix it permanently.

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And who says no arrests in China?
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India should be careful la, the American's already has it in its sights. Now while focused on suppressing China, India still can be a useful idiot for the Americans.
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 04:38 PM)
Explaining things to you can vomit blood. Always go off on a tangent, and bringing in unrelated points that others then need to waste time educating you on.

Analogies no need need to be based on facts la. It is to give you extreme examples of more difficult to understand concepts, since you seem to be having difficulty accepting that the RAW MATERIAL PROVIDER (ESP IF THE RAW MATERIAL HAS DUAL USE) IS NOT TO BE BLAMED IF THE USER MISUSES THE END PRODUCT FOR SELF-HARM!! GEDDIT??

Example of analogies:
As blind as a bat; Fact = Bats are not blind, got eyes one.
As busy as a bee; Fact = Only about 20% of the bees in a beehive account for 50% of the foraging. The other 80% shake ballz only.

Here's another analogy for you. You go out drinking, then crash your car and kill another person. If you're Chinese, then of course you will blame yourself, and police will rightly jail your ass. Your ma and pa also will blame you (cos you not anak saya baek orangnya)

But since you are American, you'll blame Carlsberg Brewery Malaysia Berhad, and whatever pub you went drinking in that night. Maybe you'd even blame the country for not making alcohol illegal, since its a fact that Alcohol "significantly impairs driving ability, affecting vision, reaction time, coordination, and judgment, making driving unsafe." And especially since you're American, you'd definitely have to find a way to blame the CCP in this. Just say its the CCP Chinese in Malaysia bringing in their GANBEI culture, and opening pubs and bars all over KL, that caused you to lose self-control. It is clear that the only person innocent in all this is the drunkard behind the wheel.
Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview:

Analogies based on lies (or non-facts) can be called false analogies , weak analogies, faulty analogies, or questionable analogies. They can also be referred to as bad analogies or false metaphors. The key characteristic is that they draw a comparison based on a lie or misleading information, making the analogy itself invalid.


https://study.com/learn/lesson/false-analog...k-examples.html - False Analogy Fallacy | Definition & Examples
.... False Analogy Fallacy

A fallacy is an error in one's reasoning that can lead to faulty or invalid arguments and claims. Fallacies are often used in writing or speeches in attempts to persuade an audience. These types of fallacies are called rhetorical fallacies, and they can be used to manipulate or deceive people into believing false narratives or claims. Rhetorical fallacies are often used by media outlets, political figures, and various types of activist groups. ...

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QUOTE((pornoman)
Also your so-called "legally-prescribed opioids legally manufactured by BIG PHARMA" has been found liable for causing the opioid crisis in America.

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Legally prescribed opioids started this whole mess in America. So don't just go blaming the illegal manufacturers thousands of miles away....
Again, spreading lies or misinformation, .......

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/no...y-opioid-crisis - Purdue Pharma pleads guilty to criminal charges related to US opioid crisis
OxyContin maker admits to actions aimed at boosting opioid prescriptions, including conspiring to defraud (government) officials and offering illegal kickbacks (to doctors, etc)

Reuters
Tue 24 Nov 2020

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QUOTE((pornoman)
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/opioids

About 75% of people in the U.S. who became addicted to street opioids such as heroin during the 2000s report that they started out taking prescription opioid drugs. This trend may be related to availability: In most parts of the United States, fentanyl is cheaper and easier to obtain than prescription opioids.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41701718

American doctors prescribe - a lot
Unlike most European countries, the US does not have universal healthcare paid for by taxes.

Instead, Americans must get their own insurance - usually via an employer or the government.

"Most insurance, especially for poor people, won't pay for anything but a pill," says Professor Judith Feinberg from the West Virginia University School of Medicine.
"Say you have a patient that's 45 years old. They have lower back pain, you examine them, they have a muscle spasm.
"Really the best thing is physical therapy, but no one will pay for that. So doctors get very ready to pull out the prescription pad.
"Even if the insurance covers physical therapy, you probably need prior authorisation (from the insurer) - which is a lot of time and paperwork."
The CDC says opioid prescriptions have fallen by 18% from their peak in 2010. But the total is still three times higher than in 1999.
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Fyi, .......

https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/continuing-c...deaths-new-york - Continuing Crisis: Drug Overdose Deaths in New York - November 2022
.... At the core of this crisis is a shocking rise in opioid-related deaths, which grew by almost 300 percent between 2010 and 2020 to comprise 85 percent of all drug overdose deaths in New York in 2020. In recent years, the increase has been spurred by a rise in fentanyl, a cheap and potent synthetic opioid that traffickers are mixing with other illegal drugs to drive addiction and increase their profits; users are often unaware they are taking fentanyl until it is too late. This dangerous combination of factors is leading to devastating results. ...
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Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication.
....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc.

Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.?
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Jun 9 2025, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)

And who says no arrests in China?
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https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/chinese-c...l-manufacturing

Note that the above criminal investigation and indictments were carried out by the US government and publicized, not by the CCP govt. Only then or after-the-fact, did CCP China took action against the criminals indicted by USA, likely for CCP China to "save face".

India carried out such criminal investigation and arrests on its own in India. Has CCP China done such criminal investigation and arrests/indictments on its own in China.?

So, apples and oranges.
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QUOTE(pornoman2128 @ Jun 9 2025, 05:43 PM)
China is the 1st country to put permanent controls on the entire class of Fentanyl Precursors, even thought this problem is not faced by ANY OTHER COUNTRY EXCEPT AMERICA.
Wanna see how much China has bent backward to accommodate the useless Americans in fixing their own issues?
Own self got problem also don't want to fix it permanently.

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Like I said before, the more evil communist CCP China is a well known liar ("cakap tak serupa bikin" or do not walk the talk or cannot be trusted or believed in), scammer, cheater, copycat, thief, hacker, greedy profiteer, indirect drug trafficker, oppressor, etc.
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Fyi, .......

Gemini AI Overview:

Analogies based on lies (or non-facts) can be called false analogies , weak analogies, faulty analogies, or questionable analogies. They can also be referred to as bad analogies or false metaphors. The key characteristic is that they draw a comparison based on a lie or misleading information, making the analogy itself invalid. 


https://study.com/learn/lesson/false-analog...k-examples.html - False Analogy Fallacy | Definition & Examples
.... False Analogy Fallacy

A fallacy is an error in one's reasoning that can lead to faulty or invalid arguments and claims. Fallacies are often used in writing or speeches in attempts to persuade an audience. These types of fallacies are called rhetorical fallacies, and they can be used to manipulate or deceive people into believing false narratives or claims. Rhetorical fallacies are often used by media outlets, political figures, and various types of activist groups. ...

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Fyi, .......

https://www.osc.ny.gov/reports/continuing-c...deaths-new-york - Continuing Crisis: Drug Overdose Deaths in New York - November 2022
.... At the core of this crisis is a shocking rise in opioid-related deaths, which grew by almost 300 percent between 2010 and 2020 to comprise 85 percent of all drug overdose deaths in New York in 2020. In recent years, the increase has been spurred by a rise in fentanyl, a cheap and potent synthetic opioid that traffickers are mixing with other illegal drugs to drive addiction and increase their profits; users are often unaware they are taking fentanyl until it is too late. This dangerous combination of factors is leading to devastating results. ...
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Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed  insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication.
....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc.

Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.?
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Try using your god given brain to think, no need to keep depending fully on AI to make all your arguments.
You didn't dispute that analogies do not need to be based on facts. Already give u 2 examples. But since AI is your God, go on basing your life on everything it tells you.
CAN BE =/= IS.

The Devil is in the details:
You expect Purdue to plead guilty to the non-existent charge of "causing a drug addiction epidemic" is it?
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jun 9 2025, 05:56 PM)
Note that a hospital patient or mental patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed psychotropic medication, like opioids or methamphetamine, is not very different from a Type-2 diabetic who is "addicted" to doctor-prescribed  insulin or metformin, in order to survive or be near-normal physically, ... or a heart patient "addicted" to doctor-prescribed blood thinners and/or hypertension medication.
....... Similarly for drug addicts, alcoholics, chain-smokers, coffee/tea/chocolate "addicts, etc.
Are you against the "addictive" treatment by the above doctors prescribing such pharmaceutical drugs.?
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This here is a classic Strawman argument from Sir lurkingaround, known far and wide in/k for deploying such countermeasures whenever he has run out of counterpoints, or AI has let him down.
Misrepresent: Likened the addiction of the most powerful drug known to mankind that has directly caused 500k deaths in America, to the addiction of coffee, sugar and tea!!! (No one gets "addicted to insulin la, its a "need", not a "want")
Attacks the Misrepresentation: You against ppl drinking coffee and tea ar??
Makes the Original Argument appear weaker: pornoman2128 the joker wants to ban Starbucks and Chagee!!

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