When Malaysia big hoo haa about Data Center; in reality lack of skilled talents.

so if youre major in HVAC or Electrical Engineering. you win.

Thought some say only need security guards for data centers, no real talent needed.

security like military complex?

owai..

Now even thailand become the more interesting place to go for DC.

Those high value job in operating data centre can be managed remotely, so these workers WFH in their respective countries

well. true. so why Malaysia so hyped about DC and cannot deliver even things like Power, and Water?

Who say M'sia cannot supply power and water? There's enough supply, gomen can easily get IPP to generate more electricity, albeit not green.

The problem that I see is the execution is slow, so construction maybe delayed, those kind of problem...

you got watch video or not?
it's distribution.

investor come in, expect data center only.
local authorities are expected to give TNB substation for free.

Which for big development, is unspoken requirement for you like resurfacing the roads around your site.
However, this usually means 33kV or 11kV substations only. Those are typically close to end user location.
Your problem is with 110kV substations which usually servers entire industrial parks.

Building those take time. C&S is 1 year + if you quick, but you also gotta wait 2 years for the transformers to be built and commissioned.

Land is cheap where these facilities don't exist.
Where these facilities exist, land is not cheap.

This is partially why there has been such a huge push for Solar for industrial players lately to shed TNB load in order for TNB to supply to data center instead.

Water infra also an issue for the same reason. Problem is clean water for cooling tower HVAC systems used by datacenters.

Funny.

Did nothing and was condemned as Do Nothing.

Did something and was said "big hoo haa but lacking...."

He mentions in the video he saw less than 2 dozen people at max working on site.

Rare to see someone from the industry willing to spill the beans.

all these DC wants is someone who can work 24hours.

can go inside DC within 30minutes of ticket. just to push the reset or power button.

execution slow then how? bring katana?

more beans please corgi.

more beans please.

normal.

piling rig only need 2 guys.
1 operator, 1 welder.


RC construction also typically 12 man team only to built 60m x 20m plot of RC slab.
Then, steel structure different group of 12 man team with crane and boomlift.

Your team can be a whole village or can be lean and mean.
Depends on how you plan only.

Also, if concrete baru keras, opening formwork etc just 2 sohai with crowbar only.
plus, have to understand, he is not at site daily. perhaps got invite to visit during off-peak time.

So the issue is taking too long to build becos of red tape?

Build condo salah. Build mall salah. build DC salah.

Keep for forest and greenery, get kecam why no development.

SeSohai amdk demand this demand that..wait till they go to thailand sort out their messy electrical cable hanging every where..

This post has been edited by wcnew: Jun 6 2025, 03:49 PM

that is forest and greenery? KEK.

that is a shamble scammer agri-mono industry that make you die faster, get diabetes and also stroke.

they are rewiring. owai. thailand is ascending.

which DC you are in smarty corgi?

Live longer for what? You just gonna bitch about epf no money la, cannot retire la.

You post something like this and expect quality replies? No wonder Malaysia feels hopeless sometimes...

About the utility readiness —if you were the utility provider, ask yourself: Would you invest in expensive infrastructure first, and then hope the customers come later?

We’re talking about large-scale infrastructure that involves massive CAPEX — not a few thousand ringgit, but millions or even billions.
No utility provider will commit that kind of spending unless they can recover it.
If there are no confirmed users, no ability to bill, and a real risk of underutilization — who wants to answer to the board for spending without guaranteed demand?

It’s just logical business decision-making.

When a data center comes in, their power requirements are huge. We're not talking about small-scale installations with a single or double chamber that take a few months to commission. A typical data center may need anywhere from 5 MW to 20 MW — which means they need a PMU.

That PMU needs its own building, proper design, and must be constructed and handed over to TNB.
Only after TNB officially takes over can they begin their part — which could take another 18 to 24 months for external 33kV cabling and energization.


Reference taken from the TNB's Handbook

Even if the DC building construction is fast-tracked, the overall project still hits a bottleneck when it comes to power readiness from the utility provider like TNB.

The same issue applies to SAJ when it comes to water supply — if the current water tower can’t meet the demand, a new one needs to be built, and that takes time.

So the ang moh companies face this problem here and act surprised — as if they won’t face similar issues elsewhere (Thailand, Philippine or Australia )?
Unless there’s a comprehensive master plan that has been in place for years specifically to cater for data center needs, I doubt any town planner or state government would be crazy or foolish enough to build such large infrastructure without a guaranteed anchor client.

I live to see you suffer.

So why butthurt over DC construction given you only care about me?

Insaf la, go back to praying crypto go to moon.

hopeless is good. Many businesses in Malaysia are indeed hopeless topkek one.

as for the bolted part, thats malaysia isnt it

build first than wait customer then when no customer come, cry father mather king.

Project forest city bailout

i dont care about you but I enjoy seeing you suffer miserable.

Ah, then prepare to live longer.

I'm happy I'm the only thing you have to live for ❤️

Are you kidding? Cheap water and power is what we are famous for lah.

i live for my life. Not for you.

I live to see BTC to the moon.

But still many people steal electricity, errand payment and waste water. Cheap doesnt mean good system.

Guys, it's not just 33kV. As far as I know, these large DC projects currently require 275kV. Inside the TNB portal for consultation, it already shows that TNB has established a dedicated team to handle this type of project.

Normally, for 275kV—or even 132kV, which I've seen before—the fastest completion time is around 2 to 3 years. Keep in mind, this involves pylon erection and land acquisition, which can be a huge mess, especially when private land is involved.

The building and internal infrastructure are quite straightforward; it's the external infrastructure that's going to be the real challenge.

That’s a different issue but we attract investment in power hungry and resource intensive industries. Without a huge pool of skilled labour it’s all we can do.

He talking about himself, B40 types curi letrik and the way he post questions and poor knowledge of his own country.

If just planners where just more aware like playing city skylines

come to SEA sebab nak cheap land, cheap electric and cheap water but cant wait for infra to be built?

the video said lack of skilled labour.

She, not He. You nail it. owai.

Seem you have good knowledge yet still lose to thailand.

You mean lost to Thailand about He being She?

Maybe owai. You may like

The concern is clean power, we need more solar power.
Also we might not have enough water, weather like this if continue for few more months some area might be facing water issue.

in your heart saja

Yeah, I used to do that. From office in KL goto TPM or Cjaya, charge mileage RM1.50 per km return, back to customer. Change tape/hdd, connect cable, check fan/aircon. Nowadays everything lights out/remote but if router reset, still need to go check if UPS down.

my heart not your DC

well ive been saying its big hoo ha but lacking since the very first article of alibaba kl data center and get destroyed by /k supporters many years back.
the few dozen jobs inside also probably will give to the children and grandchildren of the property developer by word of mouth
the servers also priced the same like usa oregon etc. give fking discount as malaysian citizen la.

you are my data

what can rempit do at data center?
sell nasi lemak motor viral at the main gate?

Not sure why the hatred toward datacenters.

They are like any other foreign investment in this country.

you didnt ask.

I dont have hatred or issue with DC, but the truth about Malaysia Lands is shamble to be noted. Especially the rigged palm oil scam.



This post has been edited by Syie9^_^: Jun 8 2025, 05:15 PM

For this singular job, the security guard with clearance access to that button will do lor. 24/7 got guard on site ma

Myawadi or KK incoming.

No one dare to reply your post but I appreciate your reply. One 275 kV PMU can theoretically power about 2.5 to 3 cities the size of Petaling Jaya at peak demand. The, 275kV demand is very huge !

For a 275 kV to be completed within 2 to 3 years is already a miracle. The land acquisition is not an easy matter when it involves private land — in case the private owner contests the compensation of the land acquisition. The public thinks it is a wet market transaction.

What’s saddening is the ang moh highlighting the problem (without exploring the cause of the problem), but the readers just believe it without any intention to understand the depth of the issues faced in the distribution.

~

Practical Example (Malaysia)
PMU Serdang East (275 kV AIS):
Took approximately 30 months from ground-breaking to energization.

PMU Olak Lempit Upgrade (275/500 kV):
Estimated project duration was 36 months due to complexity and transformer upgrades

~

The public who criticize these delays are like people asking why a baby can’t be born faster by getting nine women pregnant at the same time.

If the ang moh wants to compare Malaysia with other countries — Thailand, the Philippines, or Australia — and if those countries truly can build a 275 kV substation faster, then yes, TNB should reflect on why others can deliver the "baby" sooner.

But until we see that happening consistently elsewhere, the public needs to educate themselves. You can’t rush something that naturally takes time. Just like making a baby — it takes nine months, no matter how impatient you are. In this case - 275kV PMU need minimum time around 30-36 months ( if the existing site do not have any 275KV PMU)

Thanks for providing the example of the time taken for those PMUs.

This is just my personal opinion, and I understand it may offend certain firms, especially those who design oversized infrastructure because their fees are tied to a percentage of the total construction cost. In my view, not all data centers necessarily require a 275 kV connection — in many cases, 132 kV might be sufficient.

That said, the final decision ultimately lies with the operators and depends heavily on the project’s budget.

On another note, for projects involving the government, the approval and development process can be significantly faster. I won’t name specific projects, but there are cases where 132 kV sites were delivered on a fast-track basis. It often comes down to whether the government is willing to support the project. Once the Land Acquisition Act is invoked for TNB (Tenaga Nasional Berhad), the project typically proceeds smoothly, with compensation matters handled afterward.

Under Malaysian Acts, TNB can also leverage certain legal provisions ("Akta") to their advantage.

Again, I’m just sharing some rough insights — no offense intended.

if u listen carefully - u will know this guy bla bla bla... complain for the sake of complain

eg.. 725...he says the developer is Jcrop which also own KFC, and dont understand why no KFC there? lmao!

The jokes about phone being wrap in a bag which block the camera... why cannot tahan security and IP? u go all the electronics they do the same

8.30 - saying about modularize and being done hastly. Well- modular and skided equipment- are cheaper, faster and better QC compare to site/stick build.

well.... i stop watching when i saw his half effort handsketch which is more like a joke,

even to put 275kV in; the area better be industrialised first...
Else it be a joke for something out of nowhere and the next thing you know, cable cut by XXXX.. but sure someone got fried.

yeah, I agree with 132kV. Will suffice to power up in stage. Overbuild also need to revise overtime.

its youtube . Anyone can create contents this days and "opinionated" well like analyse talk about how much the share company worth like

24 > 99 > 200 MW.

No worries about causing offense — no one is getting offended, at least not me. This is a public forum, after all. We're here to share information, not to offend anyone or make enemies.

I appreciate your responses.

I believe nowadays the 275kV CLS project completion lead time is much faster. (maybe 1 1/2 year) https://themalaysianreserve.com/2024/07/24/...tract-in-johor/

This post has been edited by oranjeguy2021: Jun 11 2025, 09:59 AM

last year complain no google cloud, no aws, no microsoft, no zuck local dc.
now complain power , water and lack of skilled talents.

Malaysia complain, Thailand ascending.